FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

eastcoastmo

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Haha awesome idea dude :)

and hell yeah, she's turned out very nicely after the reveg! She should start to really flower in the next two weeks though, longest day of the year was over a week ago! Both my outdoory's showed sex a week ago and the white lightening was either a male or hermie :( ripped that mother down! The sugar haze is looking great though, cant wait to try it!! Got a couple of clones off her too just in case my big blue ones dont work out lol
 
Hey flowa, looks amazing man.. Can't wait to see the weigh in! I'm in the process of building the same setup, ended up going with bigger pots, 67 litre was all I could find that I could see working, I have a question tho, these pot socks.. How essential are they? Think iit would make a difference if I didn't use one? It's the only thing I cant source locally and most likely won't find them in 67litre sizes
 

flowamasta

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Haha awesome idea dude :)

and hell yeah, she's turned out very nicely after the reveg! She should start to really flower in the next two weeks though, longest day of the year was over a week ago! Both my outdoory's showed sex a week ago and the white lightening was either a male or hermie :( ripped that mother down! The sugar haze is looking great though, cant wait to try it!! Got a couple of clones off her too just in case my big blue ones dont work out lol
shweet! glad you like her :)

Everything about sugar haze sounds delectable for sure! if she cloned ok i'm sure you're onto a winner ;)

Damn you think she'll be flowering in the next couple of weeks!!?? ouch better have the inspection soon then!! she already reaks the backyard out and there isnt really any bud on her!! you touch it and it flakes away like dust but funnily it smells funky as :) but ofcourse i dont care about that stuff! she isn't showing any 5 or more blade leaves as yet i thought that was strange :?: only preflowers which its had the whole time.... I'm sure its getting close as you say, the nodes are closer together and shes bushing out great, i will have to tie her down though, i can see that happening!! so much for growing a Bonzai :p I hope the pot is big enough to!!

Hey flowa, looks amazing man.. Can't wait to see the weigh in! I'm in the process of building the same setup, ended up going with bigger pots, 67 litre was all I could find that I could see working, I have a question tho, these pot socks.. How essential are they? Think iit would make a difference if I didn't use one? It's the only thing I cant source locally and most likely won't find them in 67litre sizes
Than man!! The weigh in will surprize a few, i just threw the small stuff in a fresh freezer bag to seal off and cure for the day, i'll open it up tonight and bunch it up loosely. Out of curiosity as its nearly dry..

I weighed the small stuff for some new info :) smaller stuff weighing in at around 220 grams + a nice half oz sample bud i took of earlier. Still to lose another 10-20 grams perhaps for the small stuff. The big stuff on the other hand, is entirely a different story ;) It looks heavier, thicker, more resinous..... this is ofcourse a MINOR drawback when creating a canopy so thick as the underneath seams to grow spindly and unworthy of my standards. Oh but smokable ofcourse :p The big Stuff has to weigh in at 1 lb for me to equal last grow. You know what??? i don't think it will :( My guess with the large heads is around 350-400 grams max, i could be wrong, it is very resinous, but future reference is telling me i could of harvested a couple of extra days later maybe..... Again!!! i could be wrong!!! The smell of the colas is insatiable!! absolutely full of citrus and berry fruits :) The smell alone will keep me entertained while mulling my morning mixes :weed:

X your fingers people!! If i get less than 350 grams in Tops i did something wrong. I was looking at 600 grams minimum as a yield number considering the extra lighting/cooling However i did flush a few days extra as well which could of somewhat starved her towards the end a little too early which could explain the lighter colour difference and bud appeal, This could still be a good thing yet! Smoke report and true weigh in still to come probably in the next 2 days given this crazy ass hot weather.
 

buzworthy

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Wow great show! Slanty x flowa (purple jack) now that would be something id pay to see. Good work guys.
 

eastcoastmo

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shweet! glad you like her :)

Everything about sugar haze sounds delectable for sure! if she cloned ok i'm sure you're onto a winner ;)

Damn you think she'll be flowering in the next couple of weeks!!?? ouch better have the inspection soon then!! she already reaks the backyard out and there isnt really any bud on her!! you touch it and it flakes away like dust but funnily it smells funky as :) but ofcourse i dont care about that stuff! she isn't showing any 5 or more blade leaves as yet i thought that was strange :?: only preflowers which its had the whole time.... I'm sure its getting close as you say, the nodes are closer together and shes bushing out great, i will have to tie her down though, i can see that happening!! so much for growing a Bonzai :p I hope the pot is big enough to!!


