Flowamasta's Grow No.3 indica clone-harvest grow Journal! 1 PLANT!!! 600wattHPS

flowamasta

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dude i haven t seen buds like that in multiple plants ops i wish i would have seen this earilier b4 i wasted my seeds lol well not wasted them but now that i see the potential off of one plant thats i dont even have a word for it kinda reminds me of another guy that used to grow on here i forget his name but he used to grow some trees like that ! always kept ec of 1.3 all the way through
Thanx heaps Macrael! over here the laws are tough so one plant is considered personal i believe so anymore is asking for jail time if caught. but i do grow a bit of outdoor aswell......gritting teeth..

as for ec level, i only have a ph meter, i will invest in one when i find the right price and quality, but i follow the cyco chart pretty much identically. and in the last 3 weeks in flower you can bump up to 2.0 ec no worries, with swell and silica combined with bloom a+b plus additives it would be up there easy as, i rarely see nute burn, i see it before it happens, tiny sweat bubbles on tips of the leaves, so i may just dump 5 litres out of my res, and replace it with cold water, and check ph. easy. with 100% perlite things happen straight away, and grow very very fast
 

flowamasta

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Photo0611.jpg this is at about week 7, wasn't long after this i puller her, who says big buds can't be high quality!! this honestly was nearly the best smoke i can remember smoking, fingers crossed she ends up like this :) she's nice and bushy for sure
 

macrael

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with a plant t hat size i can understand the ec being around 2.0. my veg nutes are around 750 ppm which is around 1.5 ec it s a bit high but some people would say its too low. me oo i will be following botanicares chart but at about 2/3rds of what they say just trying to keep costs down unless i see something wrong with the babies
 

flowamasta

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man, i swear its the XL i gave it, you know you can give a detailed description of what you think is different about her if you like ;)

I love to hear what people really think! i actually thought she'd be a bit taller by now, but she seems to be nearly twice as bushy as to what I'm used to, very curious as to what I'm going to do actually, i've never had this much underneath growth, and i stated at the start i wasn't going to trim off any leaves, but when i did that pic with the lighter next to the trunk, i could barely get my hand in there, i may do some lollypopping, may not, i'll sleep on it another night, the more leaves, the more photosphynthesis! and my new globe is penetrating rather nicely, obviously.

Thanx again! :leaf:
 

lordjin

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man, i swear its the XL i gave it, you know you can give a detailed description of what you think is different about her if you like ;)

I love to hear what people really think! i actually thought she'd be a bit taller by now, but she seems to be nearly twice as bushy as to what I'm used to, very curious as to what I'm going to do actually, i've never had this much underneath growth, and i stated at the start i wasn't going to trim off any leaves, but when i did that pic with the lighter next to the trunk, i could barely get my hand in there, i may do some lollypopping, may not, i'll sleep on it another night, the more leaves, the more photosphynthesis! and my new globe is penetrating rather nicely, obviously.

Thanx again! :leaf:
That's short and Indica. Your lower growth looks strong, so I don't think you need to worry about height all that much... But we will see what the plant feels like doing come 12/12, huh?
 

jigfresh

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I don't think you can go wrong lollipopping a little bit. Whatever you want to call it, but that thing is so bushy the stuff in the center bottom ain't gonna get much love from the lights. and I don't think that middle bit is gonna contribute mush to the outer new growth.
 

flowamasta

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That's short and Indica. Your lower growth looks strong, so I don't think you need to worry about height all that much... But we will see what the plant feels like doing come 12/12, huh?
yeah, cheers, i hope to get another 6 inches growth this week then the net goes in, i really need those sides to come up, they havent because she is soo bushy everywhere. we'll see ey, and yeah when i hit 12/12 they'll do another stretch, i always forget that. thinking that, the net may go in earlier, see if i can spread the middle out a bit

I don't think you can go wrong lollipopping a little bit. Whatever you want to call it, but that thing is so bushy the stuff in the center bottom ain't gonna get much love from the lights. and I don't think that middle bit is gonna contribute mush to the outer new growth.
yeah i think i'll just take some miniature very bottom branches, it's all soo healthy though!!

