Full spectrum lights UNDERNEATH the canopy increases dry bud mass by 24.5% what are you using?

70's natureboy

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I do actually multi task, here's my closet grow last spring. It was indoor! I don't always play outside, ya know ;)
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Yeah, your indoor plants are too small for under lighting. If you had 6 foot trees you would see that there is a lot less light down there. Outdoor plants get plenty of light from every angle unlike indoor growing. This thread reminded me to get those bottom lights out again.
 

Paindevice

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I did Not Once Ask for anything from you. And Umm, Photosynthesis happens from the top. Please stop, before you make yourself look like more of an idiot. JM2C
Leaves are slightly translucent, the light will pass through the entire leaf and interact with all chloroplasts; the chloroplasts that allow for photosynthesis are held in the middle of the leaf between the upper and lower epidermis, the underside of leaves can photosynthesize. Just because they do it at a rate far lower because of nature than the top of the leaves is meaningless when it comes to the studies of under canopy lighting. So top lighting 1000 watt HPS = 100% of photosynthesis and the under canopy lighting with weak LEDS can add an additional 5 - 10% yield and growth why knock it? Why the beef? Not to mention as I posted the early 80s studies of blue light under the canopy and stomatal opening... So 85+ degrees + 1600 ppm Co2 + passive blue light under canopy can lead to explosive growth and has been shown in University studies. It's like you're either a bunch of old 1969 dead head Woodstock hippies that are set in your ways or a bunch of young guns that aren't capable of reading a .gov peer reviewed article from a University. I won't bring it up again, do your thing... Have a nice day..
 

Zephyrs

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Leaves are slightly translucent, the light will pass through the entire leaf and interact with all chloroplasts; the chloroplasts that allow for photosynthesis are held in the middle of the leaf between the upper and lower epidermis, the underside of leaves can photosynthesize. Just because they do it at a rate far lower because of nature than the top of the leaves is meaningless when it comes to the studies of under canopy lighting. So top lighting 1000 watt HPS = 100% of photosynthesis and the under canopy lighting with weak LEDS can add an additional 5 - 10% yield and growth why knock it? Why the beef? Not to mention as I posted the early 80s studies of blue light under the canopy and stomatal opening... So 85+ degrees + 1600 ppm Co2 + passive blue light under canopy can lead to explosive growth and has been shown in University studies. It's like you're either a bunch of old 1969 dead head Woodstock hippies that are set in your ways or a bunch of young guns that aren't capable of reading a .gov peer reviewed article from a University. I won't bring it up again, do your thing... Have a nice day..
I see you did a homework assignment finally. Now Apply it to a grow of your own cannabis. Then report back. ;)
 

Paindevice

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I see you did a homework assignment finally. Now Apply it to a grow of your own cannabis. Then report back. ;)

So you're basically saying that the Cannabis plant grows different than every other single plant on earth according to miles of University empirical data? Okay. That's amazing... you have any .gov links to prove that ?
 
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Zephyrs

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So you're basically saying that the Cannabis plant grows different than every other single plant on earth according to miles of University data? Okay
I go by what I know as a fact. From first hand account of growing my own plant. I Do Not go by some bullshit "college study" that's fuckin laughable! I do what I do... You do your university Google reading!
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lusidghost

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Scuzzman

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agree- this person paindevice is starting to sound like the grow boss full of crap, have used side lighting under lighting for all kinds of growing( ex green house organic farmer growing commercial crops in Australia)there is and was no difference Dude as I said earlier Uni studies are just that studies on someones ideas only- that way these dumb people can justify the crap they spin--- if you cant see that your as thick as pigshit-- you do get a difference in a tent/grow room side lighting( lower bud structure only) but under light waste of time. Keep climbing climb down that rabbit hole your in on crap studies, grow your own crop then you can contribute knowing the facts ...... end
 

Zephyrs

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You're trying to compare these weak ass pics to all the University peer reviewed articles from Ca



LOL Oh okay... now I get it... fuck University studies and all scientific empirical data... you just laid them all out with these ridiculous pics of some plants in a back yard.. rofl... dude get bent...
WOW, some rookie's :roll:
 

Paindevice

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WOW, some rookie's :roll:
For all the shit you talk your plants look like a JOKE by the way... The fact that you even post that .jpg garbage is laughable... If I were you I'd stop that. Or at least label it properly... "an arrogant moron and his outdoor plants who's so stupid he thinks he's smarter than Global Universities."
 
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Paindevice

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Good luck with growing buddy. Obviously you haven't even started yet :cool:
You're such an arrogant ass you think you know better than University studies dating back to 1982 with a bunch of outdoor trash growing in your back yard..? Fucking JOKE... get bent.
 
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Porky1982

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For all the shit you talk your plants look like a JOKE by the way... The fact that you even post that .jpg garbage is laughable... If I were you I'd stop that. Or at least label it properly... "an arrogant moron and his outdoor plants who's so stupid he thinks he's smarter than Global Universities."
Mate you keep saying university studies.
The article you put up at the start is an advertisement from a light company. It is not a university study.
Your looking like you don't understand the difference.

Fuck most university studies are paid for by companies to justify their agenda so I wouldn't trust em anyway.
 

Scuzzman

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https://www.thriveagritech.com/ = LED company, study is a Thesis ..... 2018 old school crap

These guys would have been paid back in 2018/2019 when this was done. Also note in the video they say 10% increase not worth the hassle

Buy a good Led light clean your plants = good light penetration = good air flow = good buds, lower growth great for hash/cooking :eyesmoke:
 
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