GML Accusations..

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shnkrmn

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I remember when the Area 51 guy (Jeff?) was like a God on this forum. His lights were in demand. He knew it, too and would literally insult people and took every opportunity to be rude if someone asked a question that he thought was dumb. I guess my point is that when HLG and some of the more professionally-minded light builders started showing up, it felt good. It felt good because it meant the end to the monopoly that only a few light builders were enjoying at that time. And it meant that business owners couldn't be publicly rude and unprofessional, anymore, without suffering losing their business to the competition. Customers were so hungry for GOOD customer service that when real, professional companies started providing it, it meant a lot to their success. Good lights only take you so far. Customer relations and trustworthiness are essential, as well.
Eraserhead was his name here. I was an original a51 customer. Still rock my xgs190s. Pretty good sidelights :)
 

PJ Diaz

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While I was researching LED fixtures, I noticed according to the
Manufacture's Listing @ the DesignLights Consortium that:

Mars Hydro is manufactured by:
LG-LED Solutions Limited

Spyder Farmer is manufactured by:
Shenzhen Meizhiguang Technology Co. LTD.


Why did you misrepresent my statement by cutting the quote short?
 

PJ Diaz

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LEDs omitted a lot of the spectrum, focused more on blue red and slimmer peaks.

Don't know anything, what's the width of each band on a real light bar chart then? I'll wait since you like putting everyone down and think your the know it all.
White light type diodes aren't banded the way *you're thinking specific nm diodes are.

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PJ Diaz

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Id like to amend my previous statement to gregshed cause, yes, i was somewhat rude:
Say youre living 10 years ago without saying it.
This you posted was actually helpfull to understand the point of white led light.
The Emerson stuff, sorry but that derp is all on him.
You are a gentleman and scholar.
 

Gregshed

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You seem to be talking about lights which nobody but dummys are using anymore. Evrybody left blurple behind long ago cause it compares like shit to hps. And yes, you are right about them, its just that nobody is talking about blurples anymore. Did you mention mono cromatic HPS or did i imagine it ??? Its hard to keep track of what you are actually saying. How does HPS have a fuller spectrum than white led with 2% blue? Have you seen grotbags own built light setup before digging into him?

The sun has the best emerson effect cause its a gas is non factual and sorry it shows you havent read up what it actually is or when it applies. To be clear: emerson effect is negligble at sun light intensity levels, it is only a thing in low light levels. Again your drinking from the hype coolaid with out going after facts.

What is a real light bar chart? As opposed to imaginary ones? are you saying theres like a physical property important to growing plants tied to the scaling of spectrum graphs? Are you talking about the width of the blue / red peaks? It depends on the diode, go look for the datasheet it is there if you need it.

Listen, i might have put you down and im sorry over that, i try to be nice to people everywhere, but there are very few ways of setting straight the things you say which just arent, without it being a put down.
Shit and there's me thinking you would type up the limitations of luminescent coatings, band gap diagrams on spectral emissions and give some real truths.

How does white with 2% blue have fuller spectrum, please HPS has fuller spectrum in many areas not just there, apart from uv it kicks your ass in ir and many other wavelengths.

No mars hydro mentioned hps being monochromatic yellow, I just brought that up as an example led producers will go to in rubbishing everyone and everything else. Think they got confused with low power sodium not superheating gasses.

Your lame, sites full of your arguing, little continuous spectral adjusted LEDs still have a way to go before they rival an unbalanced mixture of gasses you utter tool!
 

Rocket Soul

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Shit and there's me thinking you would type up the limitations of luminescent coatings, band gap diagrams on spectral emissions and give some real truths.

How does white with 2% blue have fuller spectrum, please HPS has fuller spectrum in many areas not just there, apart from uv it kicks your ass in ir and many other wavelengths.

No mars hydro mentioned hps being monochromatic yellow, I just brought that up as an example led producers will go to in rubbishing everyone and everything else. Think they got confused with low power sodium not superheating gasses.

Your lame, sites full of your arguing, little continuous spectral adjusted LEDs still have a way to go before they rival an unbalanced mixture of gasses you
If you feel offended i apagain
Shit and there's me thinking you would type up the limitations of luminescent coatings, band gap diagrams on spectral emissions and give some real truths.

How does white with 2% blue have fuller spectrum, please HPS has fuller spectrum in many areas not just there, apart from uv it kicks your ass in ir and many other wavelengths.

No mars hydro mentioned hps being monochromatic yellow, I just brought that up as an example led producers will go to in rubbishing everyone and everything else. Think they got confused with low power sodium not superheating gasses.

Your lame, sites full of your arguing, little continuous spectral adjusted LEDs still have a way to go before they rival an unbalanced mixture of gasses you utter tool!
If youre offended ill apologize again, i feel no gain in making other people feel bad. I wish you and your gases a happy growing future, best regards. Ignore, unsubb, does anyone feel better after posting in this thread?
 

0potato0

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Shit and there's me thinking you would type up the limitations of luminescent coatings, band gap diagrams on spectral emissions and give some real truths.

How does white with 2% blue have fuller spectrum, please HPS has fuller spectrum in many areas not just there, apart from uv it kicks your ass in ir and many other wavelengths.

No mars hydro mentioned hps being monochromatic yellow, I just brought that up as an example led producers will go to in rubbishing everyone and everything else. Think they got confused with low power sodium not superheating gasses.

Your lame, sites full of your arguing, little continuous spectral adjusted LEDs still have a way to go before they rival an unbalanced mixture of gasses you utter tool!
In this particular sentence How does HPS have a fuller spectrum than white led with 2% blue? he (Rocket Soul ) meant that HPS has 2% blue and i don't even speak English
 

Gregshed

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If youre offended ill apologize again, i feel no gain in making other people feel bad. I wish you and your gases a happy growing future, best regards. Ignore, unsubb, does anyone feel better after posting in this thread?
Too late your original comment did just that, too bad you don't know the limitations of your luminescent coatings and what appears to be anything about band gaps but someone said there's an ignore button so maybe press it and you won't get in the situation of describing a hps light in the same realms of a blurple led instead of its full criteria.

All I need now is bk to correct my grammar and were really seeing how this community grows lol!
 

Gregshed

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In this particular sentence How does HPS have a fuller spectrum than white led with 2% blue? he (Rocket Soul ) meant that HPS has 2% blue and i don't even speak English
Because led is limited to it's gap wavelengths and hps has more wavelengths. I did say hps wasn't balanced like an led and led generate more efficiency which is why they are the best light for growing.
 
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