bassman999
Well-Known Member
Ok
So you just take the 2 and mix them into the pots evenly loosely packed?
Does a bag equal close to the same volume as the clay rocks?
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So you just take the 2 and mix them into the pots evenly loosely packed?
Does a bag equal close to the same volume as the clay rocks?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
This is what the green label growdan packaging should look like.
http://www.hydrofarm.com/product.php?itemid=3823
And the absorbant
http://www.hydrofarm.com/product.php?itemid=3827
Less water using growdan plus you can flood for less time do to how the growdan wicks water
a bag of growdan will fill 50buckets so if you went 50/50 you could fill 100 buckets
Loose fill growdan you just throw in the bucket and plant.
although its good to do a pre-charge before with half strength solution to pre-charge and rinse
out and particals in the medium
http://www.hydrofarm.com/product.php?itemid=3823
And the absorbant
http://www.hydrofarm.com/product.php?itemid=3827
Less water using growdan plus you can flood for less time do to how the growdan wicks water
a bag of growdan will fill 50buckets so if you went 50/50 you could fill 100 buckets
Loose fill growdan you just throw in the bucket and plant.
although its good to do a pre-charge before with half strength solution to pre-charge and rinse
out and particals in the medium
bassman999
Well-Known Member
I was worried about price when I looked them up earlier, but if they go that far Ill def have to try em out next time.This is what the green label growdan packaging should look like.
http://www.hydrofarm.com/product.php?itemid=3823
And the absorbant
http://www.hydrofarm.com/product.php?itemid=3827
Less water using growdan plus you can flood for less time do to how the growdan wicks water
a bag of growdan will fill 50buckets so if you went 50/50 you could fill 100 buckets
Loose fill growdan you just throw in the bucket and plant.
although its good to do a pre-charge before with half strength solution to pre-charge and rinse
out and particals in the medium
Ill have to see what it looks like...it says granules and wool, so I guess the 2 parts are different looking....?
Google images...looks very interesting.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
They look almost the same.. Price point is worth it over washing rock! You think new rock is bad lol
wait till you get to clean once or twice used rock with all the roots = nightmare
wait till you get to clean once or twice used rock with all the roots = nightmare
bassman999
Well-Known Member
I bet it is.
I spent 2 hrs washing the new stuff and it still leaves dust in pots res etc...
GreenMountain71
Member
Bro do a run off test to see where the ph is. The stones are around 7. Did you soak them for a few days in ph of 5.0?
bassman999
Well-Known Member
I didnt know that I had to do that.
The ph has stabilized now though.
I have found that the water I use has a ph rise for 1-2 days, or 4-6 hrs if I bubble it.
I get water prepared in advance now, and am having way less issue and plants are looking way better.
Thanx for the help
GreenMountain71
Member
I stopped using hydro stone! Works great for the 2nd and 3rd run! 1st I always had problems with ph swings! Had to do run off then adjust nutes to make the run off 5.5! I would check just before the next feeding and the ph would be above 6. I use canna coco in smart pots with my ebb monster! Check out the oxygen pot system. Also if anyone looking to save some cash of with grow bulb blow out sale @greners! Hortilux super hps for $59! Sweet deal! Plant max are $19
bassman999
Well-Known Member
EBB n GRO on roids lol nice
bassman999
Well-Known Member
I followed the Lucas formula, and my ppm/EC seems too high.
I am using 145ppm tap water with GH Flora series 3 part using only Micro and Bloom and Micro 8ml/gal and Bloom 16ml/gal
PPM 1500 and ec 2.1 after a flood and drain I am down to 2.0ec and 1450ppm at .70 conv.
I am using 145ppm tap water with GH Flora series 3 part using only Micro and Bloom and Micro 8ml/gal and Bloom 16ml/gal
PPM 1500 and ec 2.1 after a flood and drain I am down to 2.0ec and 1450ppm at .70 conv.
GreenMountain71
Member
Using a lil to much! I use 6ml of micro an 9 ml of bloom. Ppms are around 750 800!ph is 5.5! 900 to 1000 on my 6 to 7 ft tall ones. Yours must be around 4.5 or 5 with that mix. Are you using ph up? After 30 days I pull micro an use kool bloom powder! Works great!
heres what I use! Last pull using 2 600z with 5 plants was 35 oz's
You've been asking exactly how I do what I do,with ferts, for a good long time.
This is a recipe for anybody to follow,based on my decade-plus experiences with GenHy's Flora Series.
It does smokin' good for me,your results may vary.
I'm always tweaking the above,and you should,too.