Than man!! The weigh in will surprize a few, i just threw the small stuff in a fresh freezer bag to seal off and cure for the day, i'll open it up tonight and bunch it up loosely. Out of curiosity as its nearly dry..

I weighed the small stuff for some new info :) smaller stuff weighing in at around 220 grams + a nice half oz sample bud i took of earlier. Still to lose another 10-20 grams perhaps for the small stuff. The big stuff on the other hand, is entirely a different story ;) It looks heavier, thicker, more resinous..... this is ofcourse a MINOR drawback when creating a canopy so thick as the underneath seams to grow spindly and unworthy of my standards. Oh but smokable ofcourse :p The big Stuff has to weigh in at 1 lb for me to equal last grow. You know what??? i don't think it will :( My guess with the large heads is around 350-400 grams max, i could be wrong, it is very resinous, but future reference is telling me i could of harvested a couple of extra days later maybe..... Again!!! i could be wrong!!! The smell of the colas is insatiable!! absolutely full of citrus and berry fruits :) The smell alone will keep me entertained while mulling my morning mixes :weed:

X your fingers people!! If i get less than 350 grams in Tops i did something wrong. I was looking at 600 grams minimum as a yield number considering the extra lighting/cooling However i did flush a few days extra as well which could of somewhat starved her towards the end a little too early which could explain the lighter colour difference and bud appeal, This could still be a good thing yet! Smoke report and true weigh in still to come probably in the next 2 days given this crazy ass hot weather.
Hell yeah bro, she looks sexy even after her reveg :-) she will definitely start to flower soon, if she hasnt already! Mine are about 1-2 weeks in and they are in full sun from sunrise to sunset!

And definitely mate, if the sugar haze goes nicely outside i may just end up using one of the clones in my tent, will have to wait and see! So far so good though :)

Wow man, you really reckon you wont end up with as much? Those colas look bigger than your last and you had more...be very interesting so see how you go mate ;) im sure its all damn smokable dank ass ganja though so either way i know you'll be happy :D the smell you're describing sounds delicious too!!
 

jazzyjsd18

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Hey Flowa- When you use the Cyco XL do you cut your nute strength and leave out additives? You said it drops PH super low, so do you use ph+ or buffer it with something else? Any in depth info would be awesome... you're pretty much the only person on here using it(that I know of), and I'm not trying to kill everything while you're on hiatus lol.
 

jazzyjsd18

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Hey flowa, looks amazing man.. Can't wait to see the weigh in! I'm in the process of building the same setup, ended up going with bigger pots, 67 litre was all I could find that I could see working, I have a question tho, these pot socks.. How essential are they? Think iit would make a difference if I didn't use one? It's the only thing I cant source locally and most likely won't find them in 67litre sizes
If your pots have no drainage holes, drill a bunch of 4mm holes. Enough to have good waterflow, but not big enough for the perlite to fall through. If you have drainage holes, you need to make it so the perlite won't fall through. That's the sole purpose of the pot sock.
 

flowamasta

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Hey flowa, looks amazing man.. Can't wait to see the weigh in! I'm in the process of building the same setup, ended up going with bigger pots, 67 litre was all I could find that I could see working, I have a question tho, these pot socks.. How essential are they? Think iit would make a difference if I didn't use one? It's the only thing I cant source locally and most likely won't find them in 67litre sizes
shit sorry man! missed that, been kinda busy.... and stoned lol

The pot sok is great for cleanup at the end, as you just lift the bag and scrub the pots, it acts as kind of a filter so no perlite comes through the return line and blocks up the res. But pumps these days have filters anyway but extra measures is never a bad thing....
Drill holes will be fine, if you can sand them smooth they will be a pinch to clean, if they are rough, expect bacteria or some ort of fungus to start growing in those holes which will become smaller and smaller if you never clean them properly. We don't want to have to buy pots all the time, too expensive, but holes will work for sure. I mean some people run no 2nd outer pot and just a return line, i've seen it with success, but not always all the time...
 

flowamasta

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Hey Flowa- When you use the Cyco XL do you cut your nute strength and leave out additives? You said it drops PH super low, so do you use ph+ or buffer it with something else? Any in depth info would be awesome... you're pretty much the only person on here using it(that I know of), and I'm not trying to kill everything while you're on hiatus lol.
I'll get back to all in a little while! ;)

The XL acid information is in this current thread, on post 154 i believe. Hope that steers you in the right direction, page 14 if you're on 10 posts per page.
 

