Growing shrooms and weed together???

While i am growing some bud, i tried to brainstorm different ways to enhance the CO2 level within my room. Apparently, mushrooms produces co2 as they grow, and we all know that marijuana needs co2. so would it be possible to grow some shrooms and vent the co2 to the weed? wouldnt that be a mutualistic relationship for both the shrooms and the weed?? hahaha. i mean, i've seen co2 bags at the hydro store that looks like shit similar to the shrooms. Has anyone done this successfully?

It works, but you have to grow A LOT of mushrooms - like 10+ big totes full.

Mushrooms are a fools game - unless your happy with subsistence farming, it's a giant waste of time.

Can't say that they did, or didn't do all that much, but I will say that the vigorous growth of mushies beats the shit out of the Exhale bags they sell in the stores. This is all in the 4x4 scrog grow in my signature. Ended up pulling 5 pounds off them bags. Only expected 3. It was a half assed quick run.

tibberous said:

Mushrooms are a fools game - unless your happy with subsistence farming, it's a giant waste of time.

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Keep telling yourself that. If you can't move 15 pounds of mushrooms in under a month for a grand a piece you don't know the right people. Also, it shouldn't take you more than 6 weeks to grow that much if you know what you're doing.

Not having shit for solid connections doesn't make it a fools game for those that do.

Peace.
Tav

lol holy fuck thats a lot of bags... i only experimented with 4 bags once in a 2x4x5 space when i first started growing, but i have seen no significant measurable differences with co2 output. but i figured, if i grew a shit load of shrooms next to my weed, i can have shit to smoke and shit to trip on hhahahaha. taviddude, have you measured your co2 ppm with all those bags of funguses?

tibberous said:

Mushrooms are a fools game - unless your happy with subsistence farming, it's a giant waste of time.

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Taviddude said:

Keep telling yourself that. If you can't move 15 pounds of mushrooms in under a month for a grand a piece you don't know the right people.

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Smack that ass.

Taviddude said:

If you can't move 15 pounds of mushrooms in under a month for a grand a piece

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Question is, can you grow 15 pounds a month? Guess if you did bags instead of trays and worked it like a full-time job you maybe could - but you could also grow 15 pounds of weed with way less work, and have a way easier time selling it, for more money.

Is growing mushrooms better than working at McDonalds? Probably.
Is it better than growing weed? No. At least not unless you can automate a big chunk of the labor, and even then the money is probably better spent on weed. Guess once weed is legal, mushrooms might be the next best thing, but the demand won't be the same.

i do not like the idea of growing a fungus in my environment, imo. I have grown fungi in the past, if not done correctly it can produce a ripe environment for growing other bacteria that can pollute your grow/ grow area.

jazlm said:

i do not like the idea of growing a fungus in my environment, imo. I have grown fungi in the past, if not done correctly it can produce a ripe environment for growing other bacteria that can pollute your grow/ grow area.

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There's always mold spores in the air, and the powdery gray mold that screws up weed isn't the same as the one that screws up mushrooms (damn-near always green trich) Keeping weed mold free is really just a matter of keeping moisture/humidity low and removing dead leaves; you don't even have to remove the leaves unless they stay damp.

Thread reminded me of this.

urgod said:

lol holy fuck thats a lot of bags... i only experimented with 4 bags once in a 2x4x5 space when i first started growing, but i have seen no significant measurable differences with co2 output. but i figured, if i grew a shit load of shrooms next to my weed, i can have shit to smoke and shit to trip on hhahahaha. taviddude, have you measured your co2 ppm with all those bags of funguses?

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No, I don't have a CO2 meter. Wish I did though.

Question is, can you grow 15 pounds a month? Guess if you did bags instead of trays and worked it like a full-time job you maybe could - but you could also grow 15 pounds of weed with way less work, and have a way easier time selling it, for more money.

Have you ever grown mushrooms? 15 pounds of mushies are WAY easier, and faster to grow than 15 pounds of weed. Hands Down, No Questions. Mushrooms also cost pretty much nothing to grow. 15 lbs is 250 bags. Bags, coir, compost, and birdseed. Doesn't cost hardly anything. Total stealth. No high electricity bill. 6 weeks from the time you inoculate your birdseed. As far as selling it, it depends again on who you are, who you know, how good your shit is, and where you're at.

Is growing mushrooms better than working at McDonalds? Probably.
Is it better than growing weed? No. At least not unless you can automate a big chunk of the labor, and even then the money is probably better spent on weed. Guess once weed is legal, mushrooms might be the next best thing, but the demand won't be the same.

I like em both, BUT... I'd actually rather run mushrooms than weed. I can go on vacation for weeks and they need Nothing. Mushrooms are pretty much set and forget unless they are fruiting.

A 55 gallon drum, and a water heater element for pasteurization isn't hard to come by. By labor you mean stuffing bags with bird seed/ substrate and stapeling them closed........ Listening for a timer, emptying pressure cooker, and refilling with unsterilized bags.......

Boil your seed and put in bags.
Sterilize bags.
Inoculate your seed and forget about it for 10 days.
Massage the seed, and forget about it for another 5 days. (optional)
Pasteurize your substrate for 250 bags all at once in a 55 gallon drum, let it drain and cool a bit.
Load each bag with 25 ounces of substrate and equal amount of spawn. Shake, and staple closed.
Leave for another 15-30 days, and pick.

Even growing weed in soil requires a hell of a lot more attention than that. I've got to check hydro everyday. No vacations. I don't even THINK about what the mushrooms are doing unless it's harvest time.

