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MetalToots

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Also, if they are oily or sticky you can put them in a baggy with a pinch of corn starch and shake. That is actually what gummy bear manufactures use, notice a slight white powder sometimes.
I have a problem with my gummies sweating a bit too much while drying. It turns out that there's some oil left out in the process, like a little drop for every gummy made. I'm afraid to lose a bit of THC there. Would corn starch prevent that?

@Dr.Amber Trichome : maybe you should try to bloom your jello & gelatin separately. Gelatin needs to bloom in cold water, jello on the opposite needs warm / hot water. Also maybe add the guar gum at the end. Could save you some time to fill the molds. Just a guess!
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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I have a problem with my gummies sweating a bit too much while drying. It turns out that there's some oil left out in the process, like a little drop for every gummy made. I'm afraid to lose a bit of THC there. Would corn starch prevent that?

@Dr.Amber Trichome : maybe you should try to bloom your jello & gelatin separately. Gelatin needs to bloom in cold water, jello on the opposite needs warm / hot water. Also maybe add the guar gum at the end. Could save you some time to fill the molds. Just a guess!
I am going to keep the recipe the same and stir a little longer and pour the mix and not worry about the dropper. The dropper is too tedious and slow and annoying. I have good control with pouring directly from the saucer and any of the jello mix that misses a gummy hole I can just use a spatula or dry wall knife to scrape the surface flat and even Out the surface perfectly flat . The excess Gummy goop I have I shove into the gummy BearMold later and with a hair dryer I can heat up the mixture and it will melt back down into a bear shape And wha La.... I am able to make a gummy bear out of just gummy goop.
 

Budley Doright

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I’m not sure if I missed it Amber but did you use guar gum in the last batch? I’m about to try this again. The last batch separated but not sure why as the first was perfect :(. They stil work but are most unsightly so a new batch. You did a great job this time btw, thanks for the report/thread.
 

Thundercat

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I don’t know if I’m already posted this but I’m being lazy and reposting it rather then looking back to check :).

You guys can easily eliminate all these separation issues. Most non canna gummie bear recipes I’ve seen don’t call for butter or oil. Instead of using canna butter for gummies I dissolve a cannabis concentrate/extract into about a tablespoon of high proof alcohol. Then add that right at the end of the gummie heating process and stir it in. The alcohol instantly evaporates off and leaves the extract mixed into the sugar. Voila!
 

Budley Doright

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I don’t know if I’m already posted this but I’m being lazy and reposting it rather then looking back to check :).

You guys can easily eliminate all these separation issues. Most non canna gummie bear recipes I’ve seen don’t call for butter or oil. Instead of using canna butter for gummies I dissolve a cannabis concentrate/extract into about a tablespoon of high proof alcohol. Then add that right at the end of the gummie heating process and stir it in. The alcohol instantly evaporates off and leaves the extract mixed into the sugar. Voila!
Can’t get anything over 80 proof here that I’m aware of but I’ll have a look again. I’ve heard that yes using an alcohol based concentrate eliminates the separation. How are you making the concentrate?
 

Thundercat

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Can’t get anything over 80 proof here that I’m aware of but I’ll have a look again. I’ve heard that yes using an alcohol based concentrate eliminates the separation. How are you making the concentrate?
I make QWISO. There is a guide for roughly how I do it in my sig line at the bottom of my post. I made the tutorial years ago and have refined a few things but it’s got the essentials to producing an excellent quality extract. I never got into butane because I lived in a prohibitive state so I had to work indoors. I follow necessary precautions for working with the alcohol and turn trim into golden grams in 24hrs with no need for a vacuum or heat.

Then dissolve that into food grade alcohol, coconut oil, or butter to be used in any recipes needed. It also allowed me to get a rough idea of dosage on the edibles by using measured amounts of extracts.
 

Budley Doright

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Ya I’ve made it as well using ISO. But butane was my go to method for the last 30 years lol. I haven’t made any concentrates in a couple of years. I use an ounce of bud to make the gummies and I figure they’re around 50mg just by the effect but I’m guessing lol.
 

Thundercat

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Ya I’ve made it as well using ISO. But butane was my go to method for the last 30 years lol. I haven’t made any concentrates in a couple of years. I use an ounce of bud to make the gummies and I figure they’re around 50mg just by the effect but I’m guessing lol.
There are a few keys to using iso to get a nice product. Many people never bother to refine the process. It’s actually pretty simple to get an QWISO concentrate that will compete with anything else on the market.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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I’m not sure if I missed it Amber but did you use guar gum in the last batch? I’m about to try this again. The last batch separated but not sure why as the first was perfect :(. They stil work but are most unsightly so a new batch. You did a great job this time btw, thanks for the report/thread.
Your welcome!
Thanks Bud! Yes guar gum and corn syrup I think are really the game changers for me. Something really important for me and using those additives is how fast the mix will start to bind and get thick. So it’s really important to be ready to pour into the molds quickly but with those additives I have absolutely no separation issues! Good luck bud!
 

