Ya, I got them off Ebay last year. If I remember right, i paid about 150$. I might pick up 2 of the all blue panels just for budding. I read that they can increase the yield and potency if you use them during the flowering stage. We'll see. And, as far as the pH goes, I just read that adding white vinegar will lower the pH. They said you should not use Wine vinegar or cider vinegar as they may contain undesired organisms in them. Vinegar did the trick. pH has gone from 7.4 to 6.1, mighty sweet