Got the spider mites recommendation on sprays

steveydvee

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Looking at lost coast plant therapy, green cleaner and floramite. Deploying predators mid flower. Been using neem oil but it’s just not enough. Looking for multiple modes of action. Hit me with some knowledge, appreciate y’all!!
 

Rurumo

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I'm using citric acid right now in one of my tents, working great so far, it's definitely going back into my IPM rotation
 

Grojaks

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Azamax has worked for me, you’ll need more than just 1 spray though. Pretty much any safe product is going to need more than 1 spray
 

Rurumo

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Azamax has worked for me, you’ll need more than just 1 spray though. Pretty much any safe product is going to need more than 1 spray
You are right, I should have mentioned that. I'll be spraying every other day for 10 days. Spray EVERY leaf surface, especially underneath. You also need to spray the entire tent, clean the trays, the pots, and treat the soil. Just don't soak your roots in the citric acid spray! I usually do a root drench with neem, just so I have something working in the soil. If you are really diligent, you can get rid of them pretty quickly.
 

OneMoreRip

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I would blast it with water first, from the underside. If in a smaller pot you can put the pot in a plastic bag to avoid disturbing anything. Just use a hose and be somewhat aggressive. Plants survive pretty rough weather outside.

Doing that a few times over a week or so could solve the problem at worst make it easier to manage, going off my encounters with them anyways. A couple neem applications should finish them off after spraying with water.

I always neem a plant right before flowering takes off because a lot of mites in my area.

I would use/try peppermint spray but I wasn’t able to get peppermint to grow and I have used jalapeños with water but the results were inconclusive, at best.
 
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jonnynobody

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2-3 tsp(citric acid) per quart of water works better then green cleaner and you can spray during flower
Can citric acid cause leaf damage to young plants? I applied 3tsp/quart and the big plants didn't seem to mind it much but my smaller plants didn't respond well. The foliage was a little damaged the next day. Not horrendously, but observable. Usually I half any recommendation for pesticide on the first application and I failed to do so with the citric acid. I'd love to apply it again because I hear it works very well. I've noticed a dramatic reduction in mite eggs present on the foliage so I'd love to get the concentration dialed in properly for small ladies.

I'm glad you made this post because I almost bought an 8oz bottle of green cleaner. Horribly overpriced product. 8oz only makes 4 gallons and it was something like $33 on amazon. That'd barely cover my flower room twice. The ingredients seem like a mix of citric acid and insecticidal soap. I fried the shit outta many plants in my attempt to use safer soap. Even at 1/2 the recommended rate it fried the hell out of plants. I noticed several reviewers on amazon reporting fried plants after application of GC. Just say no to insecticidal soap. Bad stuff and one of the key ingredients in GC. No wonder people are frying their plants using it. I've caused more damage to my plants monkeying with insecticidal soaps than any other pesticide I've used. Sorry about the rant :) Thanks for any info you can send my way dude.
 

Rurumo

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Can citric acid cause leaf damage to young plants? I applied 3tsp/quart and the big plants didn't seem to mind it much but my smaller plants didn't respond well. The foliage was a little damaged the next day. Not horrendously, but observable. Usually I half any recommendation for pesticide on the first application and I failed to do so with the citric acid. I'd love to apply it again because I hear it works very well. I've noticed a dramatic reduction in mite eggs present on the foliage so I'd love to get the concentration dialed in properly for small ladies.

I'm glad you made this post because I almost bought an 8oz bottle of green cleaner. Horribly overpriced product. 8oz only makes 4 gallons and it was something like $33 on amazon. That'd barely cover my flower room twice. The ingredients seem like a mix of citric acid and insecticidal soap. I fried the shit outta many plants in my attempt to use safer soap. Even at 1/2 the recommended rate it fried the hell out of plants. I noticed several reviewers on amazon reporting fried plants after application of GC. Just say no to insecticidal soap. Bad stuff and one of the key ingredients in GC. No wonder people are frying their plants using it. I've caused more damage to my plants monkeying with insecticidal soaps than any other pesticide I've used. Sorry about the rant :) Thanks for any info you can send my way dude.
I treated mine with 3 tsp citric acid every other day for 10 days, and it did slightly damage the leaves, but the plants recovered very quickly. This was a few weeks ago and I haven't seen a trace of mites. I'd still like to try out predatory mites, maybe next time.
 

jonnynobody

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You are right, I should have mentioned that. I'll be spraying every other day for 10 days. Spray EVERY leaf surface, especially underneath. You also need to spray the entire tent, clean the trays, the pots, and treat the soil. Just don't soak your roots in the citric acid spray! I usually do a root drench with neem, just so I have something working in the soil. If you are really diligent, you can get rid of them pretty quickly.
I almost bought some azamax until I saw the price related to it's application rate. 16oz bottle for $54.99 and it makes 8 gallons at the 2oz/gallon application rate. That's effing brutal man. I checked out azaguard and it seems like a better option for cost effectiveness @3% Azadirachtin

$159.99 for a quart and it makes approximately 200 gallons of solution at 4.73ml/gallon. General Hydroponics is straight fucking people on their azamax product. 24 gallons of azamax for $165 or 200 gallons of the same ingredient in commercial form for $159.99. Tough choice eh? :)
 

jonnynobody

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I treated mine with 3 tsp citric acid every other day for 10 days, and it did slightly damage the leaves, but the plants recovered very quickly. This was a few weeks ago and I haven't seen a trace of mites. I'd still like to try out predatory mites, maybe next time.
I also observed the same. All plants perked up quickly afterwards. 1 very sensitive strain I have took a few more days but all is well. A small price to pay for mite eradication. I'll swerve the 2tsp/qt next time and see how it treats a small test plant. If all goes well I'll hose 'em all down @2tsp/qt moving forward. I finally got in the habit of actually testing new pesticides on a control plant I don't mind damaging. Better to ruin 1 plant than the whole garden. I've suffered a total loss before monkeying with that neem oil. Of course I sprayed the whole lot of plants. Fried the foliage and lost them all. That was years ago and it still hurts. Never again. I like the refined Azadirachtin products. I can never get that neem to emulsify no matter what I do.
 

Mari.baba

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Looking at lost coast plant therapy, green cleaner and floramite. Deploying predators mid flower. Been using neem oil but it’s just not enough. Looking for multiple modes of action. Hit me with some knowledge, appreciate y’all!!
Ok firstly are you growing indoors or outdoors?
 
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