Got spider mites

Douglas.Curtis

Douglas.Curtis

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Olive Drab Green said:
Just because you don't doesn't mean that other people can't or don't. Most do.
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Most do and it's disgusting and completely unnecessary. The only reason people do it is out of ignorance. Ignorance what it does to people and ignorance on how to NOT have to do it.

When someone says they've been flowering without pesticides or mites in flower for 15+ years, you should pay attention. Thanks. It's completely possible to have clean cannabis, without pesticides and without bugs.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Douglas.Curtis said:
Most do and it's disgusting and completely unnecessary. The only reason people do it is out of ignorance. Ignorance what it does to people and ignorance on how to NOT have to do it.

When someone says they've been flowering without pesticides or mites in flower for 15+ years, you should pay attention. Thanks. It's completely possible to have clean cannabis, without pesticides and without bugs.
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Oh, my God, I'm done with you. Most do for a reason. If you want to smoke mites like a nasty, be my guest. I will not be.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Douglas.Curtis said:
Most do and it's disgusting and completely unnecessary. The only reason people do it is out of ignorance. Ignorance what it does to people and ignorance on how to NOT have to do it.

When someone says they've been flowering without pesticides or mites in flower for 15+ years, you should pay attention. Thanks. It's completely possible to have clean cannabis, without pesticides and without bugs.
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No, I shouldn't, because people talk shit all the time and that's why this field is full of disinformation. As far as I'm concerned, you have grown since yesterday. What I do works for me, and I have no issues with my bud.
 
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Douglas.Curtis

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Olive Drab Green said:
If your treatments are organic or are quickly destroyed by environment and time, you won't be smoking your treatment.
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Mfg recommended destruction times are wrong. Organic, Shmorganic. Aza is OMRI certified and it's crap for smoking plants. I've had significant amounts of disgusting cannabis from 'organic' treatments, same as the chemical treated crap. No thanks and it's not necessary, any of it.

We obviously, vastly disagree on the definition of clean cannabis. Keep your buds to yourself, thanks.
Seriously.
 
Douglas.Curtis

Douglas.Curtis

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Didn't read any of your posts, after my last comment. Not worth it.
I recommend the same for others. You give seriously bad advice.
I guess I'll have to start a thread on proper pest control. *sigh*

Anyone wishing to discuss this further can pm me, I'm done with this thread. ;)
 
Uberknot

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Ok.......The Spider mites are going to get into the buds and create web nests and eggs and everything.

For sure 100% I am going to treat with something and do the best I can to get rid of the little fuckers.
 
TacoMac

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Uberknot said:
Ok.......The Spider mites are going to get into the buds and create web nests and eggs and everything.

For sure 100% I am going to treat with something and do the best I can to get rid of the little fuckers.
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In the end, it's just two different schools of thought.

On the one hand, there's the thought that if it gets to that point, you're going to essentially ruin whatever product is there, so it's not worth the hassle and potential poising yourself with God only knows what's in all the things people make these days.

On the other hand, there's the "save what you can at any and all costs" crowd.

Both are legitimate approaches and have their pluses and minuses. Pick which one works best for you and use it.
 
Olive Drab Green

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TacoMac said:
In the end, it's just two different schools of thought.

On the one hand, there's the thought that if it gets to that point, you're going to essentially ruin whatever product is there, so it's not worth the hassle and potential poising yourself with God only knows what's in all the things people make these days.

On the other hand, there's the "save what you can at any and all costs" crowd.

Both are legitimate approaches and have their pluses and minuses. Pick which one works best for you and use it.
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I suppose. I'm going to choose the one that maximizes my endgame yields and omits bugs from my smoke. I suggest, strongly, that any of you consider doing the same.

By the way, you aren't going to poison yourself with organic pesticides if you aren't retarded, using toxic shit, and in particular, Neem and Dr. Earth's pesticides are not harmful to people or animals.
 
TacoMac

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Olive Drab Green said:
By the way, you aren't going to poison yourself with organic pesticides
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Just because a compound is organic does not mean it is harmless. For instance, solanine is an organic poison used quite often. If ingested or used improperly, symptoms include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, stomach cramps, burning of the throat, cardiac dysrhythmia, nightmare, headache and dizziness. In more severe cases, hallucinations, loss of sensation, paralysis, fever, jaundice, dilated pupils, hypothermia and death have been reported.

Another one is ginger. You don't get much more organic than that. In proper dosses, it too can kill you.