Yo flowa, your lady looks more sativa dom than Indica, imo
we'll see Billcollector99, same cut as always, i think the leaves look indica, buds are always big and heavy, outdoor or indoor.

thanx guys, good to see some extra input! this girls gonna freak us all out, even me. i gasp when i open the tent, she keeps growing sideways!

edit.. and that trunk shot...YEP THATS BRIGHT RED PEOPLE!
 

flowamasta

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No offense but these leaves here, and the calyx size and formation on your outdoor suggest sativa influence ;)

ok, thanx man, good info, i'm still doubting it as the high is incredibly strong, 1 bong stuff all the time, i never have more than 2, and i usually fall asleep if i do, doesnt a strong high real head stone usually represent indica? i'm still learning, here, but seeing as my outdoor and indoor produced entirely different buds, from the same cuts, it just seems odd, my outdoor produced long thin leaves, and here, my indoor has shorter broad leaves, remember, exact same cuts.

I think the sun, and weather play a game here, both have produced an even comparable stone, outdoor stronger this time round, i can clearly see the same bud structure in the growth, just when i grew this indoor the first time (this pic) it was the strongest ive smoked.

here is a leaf comparison, its hard to say, its in between, maybe a nice cross strain perhaps?
also, indicas are a faster flowering strain, and i go no longer than 7 weeks

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Miyagi

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Hey flowie, Sativa is usually the head, indis are body stone. Indicas don't get me bent (pretty much at all) but a good satty still rips my head off. Not taking sides, just chucking in my two bob. Also I would say its a 50/50 hybrid, maybe slightly sat dom and 420 mate I always find the buds airier and the trichs drippier when I bang my girls outdoor, same strains jammed up under lights indoors are chunky as f*ck and not quite as frosty. Just my exp.
 

flowamasta

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Hey flowie, Sativa is usually the head, indis are body stone. Indicas don't get me bent (pretty much at all) but a good satty still rips my head off. Not taking sides, just chucking in my two bob. Also I would say its a 50/50 hybrid, maybe slightly sat dom and 420 mate I always find the buds airier and the trichs drippier when I bang my girls outdoor, same strains jammed up under lights indoors are chunky as f*ck and not quite as frosty. Just my exp.
thankyou my master miyagi sir ;) yeah by the looks of my leaves i rekon she's a hybrid, now that i think of it, it really does have a heavy headstone, aswell as being a total couchlock!

i just put my first net in, see how low i can keep her, she's trainable....just!

update...day 27.. think i was a day off, keep forgetting i put her in on the 12th Jan., counting 13th as day 1, so yeah it will be 4 weeks veg tomorrow.

before the net.jpgclose up new growth.jpgnice and healthy.jpginstalled the net.jpg
 

billcollector99

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Aside from the bit of heat stress she looks real good.


Did you know phenotype varies by environment, which is why your outdoor looks so diff than your indoor ;)

Same cut, diff growing conditions and you got two plants that look are the same but different ;)
 

flowamasta

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Aside from the bit of heat stress she looks real good.


Did you know phenotype varies by environment, which is why your outdoor looks so diff than your indoor ;)

Same cut, diff growing conditions and you got two plants that look are the same but different ;)
thanx man great input, if i could understand a little better, i myself have not researched into phenotypes and breeding and such, i'm just lucky enough to know alot of keen growers, and have access to a few nice cuts.
I wish my indoor looked more like like my outdoor, fatter callyx's more bud sites.

and heat stress? she hasnt gone over 31 degrees for while now, been nice cool weather, are you referring to the sides of the fans curling slightly? i think this is due to my fan blowing soo hard on her....thoughts? u maybe right but my last grow was a lot hotter than this girl at this stage, and she looked fine, no curling of the leaves, but i'm using a new fan, blow the air around a bit more.
i really don't see any heat stress, can you explain?
 

forgetiwashere

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Hey flowie if u wanted your indoor to have bud structure more like your outdoories don't use cyco flower and they will stretch out more. But under false lights it is probably best to stick with what your doing. Can't argue with the results. Looking real good ad always. In starting my next grow log soon I will let u know when I do. It would be cool if you popped in
 
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