SnotBoogie
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You are bang on the money my friend, thanks!
GD-SDS .Short notice / update..
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stardustsailor
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Nah.
Peltier coolers are good for small surfaces and up to ~100-120°C ...
Either something has to conduct/convect and remove heat from stove ....( A Pyrex/Inox container filled with water ? A Fan ? )
Or ...
Something has to lift /move slightly the pcb ,above the hot surface of stove .
So to cool down with ~3°C /sec rate ....
Thing is that the pcb can be moved -agitated/'disturbed' by any means- only
when it's temperature has fallen below 217°C .
When solder has started to solidify ....
...
If moved before it reaches below that point ,then that agitation , might shake the crystallising solder joint!
And that's not good ....
Peltier coolers are good for small surfaces and up to ~100-120°C ...
Either something has to conduct/convect and remove heat from stove ....( A Pyrex/Inox container filled with water ? A Fan ? )
Or ...
Something has to lift /move slightly the pcb ,above the hot surface of stove .
So to cool down with ~3°C /sec rate ....
Thing is that the pcb can be moved -agitated/'disturbed' by any means- only
when it's temperature has fallen below 217°C .
When solder has started to solidify ....
...
If moved before it reaches below that point ,then that agitation , might shake the crystallising solder joint!
And that's not good ....
...P4 Cool down zone
In the cool down zone, a cooling rate of 3 °C/s should be maintained to allow the
components, the printed circuit board, and the solder to cool evenly. This minimizes the
stress on the module housing and the solder joints.
Special attention should be paid here to boards with very different coefficients of
expansion between component and printed circuit board substrate,
such as ceramic based LEDs and aluminum MCPCB.
Exceeding the permissible cooling gradient leads here to a damage to the components
and the substrate.
Likewise, during solidification of the solder, tensions without relaxation can no longer
occur.
Cooling that is too slow (≤ 0.5 °C/s), especially at temperatures around the
melting point, produces coarser grain structures in the solder, which may affect the
reliability of the solder joint and increase the likelihood of a crystalline appearance of the
joint (matte appearance).
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Possible measures for optimizing the reflow profile
As described wrongly selected parameters and attitudes can cause a substantial
damage of the component to be soldered.
The following references should assist and point out possibilities to optimize the reflow
profile respectively to realize a LED friendly solder process as possible with few modifications.
• Limit the peak temperature to approx. 240 °C
• Linear heating
• Avoidance of jumps in gradient (transition
from soak to reflow zones)
• Uniform curve progression around
peak temperature in the time intervall
over liquidus temperature (Fig. 10)
• Use of the last heating zone for gentle
cooling (approx. 170 °C)
• For active cooling zone: Increasing the
operating point of the chiller (generally
only possibly by equipment manufacturer)
• Cooling zones: Reduce the fan speed
to minimal value
• Reduction of conveyer speed (may
require simultaneous temperature adjustment in all heating zones)
Source: Further Details on Lead-Free Reflow Soldering of LEDs
Application Note
OldGrowth420
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stardustsailor
Well-Known Member
Well ...
Another sleepless night gone ...
Programming ....
And fine tuning ....
......
But it was well worth it ....
Grey line is a "standard " lead-free solder reflow profile ....
Not so good example though ...
Purple line is the microcontroller's programmed solder profile ....
And ...
Well ...
Blue line is my third -recorded and analysed - manual hot plate "control " ...
..........................
Any ideas about cooling ?
Am thinking something like a grill just a bit above the stove's hot plate ....
So the pcbs will no sit directly onto the hot-plate ....
Air current of some sort ,over the hot plate system, seems to do a good job @ cooling ....
And here's some serial data send by the Arduino to laptop..
Realtime ..
Actually ,second by second ...
......
type def
{
T= time (sec ) // sec
setpoint=profile PID setpoint // °C
IN= TC input // °C
Out= PWM output duty cycle - of 2000msec window- control of SSR // 2000=100% duty cycle ,1000=50% duty cycle ,etc...
ramp=slope // °C/sec
reflow=timepoint when actual reflow started // sec
Dwell :Total time above liquidus temperature ( 80-100 sec suggested ) // sec
}
So ...Manually :
-Peak temp @ 252°C for ~ sec ( T=200-201 ) : ...Ok ....Manually done ..Let's just do not forget that ...
- max Preheat slope : 1°C/sec : pfffffffffffffffffffffffffff...................Sucks
-Time above 217 °C : 76 sec ( Sweet !!! )
-Time when reflow started : 171 sec => ~60 sec preheating + ~110 sec soaking ...Sweet !!!!
