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SSHZ

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Nope.........Shanitbabba says it's N.L. #1 X N.L. #5. Nevil claims it's actually a hybrid of different Maple Leaf Indica pheno's. It was named after Jim Ortega (Dogless is another name he goes under) whom he got the strains from. I've done a lot of research on the subject and still can't get a definitive answer. Either way, if you can get passed the hermie issue while growing it (some do, some don't), the smoke is killer and reminds everyone of their 1980's smoking days. Very strong.
 

budbro18

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The kings kush is lookin really nice for me! And the round after this is gonna be even better.

Shootin for 8oz off this harvest and about a LB off the next.

They are made to be topped and fim'd. I cant wait til they start exploding!

If i didnt dry in my flower tent i would have thrown them in a week ago.

but im glad i didnt so i could LST all the tops that i made haha. Looks like itll be a good producer with some killa smoke.
 

bassman999

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Nope.........Shanitbabba says it's N.L. #1 X N.L. #5. Nevil claims it's actually a hybrid of different Maple Leaf Indica pheno's. It was named after Jim Ortega (Dogless is another name he goes under) whom he got the strains from. I've done a lot of research on the subject and still can't get a definitive answer. Either way, if you can get passed the hermie issue while growing it (some do, some don't), the smoke is killer and reminds everyone of their 1980's smoking days. Very strong.
2 genetics from different breeders.


I guess there are different versions.


I respect the breeder you have shown more though.
[h=2]Details[/h] Black Domina is a pure Cannabis Indica hybrid made by selectively crossing an Afghani Indica x Canadian Ortega and Northern Lights x Hash Plant, This resulted in a powerful, compact cannabis strain that is great for indoor cultivation. A tight and compact body that is fast flowering with heavy yields makes this an ideal strain for the S.O.G. method. These seductive ladies exhibit wide broad leaves, heavy, dense buds with large bracts, and are dripping with sticky resin. Black Domina's plump buds have a rich fragrance of spiced fruit mixed with a bite of peppery hash. The taste is of a sweet candied hash and has a pleasantly overpowering physical effect.


[h=2]Additional Information[/h]
BreederSensi Seeds
GeneticsAfghani Indica x Canadian Ortega and Northern Lights x Hash Plant
Pack Size10 Seeds
VarietyPure Indica
SexRegular
THC ContentUnknown
GrowsGrows indoors
Flowering Time7 Weeks
Harvest MonthSeptember


A different source
[h=2]Strain Lineage / Genealogy / Family Tree[/h]
 

SSHZ

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Yes, different Ortega's for sure. But you know Shanti and Nevil are partners at Mr. Nice Seeds, right? Jim Ortega does various projects with numerous people, and I'm guessing Sensi is using something else from him to produce Blk. Domina. Funny the description says "tight and compact body"........mine were totally different. And 7 weeks flowering is a joke too.
 

bassman999

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Yes, different Ortega's for sure. But you know Shanti and Nevil are partners at Mr. Nice Seeds, right? Jim Ortega does various projects with numerous people, and I'm guessing Sensi is using something else from him to produce Blk. Domina. Funny the description says "tight and compact body"........mine were totally different. And 7 weeks flowering is a joke too.
I know they say short times to make us purchase em.

My white rhino was not tight at all and why I dumper her, and I think the description said it would be
Might be she didnt like outside and 115*?? lol
Actually inside the greenhouse was even higher.

AnywayI have a Dr Atomic NL that I am flowering right now, and I hope she isnt a light yielder.
The one I ran outside here at my new place was a flop as were all the diff strains outside, but the smoke was great actually.
I have plans for some night time shade to make the OD this yr a success like yrs past in my light dep greenhouse.

I dont know anything about Jim Ortega honestly which is surprising.
 

SSHZ

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I know Jim Ortega is still active on some sites, now known as "Dogless", I see people claiming to be using his stuff currently and Nevil continues to mention him and states "all pot smokers owe him a lot"..........some of Nevil's original breeding material came from him.

I once ordered Dr. Atomic N.L. and grew it out to be some 7+ ft. monster plants. Total bullshit. Reeferman, at the same time, also ordered some to use in his breeding programs. He got the same results as me and when he questioned Dr Atomic about it- he admitted he was sending out N.L. X Haze instead since he ran out of stock on the straight N.L. I swore I would never order anything from him again, but I do see good things about his N.L., except it's a poor yielder.