==The Recipe==
(All Products are GenHydro,pH at 5.5 pH)
(All measurements are per gal.)
6ml flora micro
9ml flora bloom
Kool-Bloom POWDER
VEGETATIVE STAGE AT 24 HRS. LIGHT ON
(18/6,optional)
Veg,Feed:
6ml flora micro
9ml flora bloom
Use the above 1/2-strength on seedlings and clones to 10" tall,then feed full-strength>on.
Based on 63 day 12/12 Flower Cycle:
Day 1-14
6ml micro
9ml bloom
Day 15-21
6ml micro
9ml bloom
1 tsp./Gal. Kool-Bloom POWDER (ONE FEED,DAY 15!)
Day 22-28
6ml micro
9ml Bloom
Day 29-35
9ml Bloom
1 tsp./gal. Kool-Bloom POWDER (ONE FEED,DAY 29!)
Day 36-52
9 ml Bloom
(AND ON DAY 36,a 1 tsp./gal Kool-Bloom POWDER Slam!!)
Day 52-63 (Flush)
5.5-6.0 pH h20 at 50 ppm
Now you know!!
ADDENDUM 9-6-09:
I've seen yields increase about 15% (!!) with the above modifications.
heres what I use! Last pull using 2 600z with 5 plants was 35 oz's
You've been asking exactly how I do what I do,with ferts, for a good long time.
This is a recipe for anybody to follow,based on my decade-plus experiences with GenHy's Flora Series.
It does smokin' good for me,your results may vary.
I'm always tweaking the above,and you should,too.
==The Recipe==
(All Products are GenHydro,pH at 5.5 pH)
(All measurements are per gal.)
6ml flora micro
9ml flora bloom
Kool-Bloom POWDER
VEGETATIVE STAGE AT 24 HRS. LIGHT ON
(18/6,optional)
Veg,Feed:
6ml flora micro
9ml flora bloom
Use the above 1/2-strength on seedlings and clones to 10" tall,then feed full-strength>on.
Based on 63 day 12/12 Flower Cycle:
Day 1-14
6ml micro
9ml bloom
Day 15-21
6ml micro
9ml bloom
1 tsp./Gal. Kool-Bloom POWDER (ONE FEED,DAY 15!)
Day 22-28
6ml micro
9ml Bloom
Day 29-35
9ml Bloom
1 tsp./gal. Kool-Bloom POWDER (ONE FEED,DAY 29!)
Day 36-52
9 ml Bloom
(AND ON DAY 36,a 1 tsp./gal Kool-Bloom POWDER Slam!!)
Day 52-63 (Flush)
5.5-6.0 pH h20 at 50 ppm
Now you know!!
ADDENDUM 9-6-09:
I've seen yields increase about 15% (!!) with the above modifications.
bassman999
Well-Known Member
Ok I am gonna water it down.
BTW I have tap water.
IDK why the LUCAS site shows such a high concentration.
I have to use ph down still if you can believe that, as my tap will rise to over 9 after it airs out
BTW I have tap water.
IDK why the LUCAS site shows such a high concentration.
I have to use ph down still if you can believe that, as my tap will rise to over 9 after it airs out
bassman999
Well-Known Member
I added 8 gallons of 145 ppm tap, and its down to 1220 ppm at the .7 conversion now
GreenMountain71
Member
How big are your girls? Any burning on the tips?
bassman999
Well-Known Member
I have a laundry list of strains.
I dont make anything easy.
With that said, the sativas (Pineapple and SLH) are clawing with slight tip burn, but the rest are really coming alive!
They are all between 13" and 19" from the clay balls.
This is a few inches taller than a few days ago.
They were stagnant after transplant into the ebb for 7 days or so, but when the roots hit the bottom the did take off just as everyone said they would.
bassman999
Well-Known Member
ppm is 1150 now and stable
GreenDyl
Active Member
Anyone got any experience with adding airstones into individual buckets? I am getting root rot for the first time in a oceanus 4 gal bucket system from the roots sitting in the water. Temps are 69 ph is stable anywhere from 5.5-6.2. I run heis tea every 2 weeks. Its a heavy indica strain so i was thinking maybe the genetics on this one really just don't like being watered so much.
bassman999
Well-Known Member
I added airstones to rez with 20 watt pump and Dutch Master Zone to rez just below medium strength acc to their website and my rez seems to be doing way better now with similar temps
GreenDyl
Active Member
So obviously you weren't running heisenbergs tea then or what? I think I'm about to go load up on airstones tomorrow. Ill let you guys know what happens hopefully its straight. Im starting my second week of flower so this is crucial.