great white v.S roots excelurator

pk_boosted2

pk_boosted2

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Like i said before u got a warehouse u shud b makin millions. 4 light runs pull 100k enough said later newbie
 
hydroMD

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legallyflying said:
As usually. The hydro store person is incorrect. Roots exc is not a sterilzer. If it was a sterizer then why can't you use airstones with it.

There is a tremendous amount of research that shows the befits of using beneficial bacteria and fungus. Not so much with roots exc as they don't tell you what is exactly in it. Plus it's fucking stupid expensive.

Stick with beneficialls. Better yet, pick up the OGbiowar benies they are cheaper and contain a shit ton more spore counts (with more diverse species).

Happy growing
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Are you not suppose to use air stones wirh roots excel?

Lol i got buddies that use it religously in dwc... hooe they arent wasting that $5 ml of mystery ish :)


pk_boosted2 said:
Hey bud roots excel is a sort of sterilizer, it promotes a barrier between your roots and harmful bacteria and pathogens while promoting robust root growth similar oroducts are the old aqua shield, think called hydro guard now from botanicare.

Roots excell def the shit best product of its kind on the market, even the competitors agree and have actually removed their root innoculants from their line ups until they can come up w something comparable or better which noone has formulated yet, its def pricey but there isnt a grow i do that roots excel isnt used on. I use it on all my runs extensively, and its worth every penny imo. Theres nothing like it period.
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Have you tried a side by side?
 
Carolina Dream'n

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hydroMD said:
Are you not suppose to use air stones wirh roots excel?

Lol i got buddies that use it religously in dwc... hooe they arent wasting that $5 ml of mystery ish :)




Have you tried a side by side?
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Roots excel just released the hydroponic version (silver bottle). It's supposed to be able to used with air stones. Makes a fucking mess in Rez though.
 
hydroMD

hydroMD

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legallyflying said:
This guy is nothing more than an ass clown troll.

Organic nutes in hydro? Benefitial tea a waste in hydro?
Shit... even RE in hydro is a BAD IDEA. THAT SHIT WILL SLUDGE YOUR SHIT UP LIKE NOTHING IN THE MARKET.

This dude is just a fucking liar. I searched through his posts.. all kind of douche bag shit. He was even downloading pics from the net, claiming they are his, then coming out and saying "se how stupid you are, those arn't even my pics".

Who the fuck does that shit?

And no, all the beneficial products are not the same, it's about the number and diversity of propagules per gram. Do a little homework and you will see that OG is FAR superior.

But more to the point.. didn't you say you were done with this forum?? Do everyone a favor and go clean your room before your mom gets really upset.
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Meh, i have had many successful organic hydro runs. Besides a little sediment that you need to clean betwen rounds from your containers its my favorite method of growing :)

I get my subliminal organic bias that enhances taste, smell and high
 
chuck estevez

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pk_boosted2 said:
Maybe where u at i get 3500 on average for mine. So even at 3k a piece that 90k+. And thats only 4 lights buddy. U said a warehouse u shud b making millions w a warehouse.

My "boy" wink wink has 36 lights in 4 quadrants of 9k watts each on 2 week harvests. Anywhere from 15-20 units per quad every 2 weeks with one perpetual veg and bloom room. So lets just call that $3k per lbs on low end where Im at so now ur talking 30-40 units per month comes out to 90k-120k per month.

Electricity per month is a little over 3500$ per month. So u can just basically subtract 1 lbs per month off tab which does nothing.

The rent is $4500 per month lets call that 2 lbs so now where at 3 per month out of 30-40 lbs.

Nutrients get bought at wholesale by the drum for pennies on the dollar. I think it costs roughly 1800-2000$ per month depending on nutrients running. So well call that another 3/4-1 lbs just for good measure. So rounding up that 3.5/4 lbs max off every run for expenses out of 30-40 lbs which Ill round up again and call it 10%. U multiply that by 12 months out of the year we can round that number down and call it simply 10 months give or take any hiccups or issues multiplied by 90-120k is between 900,000-1.2 million and this is only at 10 months including expenses i drastically inflated just for good measure.

U wanna talk about a warehouse like this other dude speakin about with 80k watts. Ur talking about even if he got only 1.5 lbs per light thats 120 lbs every 2 months. Multiply that on low end at 2500$ per unit thats a profit of 300k every run. And thats low end. U get 2lbs per light at 3k per unit thats 160 units at 480k every 2 months u can turn that over 5x per year ur talking multi millions.