Downinit

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Hey flowa! What's the equivalent of XL?? And, my ph keeps going down even after I get it to 5.8 over the next day or so it'll drop to like 5ish. Is this do to the floralicious??
 

flowamasta

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XL has been added with a fresh nutrient change as well as another dose of FUNGA-RID to make sure i didn't miss any mild slime or bacteria down below, but everything was sparkling clean this round! After adding my XL i guessed my way to a ph of around 5-ish..... Hehe i know, you can't guess, but i've done this enough times now to know a splash is a splash..... After adding XL the Ph drops to below 3, so you want to bring that up, but only slightly, if you wait for the phosphates to react with the phosphorus the phosphates become active and highly oxygenated and the ph slightly buffers its way up to around 4 - 4.5 ish so be careful adding ph up ESPECIALLY SINCE ADDING SODIUM HYDROXIDE (PH UP) TO PHOSPHORIC ACID (PH DOWN) can have severe reactions in concentrate form!! so do not mix the 2 in the same container!!! Add bit by bit until you are happy with the ph at around 5. As nutrient wears down the Ph will rise toward the end of the weeks cycle as you begin to add fresh water to the res. XL will make the plant VERY thirsty as it burns the root hairs and forces the plant to take on more water as it can't retain it in the roots (repairing), this is time for the roots to build new root hairs (like air pruning) and multiply creating multiple areas of thick root zones able to take on much more water and nutrients. VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR IN MY METHODS. AS TO WHY THIS IS IN RED. :)

Nutrient was mixed to full strength base + MY usual additives, i will see a mild tip burn in the next couple of days or even tonight as i'm pushing the plant to the max right now and need her metabolism working at maximum efficiency, The flower stage is quite product hungry and a big plant needs alot more food + alot more water, i'm talking 10-15 LITRES PER DAY!!!

Feel free to copy this section, lets say it's 1/5th of my methods equation. Actually it's more like 1/3, without XL I wouldn't get my extreme stretch and doubling in size in 1 week..........




A few people missed this a while back, and an important part of gaining my massive plant so quickly.
 

siret

Member
Lookin amazing, Flowa! I have yet another question for you. Here in the states, nobody supplies Pot Sox or anything comparable (that I know of). Do you think cheesecloth or silk screen would work as a filter for the perlite? Maybe even some fiberglass door screen? If not, got any suggestions to something similar? Thanks for your time! Happy growin'
Go to Home Depot and use a paint strainer bag. 5 gallons bags at that!!! ;-)
 

siret

Member
ummmmmm. no. certainly not. we are not filtering paint. let alone filtering anything really!??
Your right!
I'm using the wrong pot. LOL LOL I'm using a 5 gallon bucket. But I'm switching to a 12 gallon pot soon as possible. I'm on the look out for one!
 

Rastapher

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Flowamasta....... Newbie here.... Thanks for all the great advice. Did I miss the "Uptake"? I looked and looked to see what you have to say about it. Thx.
 

flowamasta

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Flowamasta....... Newbie here.... Thanks for all the great advice. Did I miss the "Uptake"? I looked and looked to see what you have to say about it. Thx.
I chose floralicious as my humic acid..... Uptake is watered down and more suitable for aero ponics.
Floralicious is thick, gloopy and pure. only 10 ml to my 45 litre res!!


  1. An understanding of the role humic acid plays in soil conditioning and plant ... for enhanced water penetration and better root zone growth and development.
    Copy paste :p
 

Downinit

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I chose floralicious as my humic acid..... Uptake is watered down and more suitable for aero ponics.
Floralicious is thick, gloopy and pure. only 10 ml to my 45 litre res!!


  1. An understanding of the role humic acid plays in soil conditioning and plant ... for enhanced water penetration and better root zone growth and development.
    Copy paste :p
Your the man flowa!!! Thank you soooooooo much for all the (GOOD INFO)!!! There's so much bad info out there I truly feel blessed to have found u on here. Thanks again!!:hug:
 
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