-Soaking & reflowing slopes are close to perfect !
......
So far ....
So good ....
Another sleepless night gone ...
Programming ....
And fine tuning ....
......But it was well worth it ....
Grey line is a "standard " lead-free solder reflow profile ....
Not so good example though ...
Purple line is the microcontroller's programmed solder profile ....
And ...
Well ...
Blue line is my third -recorded and analysed - manual hot plate "control " ...
..........................
Any ideas about cooling ?
Am thinking something like a grill just a bit above the stove's hot plate ....
So the pcbs will no sit directly onto the hot-plate ....
Air current of some sort ,over the hot plate system, seems to do a good job @ cooling ....
And here's some serial data send by the Arduino to laptop..
Realtime ..
Actually ,second by second ...
......
type def
{
T= time (sec ) // sec
setpoint=profile PID setpoint // °C
IN= TC input // °C
Out= PWM output duty cycle - of 2000msec window- control of SSR // 2000=100% duty cycle ,1000=50% duty cycle ,etc...
ramp=slope // °C/sec
reflow=timepoint when actual reflow started // sec
Dwell :Total time above liquidus temperature ( 80-100 sec suggested ) // sec
}
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So ...Manually :
-Peak temp @ 252°C for ~ sec ( T=200-201 ) : ...Ok ....Manually done ..Let's just do not forget that ...
- max Preheat slope : 1°C/sec : pfffffffffffffffffffffffffff...................Sucks
-Time above 217 °C : 76 sec ( Sweet !!! )
-Time when reflow started : 171 sec => ~60 sec preheating + ~110 sec soaking ...Sweet !!!!
-Soaking & reflowing slopes are close to perfect !
......
So far ....
So good ....
OldGrowth420
Well-Known Member
I thought you might need this as well 
[video=youtube;9wCJPm19XYQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wCJPm19XYQ[/video]
[video=youtube;9wCJPm19XYQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wCJPm19XYQ[/video]
stardustsailor
Well-Known Member
And these are the results of first automated -yes-,but UNCALIBRATED system test ....
-A mcpcb of 45 x 55 mm was used as test mc pcb . (a destroyed one ,same like those on the GD-SDS system )
-TC was attached with Kapton & Alum tapes ,to the (upper...) surface of mc pcb .
-PID variables are OVEN calibrated.Not for hot plate ...
-Cooling was done with the high-tech technique of waving a magazine over the mcpcb ....Yeah ...Tech far from ....past ....
.....
PID variables have to be calibrated to suit the hot plating ....
Results :
REALTIME PLOT:
......
DATA :
Have to solve it out ...
-A mcpcb of 45 x 55 mm was used as test mc pcb . (a destroyed one ,same like those on the GD-SDS system )
-TC was attached with Kapton & Alum tapes ,to the (upper...) surface of mc pcb .
-PID variables are OVEN calibrated.Not for hot plate ...
-Cooling was done with the high-tech technique of waving a magazine over the mcpcb ....Yeah ...Tech far from ....past ....
.....
PID variables have to be calibrated to suit the hot plating ....
Results :
REALTIME PLOT:
......DATA :
There's a bug with the ramp variable ...T:1 SETPOINT: 48.00 IN:34.25 OUT:1605.28 RAMP:0.25 REFLOW:0 DWELL:0
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T:309 SETPOINT: 100.00 IN:113.25 OUT:0.00 RAMP:-0.50 REFLOW:163 DWELL:84
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T:312 SETPOINT: 100.00 IN:106.25 OUT:0.00 RAMP:-0.75 REFLOW:163 DWELL:84
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T:314 SETPOINT: 100.00 IN:102.00 OUT:650.00 RAMP:-0.50 REFLOW:163 DWELL:84
T:315 SETPOINT: 100.00 IN:100.75 OUT:50.00 RAMP:-0.25 REFLOW:163 DWELL:84
Have to solve it out ...
stardustsailor
Well-Known Member
Soon I'll be able to reflow -properly-some leds .....
test #2 auto-uncalibrated still
[video=youtube;gK1iKprJYk0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK1iKprJYk0&feature=youtu.be[/video]
test #2 auto-uncalibrated still
[video=youtube;gK1iKprJYk0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK1iKprJYk0&feature=youtu.be[/video]
stardustsailor
Well-Known Member
Hel'yeah !!!!
