Green Refuge
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And save A LOT of time. I've used blumat carrots before, they work well but you still have to mix, ph and all that stuff. Plus they're not perlite friendly.
Grow Dots Anyone?
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Johiem
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That one i posted was a GrowDots and recharge in coco. I would have more but the bugs got to both of my flower tents and I had to clear them out. I've got one a couple weeks out from harvest that I can get a shot of when they wake up. In fact my whole grow is using Dots and Recharge. And has been for more than a year.
NOTE! just because you can get lazy about the feedings doesn't mean you get to be lazy about pest management!
Well, I’ve now completed five grows with Grow Dots, 18 plants….I grow 95% autos in CoM Stonington blend mixed with 30% Coco Loco and I have mixed feelings about the results. Yes, the grow is really easy from a nutrient standpoint, just add good ph’d water. In the beginning I used Recharge once a week when watering every two days. To be honest, the yields weren’t that good. In strains (same seeds batch) that I’ve grown with Jacks, the yield was about half the weight with a number of White Widow Plants. We all know seeds vary, but I grew nine plants with similar results. After the first three plants, I increased the amount of dots to 65g per 3 gallon fabric pots. Similar results. The next grow was was the same 65g of dots but used recharge every other watering. Similar results.
The next six plant grow was 90g of dots and Recharge every watering. I got a little leaf burn early on in the grow, but it finally stopped after about 3 weeks. The one tent had two different auto strains that grew squatty with fat buds, but after drying, they only yielded 2-3 ….but I honestly think that was the genetics, not any lack of nutrients.
Now the second tent was a f*ck up. I thought I ordered blue cheese autos but ordered them in photos. I realized my mistake about eight weeks in when they didn’t flower. I went back to my receipt and saw my error. But at this point I had 90g in the three 3 gallon pots being watered with Recharge every watering for a much longer grow time. Once they got over the initial burn they did OK…but nothing spectacular. The yield of those three netted me 11 zips after drying…Not a good return on three plants on a five month grow. I haven’t poured out the soil in pots on the last grow to see if there were any indisolved dots left….which I usually find after using them.
There is no argument that using them is easier…and I still will use it in the Summer months when I’m busier and don’t have as much time to spend playing with the plants in my 3 tents. But it’s obvious in my jackweed opinion that it’s not as good as a more intensive nutrient regimen.
DrOgkush
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Their discord has 1000s of members using them. And with huge success. Random people all over really use them really. Great for beginners. I don’t like em anymore because it’s a time release Nute. Veg first 4 weeks. Flower final 10. It doesn’t justify for any other frame and if you grow outside that frame. Your going to run into deficiency problems. But if you wanna run 4 weeks veg then flip. They DO work like they’re supposed to.
breedwheel
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I have never tried grow dots and don't intend to because I grow hydro mostly. I have listened to a lot of wake and bake since I turned off the news and my big turn off about these are they are pushing growing organically in coco coir. Just add in 30% of worm castings to your coco/perlite mix and you have instant living soil with grow dots??? Not sure about that
I am not knocking the dots or that guy scotty--I actually like listening to him and learned a lot over the years. I can see this being a very good tool for someone who may want to grow a few auto's every now and then with minimal effort. Not everyone is interested in reading what is the best uptake pH range for calcium and playing with their plants a lot.
This stuff reminds me of the Dr. Earth I used in my garden to grow dwarf tomatoes in pots. Good stuff too.
weedstoner420
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Sorry if this has already been addressed, but what is the difference between these things and Osmocote, which can be had for $9/lb at the hardware store?
Johiem
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Just look up "Scotty Real"on YouTube. The man mixes and sells them, you think he's not going to have success stories lined up for you to see. Or here's a suggestion. Try it. Scotty's got a single plant size available for 10 or 15 bucks. Most of us have thrown away much more than that in a plant. As I've said will it get you the best of the best? No but it will get most hybrid strains to the finish line. If you're into those long flowering sativas this may not be your best option, but it is simple.
DrOgkush
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Here’s some discord members grows. Not mine. Emilio dank and budzbydubz I think. Plus there is countless journals on there. I dont like the time release. Alot of people use them in coco. Iv seen some good results. But ima not gonna copy and paste everything from discord. I’m sure you can find people have great results. Then your going to find people who just completely failed.
I don’t really care for them like I used to. I thought they were the shit until I realized their veg strength is good for 4 weeks. And that’s it.
I don’t really care for them like I used to. I thought they were the shit until I realized their veg strength is good for 4 weeks. And that’s it.
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DrOgkush
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If you just wanna veg for 6-9 weeks. These will put you in a terrible place fast lol. 4 week veg. 10 week flower. That’s is. Anything more you have to add something. The formula is not equipped for long term
Green Refuge
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I vegged for 4-5 weeks then I transplanted into the dots. First week they struggled a bit until they reached the bottom of the self water pot but they're okay right now. They're definitely drinking more water than I thought. I refill the pots every 2 days. Are they as healthy as they were under full athena pro line ? Not yet but they're getting better by the day. Is it worth the trade of having to feed/water everyday? Absolutely.
Tejashidrow
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If you have not heard of many success stories with Growdots yet, it just means your not listening.
Tejashidrow
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You are correct. Grow dots was formulated to be used with clones, indoor, that only need 4-5 week veg.
that it works so well with autos was a unexpected bonus.
With the new Grow Dots. Extended that gives 8-10 weeks veg, longer EASIER outdoor grows are now possible
DrOgkush
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Grow dots have nothing to do with how often you
Water? That’s the media choice.
if you run a fast cycle. Grow dots work. Like any other fertilizer. Don’t over do it and you’re fine. So many failure stories because people get excited like it’s a super food.( Over feed and over water) It’s not. It’s just a food. Like the rest. Treat it that way. And you’ll see success. Like the rest.
They are what they are. A SLOW RELEASE fertilizer that switches to flowering strength after so many weeks.
Green Refuge
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With salts I have to top water/feed 2 times a day. With grow dots I water once every 3-4 days. I use self watering it doesn't work too well for me with fast release like athena. Grow dots aren't perfect for bottom watering either but they work better than athena in my personal experience. Athena top feed gives me maximum results just don't have the time for it.
chefjeff1
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I've been using Growdots and also the company's Recharge in my 3 gallon cloth pots for over a year. My plants have been very healthy and nothing has been this easy for me....today a friend suggested that in flowering I could add some sort of liquid bloom formula, which I had never even thought about. If anyone here thinks it might be a good thing or not, I'm interested in hearing.
Johiem
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I'd only add something if it looks like they need it. You can definitely grow awesome weed with it or without it, just without it there's more measuring, then Ph balancing, then Ph drift, nutrition precipitates falling out, Grow Dots does what they say "Takes the guesswork out of growing good cannabis" - Scotty Real
Will Grow Dots give you the ultimate expression of that particular plant? Probably not. You can add to the Dots whatever you like, just be careful of duplicitive amendments. I can see adding a bit of a bloom enhancer maybe, and of course more cal-mag of your in coco. Although the newest formulation is supposed to have doubled the calcium, and magnesium.
Hmm I do have some "Flower Girl" sitting over there, maybe?
As long as it isn't absolutely vital that your grow succeed, experiment, play around with feeding your girls. You may find their ultimate buffet and they just explode, or you may just be throwing money out the window. Without experimentation and documentation knowledge will never expand.
Slap your lab coat on, and get mixy with it!