Budley Doright

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Your welcome!
Thanks Bud! Yes guar gum and corn syrup I think are really the game changers for me. Something really important for me and using those additives is how fast the mix will start to bind and get thick. So it’s really important to be ready to pour into the molds quickly but with those additives I have absolutely no separation issues! Good luck bud!
Yup my first batch set up great but no corn syrup, I used honey. And yup it set up really fast (two of us filling trays). Again it turned out perfectly. I used guar gum this time as well but it stayed pretty mush like and started seperating as I put it in the molds.
PS like your husband I eat about a heaping tablespoon of the mush and was Fucked up for 4-5 hrs lol
 
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Dr.Amber Trichome

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Yup my first batch set up great but no corn syrup, I used honey. And yup it set up really fast (two of us filling trays). Again it turned out perfectly. I used guar gum this time as well but it stayed pretty mush like and started seperating as I put it in the molds.
PS like your husband I eat about a heaping tablespoon of the mush and was Fucked up for 4-5 hrs lol
Maybe it
Was the honey?
I use canna oil what do you use?
If you do my recipe Exactly like I do it you might have better results. And I tried the corn starch as a powder on the outside of the finished gummies do not like the look at all, so not doing that again.these gummies aren’t sweating that I can see but I should prob take one out
Of the fridge and let it sit for a while and then see what happens .
 

Budley Doright

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Maybe it
Was the honey?
I use canna oil what do you use?
If you do my recipe Exactly like I do it you might have better results. And I tried the corn starch as a powder on the outside of the finished gummies do not like the look at all, so not doing that again.these gummies aren’t sweating that I can see but I should prob take one out
Of the fridge and let it sit for a while and then see what happens .
No they turned out great using honey lol. The only thing different was fresh lemon juice. I’m thinking that might have done it. Buddy is dropping off 2 oz of candy cream so I’ll try it again lol.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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The last recipe was not thick enough to withstand vacumm suction and hot delivery . Will have to thicken it up with a longer stirring even if it means globing together at least that recipe was tough enough to with stand the summer heat and vacuum packing.
 

MetalToots

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The last recipe was not thick enough to withstand vacumm suction and hot delivery . Will have to thicken it up with a longer stirring even if it means globing together at least that recipe was tough enough to with stand the summer heat and vacuum packing.
I'm not sure that stirring more would change the final consistency. Maybe you could add a bit more of guar gum and/or gelatine to achieve that.

How long did you dry your gummies before packing them?
 
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coreywebster

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No they turned out great using honey lol. The only thing different was fresh lemon juice. I’m thinking that might have done it. Buddy is dropping off 2 oz of candy cream so I’ll try it again lol.
Im literally about to start making some gummies now so am just a novice or not even that, but I was reading the last few days and too much citric acid will make them unstable and since you added lemon juice high in citric acid that's probably why.

Might be wrong, just going off what I read of late.
 

coreywebster

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There are a few keys to using iso to get a nice product. Many people never bother to refine the process. It’s actually pretty simple to get an QWISO concentrate that will compete with anything else on the market.
Talk to me Thundercat.

Im right now decarbing some oil in the oven, qwet, so I have ethanol at hand and its non dentured.

Are you saying I can mix my up my flavoured jello and gelatine and then just add some ethanol to my oil to thin it down and bang that in and mix up?
If so how much alcohol would you add ?

I was going to use MCT oil or coconut oil because I have both but just got to your posts so interested to hear your opinion.
 

Thundercat

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Talk to me Thundercat.

Im right now decarbing some oil in the oven, qwet, so I have ethanol at hand and its non dentured.

Are you saying I can mix my up my flavoured jello and gelatine and then just add some ethanol to my oil to thin it down and bang that in and mix up?
If so how much alcohol would you add ?

I was going to use MCT oil or coconut oil because I have both but just got to your posts so interested to hear your opinion.
I use about 1-2 tablespoons of alcohol just enough to get the oil to dissolve completely and easily flow and mix into the sugar. The small amount of alcohol just boils off in the hot sugar and the oil is left mixed in :).
 
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