for those of you who measure your runoff EC hydro coco

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Snickerpus

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Problem is you are skimpy with the amount of the nutrient solution you provide. Apparently you have ignored what I have wrote to you, so have fun with all of that measuring of runoff EC and pH and 20% :bigjoint:
 
medidedicated

medidedicated

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harrychilds said:
I have no idea what you are talking about, I just use an EC pen and it gives readings like this. 0.1 EC, 0.2 EC, 0.3 EC all the way up to say 2.0 EC or whatever the highest reading is lol :bigjoint:
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yes and the run off reads EC .5 but inflow is EC 1.1. so yea im just getting some advice to consider and see what yall think, its hard to make a post that isnt asking for trouble and arguements because one says this the one says the other but at rhe end of the day i got to hear how people with more expirience would suggest doing things that can help me pave my way into getting a routine going. some say raise the ec but many here say 1.1 ec is what they inflow with plants half way through flowering and this is far before that phase but its good to know me suddenly trying that can be done with more confidence than just going on a whim
 
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Treesomewanted77

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That’s normally how I do it too until an issue arises like I’m having with 2 out of 3 plants all getting same feed but since I read the runoff for first time the 2 plants with issues are way lower runoff than what is going in like they have been flushed way too much but I don’t flush them only feed to 10-20% runoff every feeding. 1 plant is perfect and the runoff is higher than the input but for some reason the other 2 are lower and starting to show signs of problems and normally I never have issues with the way I’m doing it been doing it for several runs with great success and haven’t changed anything and these are same strains I’ve ran this way. So like the OP trying to figure why these would be so low compared to the other that isn’t showing any issues.
 
medidedicated

medidedicated

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Snickerpus said:
Problem is you are skimpy with the amount of the nutrient solution you provide. Apparently you have ignored what I have wrote to you, so have fun with all of that measuring of runoff EC and pH and 20% :bigjoint:
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ive thought that and im glad to hear it said because its mostly calmag but if i take out the tap water it would have alot more salts from nutrients. instead of 250 points being what evers in the tap and u can lower the calmg later on which is more room for nutrients. i did see your post and considered it but litwrally since then i have bought pumps and hydroguard, im not just trying to start arguements im using a lot of advice i hear from here unless its heavily boo’d lol. some where a little but that happens with growing topics
 
medidedicated

medidedicated

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Treesomewanted77 said:
That’s normally how I do it too until an issue arises like I’m having with 2 out of 3 plants all getting same feed but since I read the runoff for first time the 2 plants with issues are way lower runoff than what is going in like they have been flushed way too much but I don’t flush them only feed to 10-20% runoff every feeding. 1 plant is perfect and the runoff is higher than the input but for some reason the other 2 are lower and starting to show signs of problems and normally I never have issues with the way I’m doing it been doing it for several runs with great success and haven’t changed anything and these are same strains I’ve ran this way. So like the OP trying to figure why these would be so low compared to the other that isn’t showing any issues.
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some think its crazy talk appearently though jeez lol its hydro we provide all the nutrients so this is what diagnosing problems looks like, im not trying to start arguements like everything is fine, look at these two plants, one is happy the other looks like hell and would bring one to try and come here and figure it outimage.jpg
 
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medidedicated said:
yes and the run off reads EC .5 but inflow is EC 1.1. so yea im just getting some advice to consider and see what yall think, its hard to make a post that isnt asking for trouble and arguements because one says this the one says the other but at rhe end of the day i got to hear how people with more expirience would suggest doing things that can help me pave my way into getting a routine going. some say raise the ec but many here say 1.1 ec is what they inflow with plants half way through flowering and this is far before that phase but its good to know me suddenly trying that can be done with more confidence than just going on a whim
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Well I think you've got some knowledgeable coco guys in your thread already.

But if your putting in 1.1 EC and getting out 0.5EC and you think its an issue then up your EC to 1. 2 or 1.3. Or higher if you like, if its getting regular watering then higher won't hurt, bit wasteful but won't hurt.

You really want to be at 78 degrees F and I'd be looking at getting that sorted out instead if concerning yourself with low EC run off.

There's a massive difference between heat stress and light stress. You shouldn't be getting heat stress under 85f with LED.

If you can't keep your temps up then lower your fan speed or add more light but further away.

Out of interest what sort of climate do you live in? What's the ambient air temp outside your grow tent?
 
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medidedicated said:
some think its crazy talk appearently though jeez lol its hydro we provide all the nutrients so this is what diagnosing problems looks like, im not trying to start arguements like everything is fine, look at these two plants, one is happy the other looks like hell and would bring one to try and come here and figure it outView attachment 5148915
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Your “drain reservoir” explains everthing. Just go on like a horse with blinds.
 
medidedicated

medidedicated

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im scared the otherone will look like the harsh one soon since runoff is the only thing that stands out

yall, im hearing out each response please dont think im ignoring you, and a couple of yall im not sure i understand what your implying but most of my plants looks healthy but they all do this and im just wondering something that tons of growers follow and see the same results except for me which i can up the EC, i heard yall out on that i think your reacting to me trying to make sense of a couple here who keep expressing fustration or something the two or three times i posted in this type of topic which ive learned a shit ton from since each thread.
 
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medidedicated

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coreywebster said:
Well I think you've got some knowledgeable coco guys in your thread already.

But if your putting in 1.1 EC and getting out 0.5EC and you think its an issue then up your EC to 1. 2 or 1.3. Or higher if you like, if its getting regular watering then higher won't hurt, bit wasteful but won't hurt.

You really want to be at 78 degrees F and I'd be looking at getting that sorted out instead if concerning yourself with low EC run off.

There's a massive difference between heat stress and light stress. You shouldn't be getting heat stress under 85f with LED.

If you can't keep your temps up then lower your fan speed or add more light but further away.

Out of interest what sort of climate do you live in? What's the ambient air temp outside your grow tent?
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north hemisphire cold winters and with the change in weather its hotter summers now and its 65 to 70F 35%RH winter and 50% RH summer
 
medidedicated

medidedicated

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coreywebster said:
I read your bio. How are you rinsing your dehydrated block coco?
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i use a 1/8” mesh screen strainer and i rinse it lightly but good enough and pick out any impurities and then put it in a marked bucket to get a wet portion of a coco to perlite mix ratio chart from dr mj coco til i get what i need then i buffer it in a fabric pot bag in a large bin with tap and calmag to EC 1.2 i dont bother with PH and do this twice for 8 hrs and then rinse a little then mix with perlite then preirrigate to desired runoff EC to inflow EC which thanks for bringing this up, thats why im confused because it wasnt hard to match EC’s but now its like its dissapearing somewhere lol unless the plants drinking EC .6 of the solution
 
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harrychilds

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medidedicated said:
yes and the run off reads EC .5 but inflow is EC 1.1. so yea im just getting some advice to consider and see what yall think, its hard to make a post that isnt asking for trouble and arguements because one says this the one says the other but at rhe end of the day i got to hear how people with more expirience would suggest doing things that can help me pave my way into getting a routine going. some say raise the ec but many here say 1.1 ec is what they inflow with plants half way through flowering and this is far before that phase but its good to know me suddenly trying that can be done with more confidence than just going on a whim
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Your run off EC is way too low. up your EC to 1.3 for a week and if it's still coming out low then up it by another 0.2 EC
 
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