This will be the first year I'll be putting something outside in a long time. I'll put them out late, maybe end of June to control height and overall size. I own a load of Nirvana's "Blueberry Gum" and these might be perfect to use up before they get old...........
 

bassman999

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I know Jim Ortega is still active on some sites, now known as "Dogless", I see people claiming to be using his stuff currently and Nevil continues to mention him and states "all pot smokers owe him a lot"..........some of Nevil's original breeding material came from him.

I once ordered Dr. Atomic N.L. and grew it out to be some 7+ ft. monster plants. Total bullshit. Reeferman, at the same time, also ordered some to use in his breeding programs. He got the same results as me and when he questioned Dr Atomic about it- he admitted he was sending out N.L. X Haze instead since he ran out of stock on the straight N.L. I swore I would never order anything from him again, but I do see good things about his N.L., except it's a poor yielder.

This will be the first year I'll be putting something outside in a long time. I'll put them out late, maybe end of June to control height and overall size. I own a load of Nirvana's "Blueberry Gum" and these might be perfect to use up before they get old...........
Mine seems like a stretcher..I hope its not any haze shit in there.
I got mine like most from clones.

Ihave seen his handle several times on forums if hes Dogless.

I have seen some really great grows on forums of Dr Atomics NL, but it might be fake or a MAGIC pheno.

I just hope I get a few good keepers out of this run to make up for the super hassle it is turnng into
 

bassman999

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The kings kush is lookin really nice for me! And the round after this is gonna be even better.

Shootin for 8oz off this harvest and about a LB off the next.

They are made to be topped and fim'd. I cant wait til they start exploding!

If i didnt dry in my flower tent i would have thrown them in a week ago.

but im glad i didnt so i could LST all the tops that i made haha. Looks like itll be a good producer with some killa smoke.
I think 8 will be right on track maybe a lil more.
def coulda vegged em bigger, but like u said next time you know she doesnt double or triple in flower.
I think the smoke will be good from her.
On another thread I frequent several people are talking about this strain as well.
 

budbro18

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Hell yeah thanks! i realized the other day the front ones are 2 weeks younger than the back two and they look like bigger producers.

I wish i woulda let those go for another 2 weeks.

But onto the next one.

Thanks for the confidence.

Sometimes i think im imagining things because of what my expectations are and what reality is haha.
 

bassman999

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Hell yeah thanks! i realized the other day the front ones are 2 weeks younger than the back two and they look like bigger producers.

I wish i woulda let those go for another 2 weeks.

But onto the next one.

Thanks for the confidence.

Sometimes i think im imagining things because of what my expectations are and what reality is haha.
U should have some solid nugs as they are open on all sides and get light all through out.

I over veg usually, and I also flower way longer that the web info says on all strains.
I just tend to over due things I guess.

I always have trouble fitting all my plants by mid-end of flowering
 

budbro18

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haha i feel it.

I usually dont trust the estimated times on strains but always like to see where theyre at when theyre claimed to be done.

They said this was an 8-9 week strain an i think i hit it right on the 9. haha

Day 65...i think? so just over 9 weeks. Plus the few days in the dark.

I always let my seeds run longer than clones.

For some reason when i take them from clone theyre done 3-5 days sooner.


haha did you realize were talking about the kings kush on the grape god thread and the grape god on the kings kush thread hahahaha

only stoners.
 

bassman999

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haha i feel it.

I usually dont trust the estimated times on strains but always like to see where theyre at when theyre claimed to be done.

They said this was an 8-9 week strain an i think i hit it right on the 9. haha

Day 65...i think? so just over 9 weeks. Plus the few days in the dark.

I always let my seeds run longer than clones.

For some reason when i take them from clone theyre done 3-5 days sooner.


haha did you realize were talking about the kings kush on the grape god thread and the grape god on the kings kush thread hahahaha

only stoners.
I was thinking that b4 after my girl got on the computer.

I hve noticed if I ws to pull at the estimated times I miss a lil last minute swell.

I havent run too many seeds to compare yet.
 

SSHZ

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haha i feel it.

I usually dont trust the estimated times on strains but always like to see where theyre at when theyre claimed to be done.

They said this was an 8-9 week strain an i think i hit it right on the 9. haha

Day 65...i think? so just over 9 weeks. Plus the few days in the dark.

I always let my seeds run longer than clones.

For some reason when i take them from clone theyre done 3-5 days sooner.


haha did you realize were talking about the kings kush on the grape god thread and the grape god on the kings kush thread hahahaha

only stoners.