So ur an idiot
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pk_boosted2

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Carolina Dream'n said:
What nutrients are you using?
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Past few runs Ive been running primarily botanicare pure blend bases, silica, calmag, hydroplex, roots excel, great white, atami bloombastic

And the other im running Rock Nutrients, its only a base one part, absorbalight, root innoculant and a bloom booster.
 
pk_boosted2

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legallyflying said:
Ohhh BTW... the monthly cost of running our WH is around 12k.

Not that this dipshit really knows anything about the industry.
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Yah 12k a month for everything: rent, electricity, nutrients and labor if u got a helper or two. Thats only 4 units when ur pulling down 10x's that amount what does 12k matter? IF u got the means and place to do it, than more power to yah. 12k a month is nothing compared to return on investment thats a drop in the bucket man.
 
pk_boosted2

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If u buy in bulk in 5 gallon drums shit lasts for multiple runs. And its dirt cheap for what u get, like i was saying nutrients per room doing 4 lights costs well under a G. If i broke it all down by the lights per room i think it comes out to 125-170$ per light roughly. Which is nothing.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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pk_boosted2 said:
Lol. Ok buddy. Youre right Ive never used anything for myself.

All good Im actually done on this site. I never met soo many broke growers and haters in my life. Instead of listening to someone with a decade of growing experience and someone who been in the industry for a long time, u just wanna talk shit cuz products that are designed specifically for growing MJ must not work at all right? Lol.

There must be about 2-3 million braindead and brainwashed growers in the country who all swear by Roots Excel. But Im an idiot? lol.. I think u need to take a look in a mirror.

But than again ur also proly one of the idiots on here that thinks Dyna Gro and Jack Classic produces better flowers than Canna too. So maybe I should keep that in mind
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pk_boosted2

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If u get the bloombastic by the gallon and a half $6-650 roughly and u get the roots by the litre $150 than u save alot of money up front. The bases arent much I forget off hand i think only $120 or so for 5 gallons. And the rest of the shit u get in gallons and its cheap as hell. The 5 gallon drums of BP lasts about 2-2.5 runs on 8 lights depending. Only thing that gets pricey to a point is great white but u dont need run it alot anyways.

Other than that only big expenses is Sunshine #4. I have use about 5-6 bales per run about depending what container i go with so thats a few bills but not much.
 
Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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pk_boosted2 said:
If u get the bloombastic by the gallon and a half $6-650 roughly and u get the roots by the litre $150 than u save alot of money up front. The bases arent much I forget off hand i think only $120 or so for 5 gallons. And the rest of the shit u get in gallons and its cheap as hell. The 5 gallon drums of BP lasts about 2-2.5 runs on 8 lights depending. Only thing that gets pricey to a point is great white but u dont need run it alot anyways.

Other than that only big expenses is Sunshine #4. I have use about 5-6 bales per run about depending what container i go with so thats a few bills but not much.
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You get roots excel for 150 a liter? It's like 260 where I am at.
 
pk_boosted2

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Carolina Dream'n said:
You get roots excel for 150 a liter? It's like 260 where I am at.
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Yeah right around there give or take a few dollars. U can also get online for that price as well. Most good shops if they do alot of business will price match at least my boy does out here, and anything at list cost if ur a repeat customer does 10% off every sale over 100$. And 15% over 500$.

U got be priced competitive w online stores if u wanna stay in business these days there no way around it. Obv if u gonna drop ship cost is always less, in store is always more but if u a big shopper anyone will work w u ** (at least they shud if they do good business).
 
Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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pk_boosted2 said:
Yeah right around there give or take a few dollars. U can also get online for that price as well. Most good shops if they do alot of business will price match at least my boy does out here, and anything at list cost if ur a repeat customer does 10% off every sale over 100$. And 15% over 500$.

U got be priced competitive w online stores if u wanna stay in business these days there no way around it. Obv if u gonna drop ship cost is always less, in store is always more but if u a big shopper anyone will work w u ** (at least they shud if they do good business).
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The shop I go to gives a standing 10-20 % discount on all purchases after you have spent some money their. Idk if your in a legal state, im not. Stuff seems to be more expensive here.
 
pk_boosted2

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Anything at the store is usually between 50-100% mark up. Only thing that u dont make money is the one time items like the hoods, ballasts etc. U b lucky make like 20-25% on most of those items. Shit like soil, mediums, hydrotin shit like that is 100%. Nutrients range big time depending on how big ur orders are and if u hit minimum and dont got pay for shipping which gets expensive w big jugs of nutrients. But mostly stores make 100% or more on most items, except AN. They r expensive even @ wholesale compared to most other companies. So always kp that in mind cuz if they sellin shit for 250 they proly paid 125 for it, and if u shop alot they shud hook it up and at least match or come close to online numbers or tell em u go somewhere else in a nice manner, works wonders cuz its a niche market and stores cant afford to lose customers, especially smaller shops. Promise that.
 
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