Flushing vs. Not Flushing

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r1tony

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I never flush, use organic nutes and feed them till they get chopped. Everyone who has had the pleasure of my buds has always said it's some of the best they had. Smooth, flavorful and potent. We also had side by side Ak-47 one from me and one from fellow MMJ that flushes. Everyone said mine was far superior in taste and smoothness.

Now this is with Botanicare nutes, when you use chemically originated nutes then it might be different.
 
CanadianDank

CanadianDank

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Hey there just wanted to chime in,
I just finished paradise seeds Magic Bud (organic grow), flushed two and for experiments sake did not flush the third.
I dried them properly and cured for three weeks.
My personal experience was that the unflushed plant tasted awful, i mean not unsmokable, but nowhere near what i want to be smoking. Had to turn most of it into hash.
The two that I flushed turned out wonderfully. :)
The funny part is, the only reason i tried not flushing was because lately i've been reading more and more people stating it is not neccasary, i found otherwise.
Just my findings.
 
Gary Busey

Gary Busey

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Here's my take on flushing (for soil):

Some people flush for the last 2 weeks of flower. The problem with that is, you are starving your plant for the most important part of its life. It swells up a lot in the last 2 weeks. I believe it will hurt yield and potency if you flush too soon, and to me, I am not trading yield and potency for a better flavor.

I never noticed any nute flavors in my buds.

I'm on my first hydro grow after growing in soil for 18 years, I will do a "flush" during last few days, basically just having a res with plain PH'd water.
 
bamfrivet

bamfrivet

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CanadianDank said:
Hey there just wanted to chime in,
I just finished paradise seeds Magic Bud (organic grow), flushed two and for experiments sake did not flush the third.
I dried them properly and cured for three weeks.
My personal experience was that the unflushed plant tasted awful, i mean not unsmokable, but nowhere near what i want to be smoking. Had to turn most of it into hash.
The two that I flushed turned out wonderfully. :)
The funny part is, the only reason i tried not flushing was because lately i've been reading more and more people stating it is not neccasary, i found otherwise.
Just my findings.
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I think that you just taste a difference because you know you didn't flush it and you have been trained all these years that flushing is that important to taste. I think if you would have packed a bowl of flushed and a bowl of unflushed and give them to a friend and tell them to try them, just tell them they both came off plants at different harvest times, and see what they say about the taste. your mind has a way of control things like smell and taste if you expect it to smell or taste a certain way.
 
CanadianDank

CanadianDank

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bamfrivet said:
I think that you just taste a difference because you know you didn't flush it and you have been trained all these years that flushing is that important to taste. I think if you would have packed a bowl of flushed and a bowl of unflushed and give them to a friend and tell them to try them, just tell them they both came off plants at different harvest times, and see what they say about the taste. your mind has a way of control things like smell and taste if you expect it to smell or taste a certain way.
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Unfortunetly no, Others asked why some of the Magic Bud tasted different....
And when organic nutes are based on things such as fish emulsion even the slightest hint is nasty.
 
djruiner

djruiner

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CanadianDank said:
Unfortunetly no, Others asked why some of the Magic Bud tasted different....
And when organic nutes are based on things such as fish emulsion even the slightest hint is nasty.
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are you smoking the soil? or do you seriously think that the plants roots can uptake any fish material that contains a fish smell? do people think that roots are straws that just suck up everything you put in the soil?
 
CanadianDank

CanadianDank

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djruiner said:
are you smoking the soil? or do you seriously think that the plants roots can uptake any fish material that contains a fish smell? do people think that roots are straws that just suck up everything you put in the soil?
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Hey man i'm not trying to personally challenge you, and i do believe other people have had other findings, but that was mine.
BTW, I was growing in a soilless medium, some people say this has an effect.
 
djruiner

djruiner

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CanadianDank said:
Hey man i'm not trying to personally challenge you, and i do believe other people have had other findings, but that was mine.
BTW, I was growing in a soilless medium, some people say this has an effect.
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not challenging...debating...its how we determine what is myths and what isnt..but forum hype is really beginning to make the number of myths rise. and i am not going by "other peoples finding" aka "forum hype" im going by scientific facts..not to mention simple 6th grade botany stuff. its pathological lying...just in forum form. if a person keeps telling the same lie over and over...in their head it eventually becomes truth to them...so is the case with forum myths. if you see it and read it over and over again...it becomes truth to people...not because its facts...because they see it so many times by so many people that in their head it must be the truth.
 
djruiner

djruiner

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found this little ditty....i like the part where it also calls it "mythomaniacs"

How can you tell if someone is a pathological liar?
In: Mental Health, Narcissism, Sociopathy
Answers.com > Wiki Answers > Categories > Health > Mental Health > How can you tell if someone is a pathological liar?
Answer:

Identifying a Pathological Liar

Pathological liars - or "mythomaniacs" - may be suffering from histrionic personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder. The following comments basically reflect a pathological liar who has the characteristics of histrionic personality disorder.