Clones take on the age of the parent mother. Anotherwards, if the mother plant is 1 year old, so is any clones from her. And it's proven that the OLDER a plant is, the faster she will flower. So, clones will finish before seeded plants. Typically, my clones finish about 1 week sooner than plants from seeds.
 

bassman999

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Clones take on the age of the parent mother. Anotherwards, if the mother plant is 1 year old, so is any clones from her. And it's proven that the OLDER a plant is, the faster she will flower. So, clones will finish before seeded plants. Typically, my clones finish about 1 week sooner than plants from seeds.
Yah have noticed some clones were showing preflowers earlier in 12/12
My Grape Krush mom is 2 yrs old now
 

budbro18

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Thanks for the info!

That back left side is lookin crazy haha. well the whole place is lookin crazy but the back left are some tall bitches.
 

indyboarder57

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Hey bud bro, taking advantage of your advice and letting my grape god flower for at least sixty days. I chopped my first one down (due to being really low on bud). The second girl is at day 56, and already the sugar coating, weight (super dense for a small plant) and smell are through the roof. Luckily I had one clone that survived and is thriving. I only got 5 fem seeds from next gen, all sprouted. But 2 did that stuck helmet thing and then shriveled at the first leaves. I have one last seedling sprouting, but I notice it does take awhile for a veg with this strain. Definatly A+ strain, good results with dyna fert on this one.
 

budbro18

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Thanks! yeah it only really needs a few weeks in veg before its ready.

stretches a decent amount but just as much as you want.

Mine were actually falling over towards the end of flowering because the stems were so skinny and the buds were so dense!

Feel free to throw some pictures up on here.


My grape god started as a single seed i got as a "one and done" strain.

But after most of my other seeds didnt germ i had to use her as my main mother.
 

SSHZ

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Day 23 flowering.....been a little bummed over the last few days- a few of the plants that really reacted poorly to the silica over-dose and are behind and look poor due to the leaf damage as the final result. In the enclosed pic if u notice first row, 2nd plant from left is a prime result- distorted leaves, slow development, etc. I'm a perfectionist and get pissed when something fucks up. At least I didn't lose the room which would have been a disaster. From now on, when I use silica- it will be at 1/2 dose. But understand the majority of the room is doing great, very healthy and buds are forming everywhere. Still no smell or maybe my new Canna filter is working great- I did go in and clean out some dead and dying leaves around the pots- and I smelled like a grapefruit when I was done. VERY NOTICEABLE, which I'm happy to see and report. To address some other comments, my plan right now is to go to 62-65 days. 60 may be a bit short if you want some amber I'm guessing. I think from what I've read- there are 2 main pheno's one done around 55 days and another 7-10 days later. And then a green pheno, and a rare purple pheno. I see people picking it early, and others late. I'm growing enough plants, 22 right now, I should see most everything. The 2 nicest plants in the room are 1) back row, most left and tallest plant and 2) plant right in front of it. Both are very healthy, and appear to be heavier yielders, they just are standing out right now........
 

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bassman999

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Day 23 flowering.....been a little bummed over the last few days- a few of the plants that really reacted poorly to the silica over-dose and are behind and look poor due to the leaf damage as the final result. In the enclosed pic if u notice first row, 2nd plant from left is a prime result- distorted leaves, slow development, etc. I'm a perfectionist and get pissed when something fucks up. At least I didn't lose the room which would have been a disaster. From now on, when I use silica- it will be at 1/2 dose. But understand the majority of the room is doing great, very healthy and buds are forming everywhere. Still no smell or maybe my new Canna filter is working great- I did go in and clean out some dead and dying leaves around the pots- and I smelled like a grapefruit when I was done. VERY NOTICEABLE, which I'm happy to see and report. To address some other comments, my plan right now is to go to 62-65 days. 60 may be a bit short if you want some amber I'm guessing. I think from what I've read- there are 2 main pheno's one done around 55 days and another 7-10 days later. And then a green pheno, and a rare purple pheno. I see people picking it early, and others late. I'm growing enough plants, 22 right now, I should see most everything. The 2 nicest plants in the room are 1) back row, most left and tallest plant and 2) plant right in front of it. Both are very healthy, and appear to be heavier yielders, they just are standing out right now........
Glad yo hear your gilrs are doing better for the most part!
They look good in the pic!

I have found 2 lil moths flying around in my veg tent.
The new ferts I bought dont seem to be doing too great, or they are just really suffering from overcrowding and mites.
Several are losing their green, and I added some high N fert to them and they responded immediately with some increased smells and flower size.
I also have trouble getting them under the lights as they are (some of them) too tall.
I think I might just scrap this whole grow.
Even the temp/humidity in the garage is hard to maintain and it isnt even hot yet.
 
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