Guess it's a matter of personal preference.

Peace.
Tav

Taviddude, Have you ever made a Grow Journal with your mushrooms? The last time I was able to find them was in July and I've been wanting them again. The best option is obviously growing them but, I'd like to see a bag grow like yours step by step. All I ever see is the PF TEK in a tote.

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That's CRAZY! Did you grow a plant in some substrate?

H338 said:

Taviddude, Have you ever made a Grow Journal with your mushrooms? The last time I was able to find them was in July and I've been wanting them again. The best option is obviously growing them but, I'd like to see a bag grow like yours step by step. All I ever see is the PF TEK in a tote.

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I have, but I never finished it. I'll write one up with pictures next time I get around to doing a grow.
Just remind me, I have no problem writing one up.

There are Bag Tek's out there, you just have to dig for em.

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I have, but I never finished it. I'll write one up with pictures next time I get around to doing a grow.
Just remind me, I have no problem writing one up.

There are Bag Tek's out there, you just have to dig for em.

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I'll look into that but, to be honest I'm pretty impressed with your set-up and am lookin' forward to the next time you do a grow. I'd like to know how YOU do it. I'll be getting two 55gal barrels for my reverse osmosis system. I'll make sure to grab a third

Taviddude said:

No, I don't have a CO2 meter. Wish I did though.

Question is, can you grow 15 pounds a month? Guess if you did bags instead of trays and worked it like a full-time job you maybe could - but you could also grow 15 pounds of weed with way less work, and have a way easier time selling it, for more money.

Have you ever grown mushrooms? 15 pounds of mushies are WAY easier, and faster to grow than 15 pounds of weed. Hands Down, No Questions. Mushrooms also cost pretty much nothing to grow. 15 lbs is 250 bags. Bags, coir, compost, and birdseed. Doesn't cost hardly anything. Total stealth. No high electricity bill. 6 weeks from the time you inoculate your birdseed. As far as selling it, it depends again on who you are, who you know, how good your shit is, and where you're at.

Is growing mushrooms better than working at McDonalds? Probably.
Is it better than growing weed? No. At least not unless you can automate a big chunk of the labor, and even then the money is probably better spent on weed. Guess once weed is legal, mushrooms might be the next best thing, but the demand won't be the same.

I like em both, BUT... I'd actually rather run mushrooms than weed. I can go on vacation for weeks and they need Nothing. Mushrooms are pretty much set and forget unless they are fruiting.

A 55 gallon drum, and a water heater element for pasteurization isn't hard to come by. By labor you mean stuffing bags with bird seed/ substrate and stapeling them closed........ Listening for a timer, emptying pressure cooker, and refilling with unsterilized bags.......

Boil your seed and put in bags.
Sterilize bags.
Inoculate your seed and forget about it for 10 days.
Massage the seed, and forget about it for another 5 days. (optional)
Pasteurize your substrate for 250 bags all at once in a 55 gallon drum, let it drain and cool a bit.
Load each bag with 25 ounces of substrate and equal amount of spawn. Shake, and staple closed.
Leave for another 15-30 days, and pick.

Even growing weed in soil requires a hell of a lot more attention than that. I've got to check hydro everyday. No vacations. I don't even THINK about what the mushrooms are doing unless it's harvest time.

Guess it's a matter of personal preference.

Peace.
Tav

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Tav you're the man.

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That's CRAZY! Did you grow a plant in some substrate?

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Nope, the plant was vegging in that bucket right by the mushrooms. Mushroom substrate probably wouldn't be good to grow plants in, the spent rye can cause yeasty mold, gnats, millipedes and probably some other shit.

Not sure why your saying 15 pounds is really easy to grow - you don't seem to have that many bags? I'd be really interested to see how you were fruiting, because thats the step were contams always seemed to creep in. (grain jars > bags under a laminar hood is so clean, but the trays kind of go to shit)

What 'substrate' are you using in the bags you fruit? Are you putting the bags in anything, like a greenhouse with a humidifier or a monotub?

I agree with Kron; Tav you are the man!

+rep for tav. That's what's up. potpimp, you need to message me on yahoo.

tibberous said:

Nope, the plant was vegging in that bucket right by the mushrooms. Mushroom substrate probably wouldn't be good to grow plants in, the spent rye can cause yeasty mold, gnats, millipedes and probably some other shit.

Not sure why your saying 15 pounds is really easy to grow - you don't seem to have that many bags? I'd be really interested to see how you were fruiting, because thats the step were contams always seemed to creep in. (grain jars > bags under a laminar hood is so clean, but the trays kind of go to shit)

What 'substrate' are you using in the bags you fruit? Are you putting the bags in anything, like a greenhouse with a humidifier or a monotub?

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The bag is the monotub. They fruit right inside the bag. They create their own perfect little climate in the bag and fruit right in the bag without ever being opened. That's what I'm trying to say. Bags are the shit. Also, the bags have a filter patch on them for gas exchange with pore size of .2 to.5 micron. Small enough that mold and shit can't get in and if a bag goes bad it does not spread. You just throw it out if you see it. You will get a couple that will contaminate, but they are no real threat to the rest of the grow.
You need no separate fruiting chamber when growing in bags. Bags are their own fruiting chamber.

When doing bags you can grow is some pretty dirty environments.

That picture was of a "half assed mushroom grow" in my 4x4 hydro scrog. I only expected 3 l's and got 5-6.

If you look close you can see them fruiting right in the bag.