Some characteristics

1. Exaggerates things that are ridiculous.
2. One-upping. Whatever you do, this person can do it better. You will never top them in their own mind, because they have a concerted need to be better than everyone else. This also applies to being right. If you try to confront an individual like this, no matter how lovingly and well-intentioned you might be - this will probably not be effective. It's threatening their fantasy of themselves, so they would rather argue with you and bring out the sharp knives than admit that there's anything wrong with them.
3. They "construct" a reality around themselves. They don't value the truth, especially if they don't see it as hurting anyone. If you call them on a lie and they are backed into a corner, they will act very defensively and say ugly things (most likely but depends on personality), but they may eventually start to act like, "Well, what's the difference? You're making a big deal out of nothing!" (again, to refocus the conversation to your wrongdoing instead of theirs).
4. Because these people don't value honesty, a lot of times they will not value loyalty. So watch what you tell them. They will not only tell others, but they will embellish to make you look worse. Their loyalty is fleeting, and because they are insecure people, they will find solace in confiding to whomever is in their favor at the moment.
5. They may be somewhat of a hypochondriac. This can come in especially useful when caught in a lie, for example, they can claim that they have been sick, or that there's some mysteriously "illness" that has them all stressed out. It's another excuse tool for their behavior.
6. Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so many lies (who would be?)
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djruiner

djruiner

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CanadianDank said:
Okay man.
Getting a little off topic aren't ya?
Sorry you don't agree with my views on the final flush.
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how is it off topic? talking about flushing vs not flushing...well flushing is a myth..im explaining why it is and why it stays a myth and not forgotten
 
CanadianDank

CanadianDank

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djruiner said:
not challenging...debating...its how we determine what is myths and what isnt..but forum hype is really beginning to make the number of myths rise. and i am not going by "other peoples finding" aka "forum hype" im going by scientific facts..not to mention simple 6th grade botany stuff. its pathological lying...just in forum form. if a person keeps telling the same lie over and over...in their head it eventually becomes truth to them...so is the case with forum myths. if you see it and read it over and over again...it becomes truth to people...not because its facts...because they see it so many times by so many people that in their head it must be the truth.
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And this proves you dont need to flush??
Oh what scientific proof you have.:dunce:
 
woodsusa

woodsusa

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I'm going to flush and cut down my lights to 10 on 14 off for the last 10 days of flowering. I have 4 different photoperiods, harvested and pretty well cured, that I didn't flush and they all have kind of a similar very slight chemical taste. I'm no expert by any means but I'm going to try flushing on 3 that are close to finishing.
 
CanadianDank

CanadianDank

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woodsusa said:
I'm going to flush and cut down my lights to 10 on 14 off for the last 10 days of flowering. I have 4 different photoperiods, harvested and pretty well cured, that I didn't flush and they all have kind of a similar very slight chemical taste. I'm no expert by any means but I'm going to try flushing on 3 that are close to finishing.
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Trust me, If anything, It's worth a try.
 
bamfrivet

bamfrivet

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I honestly don't understand how people can't believe that marijuana is the only plant that you need to starve before you cut it or it will taste like shit... I just don't get it. You don't starve tomato's, blue berries, carrots, starwberries, tobacco, corn, lettuce... you get it? If what is in the soil were to travel up to the plant's fruits and flowers then you would see farmers all over the world starving their plants before harvest all over the world... but you don't.. because it's a bad idea.
 
canefan

canefan

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^^^Ain't it the truth, its really sad what is passed as truth and biology at times around here. I'm just glad I don't eat from their veggie garden.
 
woodsusa

woodsusa

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It's not quite the same as a veggie garden though I admit my gardening skills are minimal. In a veggied garden you're going for fruit. With weed you're going for unfertilized flowers. Maybe you shouldn't flush, maybe you should, but like I said my first batch all had a slight chem taste and there was 4 different types growing. So I'll try it on 1 of 3 types I have flowering now that are getting close to finishing.
 
bamfrivet

bamfrivet

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woodsusa said:
It's not quite the same as a veggie garden though I admit my gardening skills are minimal. In a veggied garden you're going for fruit. With weed you're going for unfertilized flowers. Maybe you shouldn't flush, maybe you should, but like I said my first batch all had a slight chem taste and there was 4 different types growing. So I'll try it on 1 of 3 types I have flowering now that are getting close to finishing.
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It was your first grow and all the plants tasted bad even though they were different strains.... could it have had something to do with drying it to quickly and not curing it properly? I mean most people with their first harvest don't dry and cure properly, just like growing it takes experiences to get it right.
 
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