That's what I call a good & more than acceptable , reflow soldering test profile....
Begun calibrating ....
....
247 °C peak ,84 sec dwell time ...
........SWWWWWEEEEEETTTTTT!!!!!!!!!
That's what I call a good & more than acceptable , reflow soldering test profile....
Begun calibrating ....
....247 °C peak ,84 sec dwell time ...
........SWWWWWEEEEEETTTTTT!!!!!!!!!
stardustsailor
Well-Known Member
And .....Fifth day of third week into flowering .....
stardustsailor
Well-Known Member
Ok .......
Imagine how I feel right now ....
I can already make my own metal core pcbs and choose to have whatever type of led I'd like to have on them ....
In any placement I like / choose ....
Now, I'm really close to a really finely tuned,precise and of high quality reflow procedure ...
All it needs is .....
A bit more precise " PID and Profile parameters" calibrating and it's done ....
...vs .....
Imagine how I feel right now ....
I can already make my own metal core pcbs and choose to have whatever type of led I'd like to have on them ....
In any placement I like / choose ....
Now, I'm really close to a really finely tuned,precise and of high quality reflow procedure ...
All it needs is .....
A bit more precise " PID and Profile parameters" calibrating and it's done ....
...vs .....
Fonzarelli
Active Member
What do you do if a LED goes bad on your PCB board? Will it make them all shut off? How do you replace one LED if they are all soldered to the same PCB?Ok .......
Imagine how I feel right now ....
I can already make my own metal core pcbs and choose to have whatever type of led I'd like to have on them ....
In any placement I like / choose ....
Now, I'm really close to a really finely tuned,precise and of high quality reflow procedure ...
All it needs is .....
A bit more precise " PID and Profile parameters" calibrating and it's done ....
View attachment 2693972...vs .....View attachment 2693973
At first I was thinking how nice it would be to reflow ALL the LEDs onto one PCB board but after realizing that shit happens and nothing is perfect I feel it is best to stick with individual stars even though it's extra work and time. The nice thing about individual stars is that you can move them around and change spectrum any time you want to. With a single board with all LEDs soldered onto it you can't. If an LED goes out you just leave it?
RainerRocks
Active Member
Just break the solder of the bad one so it's not connected to the rest of the leds ,then resolder around it (by-pass) to
the good ones before and after it.
This is the reason I didn't go this route and instead bought the solderless crees at rapidled.One goes bad I just disconnect
it and plug in a new one.
the good ones before and after it.
This is the reason I didn't go this route and instead bought the solderless crees at rapidled.One goes bad I just disconnect
it and plug in a new one.
What do you do if a LED goes bad on your PCB board? Will it make them all shut off? How do you replace one LED if they are all soldered to the same PCB?
At first I was thinking how nice it would be to reflow ALL the LEDs onto one PCB board but after realizing that shit happens and nothing is perfect I feel it is best to stick with individual stars even though it's extra work and time. The nice thing about individual stars is that you can move them around and change spectrum any time you want to. With a single board with all LEDs soldered onto it you can't. If an LED goes out you just leave it?
stardustsailor
Well-Known Member
Well ,I've it covered already in some thread ..What do you do if a LED goes bad on your PCB board? Will it make them all shut off? How do you replace one LED if they are all soldered to the same PCB?
At first I was thinking how nice it would be to reflow ALL the LEDs onto one PCB board but after realizing that shit happens and nothing is perfect I feel it is best to stick with individual stars even though it's extra work and time. The nice thing about individual stars is that you can move them around and change spectrum any time you want to. With a single board with all LEDs soldered onto it you can't. If an LED goes out you just leave it?
Don't remember where ,though...
I use a camping gas stove and a powerful huge fan ...
I reflow -rework half/quarter parts of the heatsink ...
..
Have done it already more than 5-6 times with my current lights ...
If you know what you're doing ..
( Ain't that easy like with kitchen's stove hot plating ...And it is way dangerous ...)
There's no problem at all ...
But needs kinda high level of experience with reflow soldering and reworking procedures/allowances and of course special tools & equip ...
( Grounding wrist wrap,nitrile gloves,dissipative pliers ,heatsink holder ,
K type thermocouple temp measuring ,chronometer with alarms ,
fast & steady hand operations,etc...)
Ain't for the 'faint at heart',4 sure ...
But ,once you manage successfully ,once or twice ...
Then it becomes ,sort of a boring ,time-consuming , ' routine '..