Organic doesn't mean harmless. It never has.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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TacoMac said:
Just because a compound is organic does not mean it is harmless. For instance, solanine is an organic poison used quite often. If ingested or used improperly, symptoms include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, stomach cramps, burning of the throat, cardiac dysrhythmia, nightmare, headache and dizziness. In more severe cases, hallucinations, loss of sensation, paralysis, fever, jaundice, dilated pupils, hypothermia and death have been reported.

Another one is ginger. You don't get much more organic than that. In proper dosses, it too can kill you.

Organic doesn't mean harmless. It never has.
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Neem and the contents of Dr. Earth's Vegetable Garden Insect Killer are harmless. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.
 
Uberknot

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TacoMac said:
Just because a compound is organic does not mean it is harmless. For instance, solanine is an organic poison used quite often. If ingested or used improperly, symptoms include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, stomach cramps, burning of the throat, cardiac dysrhythmia, nightmare, headache and dizziness. In more severe cases, hallucinations, loss of sensation, paralysis, fever, jaundice, dilated pupils, hypothermia and death have been reported.

Another one is ginger. You don't get much more organic than that. In proper dosses, it too can kill you.

Organic doesn't mean harmless. It never has.
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Basically you just need to study up and what you are using and make sure it's not toxic and don't be a complete moron and drink it..
 
Olive Drab Green

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I could probably drink this shit. I'd most likely vomit, but it's not going to kill me.

I hit a horsefly with one shot. It moved around for 20 seconds like normal before I saw it just go limp and its belly hit the floor as its legs sprawled out, like watching someone just pass out.
 
TacoMac

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Uberknot said:
Basically you just need to study up and what you are using and make sure it's not toxic and don't be a complete moron and drink it..
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That of course is true. But a point you may be missing is: Why do you think folks smoke things? Because it intensifies it's effect and makes it almost instantaneous.

The same applies to toxins. You can walk around in a building that has asbestos in it that's properly sealed for 50 years and never get lung cancer. But you walk into one that's being demolished and inhale it, and it's all over for you.

Trace amounts of a poison ingested may have little to no effect on anybody at all. But you get the right person that may be more susceptible to a given poison or have an allergy to it and they inhale it and coat their lungs with it, it's goodnight Gracy. Permanently.

For some, that's simply too large a risk to take. For others, it's an odds game that they will never be struck by lightning.

Again, either is a viable opinion. I can't for the life of me understand why all the profanity and insults are being hurled around over it.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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TacoMac said:
That of course is true. But a point you may be missing is: Why do you think folks smoke things? Because it intensifies it's effect and makes it almost instantaneous.

The same applies to toxins. You can walk around in a building that has asbestos in it that's properly sealed for 50 years and never get lung cancer. But you walk into one that's being demolished and inhale it, and it's all over for you.

Trace amounts of a poison ingested may have little to no effect on anybody at all. But you get the right person that may be more susceptible to a given poison or have an allergy to it and they inhale it and coat their lungs with it, it's goodnight Gracy. Permanently.

For some, that's simply too large a risk to take. For others, it's an odds game that they will never be struck by lightning.

Again, either is a viable opinion. I can't for the life of me understand why all the profanity and insults are being hurled around over it.
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You aren't listening. Not every insecticide is toxic to humans, so it doesn't matter if you inhale it, regardless of the amount used. Like Dr. Earth or neem oil, for instance.
 
Uberknot

Uberknot

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TacoMac said:
That of course is true. But a point you may be missing is: Why do you think folks smoke things? Because it intensifies it's effect and makes it almost instantaneous.

The same applies to toxins. You can walk around in a building that has asbestos in it that's properly sealed for 50 years and never get lung cancer. But you walk into one that's being demolished and inhale it, and it's all over for you.

Trace amounts of a poison ingested may have little to no effect on anybody at all. But you get the right person that may be more susceptible to a given poison or have an allergy to it and they inhale it and coat their lungs with it, it's goodnight Gracy. Permanently.

For some, that's simply too large a risk to take. For others, it's an odds game that they will never be struck by lightning.

Again, either is a viable opinion. I can't for the life of me understand why all the profanity and insults are being hurled around over it.
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And in some cases nothing will happen at all because someone is a smart grower and knows the differences.......

Hell you can make the case you could walk outside and get a drift of anthrax.....

The Point is somethings you can use are NOT GOING TO KILL YOU......not even in the slightest.

But sure if I start spraying raid in copious amounts all over my buds and then smoke it there might be a problem...................
 
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