Flushing before harvest is Bro Science!
- Thread starter calvin.m16
- Start date
Star Dog
Well-Known Member
Water evaporating leaves behind whatever mineral is in it, that much is physics you'd need to be completely stupid to dispute this.
Based on that law of physics i expect if there's minerals taken up before you chop then they're going nowhere, if it's taken up only water and got time to metabolize the minerals left then there's no mineral residue left in the plant vascular system or considerably less.
Idk htf you folks put so much into that one link.
But hey, you guys know much more than me about this that much is clear
Based on that law of physics i expect if there's minerals taken up before you chop then they're going nowhere, if it's taken up only water and got time to metabolize the minerals left then there's no mineral residue left in the plant vascular system or considerably less.
Idk htf you folks put so much into that one link.
But hey, you guys know much more than me about this that much is clear
Last edited:
Star Dog
Well-Known Member
Late response wow?
Where are these facts?
Ffs please don't refer to that one rx technology link.
Star Dog
Well-Known Member
Do want to put your money where your mouth is?
We both know that you can't learn me anything about growing plants, if you could you'd exercise it yourself and you clearly don't, you know fk all, you're just a Google repeat tool.
Gtf
hotrodharley
Well-Known Member
That’s not what was claimed above. I know they don’t shit or puke. I was raised around livestock and agriculture. One of my standard questions to flushers is what other crop husbanded by man is flushed? I’ve yet to hear one example. Cannabis is no super unique plant. It’s like any other plant. Flushers obviously feel differently and I just ask for some scientific evidence to back that crap up.
hotrodharley
Well-Known Member
You haven’t seen any pictures of burned plants here? Lol. I’m done arguing. It’s like talking to children. Post some evidence. There’s bound to be some actual peer reviewed studies.
Samwell Seed Well
Well-Known Member
I don't flush or leachate my media unless theirs a root issue... I do lower my nutrient uptake though through the end of the cycle
Their is no evidence too flush or not. I wa4ch the plants uptake dive and adjust my nutrient EC accordingly as the plants progress through the cycle...
My only point was plants don't excrete nutrient. Although if the media EC is too high, the osmotic affect that allows them to absorb nutrients can reverse, not really a flushing point but still true
bk78
Well-Known Member
You obviously never seen his last run feeding 4.0 EC have you?
Samwell Seed Well
Well-Known Member
The most conclusive reviews of this affect can be found in these books and they basically say what everyone who understands the relationship between media and nutrients knows.... flushing is a choice and it can more easily have bad effects than poaitive. Snd it's overall effect on end product if used right is nuetral..neutral... pretty colored leaves cool beans
Samwell Seed Well
Well-Known Member
Don't forget day one my plants as a cutting get 2.0EC , oh no, maybe I should have used tap water
Oh you mean my gary cut crops that topped out at 29% total cannabanoids...
Sorry bud, I grow bud not leaves, it's all in my journal..
bk78
Well-Known Member
Best part about all these pictures you just posted is you never had a single dime of your own investment in there and you were fired shorty after.
Nice flex tho bro
Can you show us your actual 2x2 tent you grow in please?
Samwell Seed Well
Well-Known Member
Lol love the stories you need to tell yourself in order to be apart of the conversation.
My old grow basically stands up against everything you say, let my instagram slip and anyone who wants an unbiased opinion can see for themselves there and in my journal, it chronicals the last 4 yrs working in 502.
2x2 is not doing so well, probably won't see anything from that for a while, I'm not spending much time on it and it looks like shit...
How are your 4 plants?
Kassiopeija
Well-Known Member
Some plants. ("Halophytes" e.g.) do "puke" ie. they secrete salt from glands to be able to use seawater. But that's not cereal crops, so rather an exception.
I strongly disagree that plants only take as much as they need. They do indeed have some level of control over nute influx, but high rhizosphere EC can impose/aggravate the problem of nute mismatch/lockout.
Just think of it this way, any plant cell has lots of ports which manage the various in- or effluxes. Now among these are also Antiports which take an ion out while another ion is taken in in exchange.
Yeah and S is secreted (in S abundancy) or e.g. the Ca-kation acts as ion exchanger for many nutes, esp. nitrogen. So there's this old farmer rule where when you apply a pound of Urea you also add a pound of CaCO3.
I strongly disagree that plants only take as much as they need. They do indeed have some level of control over nute influx, but high rhizosphere EC can impose/aggravate the problem of nute mismatch/lockout.
Just think of it this way, any plant cell has lots of ports which manage the various in- or effluxes. Now among these are also Antiports which take an ion out while another ion is taken in in exchange.
Yeah and S is secreted (in S abundancy) or e.g. the Ca-kation acts as ion exchanger for many nutes, esp. nitrogen. So there's this old farmer rule where when you apply a pound of Urea you also add a pound of CaCO3.
Kassiopeija
Well-Known Member
@hotrodharley
The book mentioned is in german, and a hardcopy. So it may take some time to find that specific quote.
In the meanwhile I can recommend this book for the US grow crew:
The book mentioned is in german, and a hardcopy. So it may take some time to find that specific quote.
In the meanwhile I can recommend this book for the US grow crew:
Kassiopeija
Well-Known Member
Really they fired you?!? You did run their place fine. People like you may be needed here in Germany in 2024. We don't get to see here this half-borderline working enslavery like in the US
And our beer still tastes best! (word!)
Kassiopeija
Well-Known Member
think of it this way, the ports can throw stuff out a cell, or within, once within stuff either goes out again, or is delivered into a vacuole or e.g. the endoplasmatic reticulum.
Now when stuff goes out the cell that may be now the apoplastic room in between the cells, and it may still be outside the Casparian stripe/band.
Samwell Seed Well
Well-Known Member
I mean it's a subtle difference but I quit, i used to speak some German , id move to germany in a heartbeat, current boss worked in portugal before coming here
Star Dog
Well-Known Member
Where's these fact I'm arguing with?
You're not best placed to be calling anyone an idiot when don't have facts, do you?
calvin.m16
Well-Known Member
Kassiopeija
Well-Known Member
I just don't know how the officials wanna legislate it - 3 plants but only 20g MJ per person allowed lol it doesn't add up...