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Hello everyone, running coco/perlite with general hydroponics. Growweedeasy and cocoforcannibus have been my bibles. Started 6 from seed, (3x reserves privada - skywalker kush, 3x the new - humboldt seeds) 4 survived germination, 2 of each. Things looked semi normal, aside from the single cotyledon on 2/3 hso seeds. (1 did not survive)
I did unfortunately kill a skywalker seedling by neglecting the importance of airflow, and high temps. (PM / mould killed one skywalker kush seedling).
Now.. onward... 2 of the remaining 4 have exhibited some weird traits and I was wondering if they are even worth the nutrients anymore.
Please see attached photos. They really don’t look like marijuana plants to me. The one on the right had a single leaf open from the center much like a monocot plant would be expected to grow.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. The other two plants seem quite healthy, so I’ll have to make mother’s out of them.

thanks for the help.

Just a follow up of each plant

thanks again

Yeah one of those looks like it might not be weed lol. Not sure what you've done wrong but what you should be doing is feeding around 300ppm nutes. Bit of extra calmag if using r/o water.
Ph5.7-6.3
And feeding every day to full saturation and run off.

Are you growing in a radiation zone? One of them looks like a potato plant

is that ruderalis i spy thatt looks like the starting leaves of some of the autoflowering strains ive seen in my garden, dam weeds are everyware

Looks like being waterlogged...

SpongeBob03 said:

Just a follow up of each plant

thanks again

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Do not know what are your pots made of, but it looks like carpet in ice-hockey lockers. How does it drain?

did you pay for those seeds? one aint like no cannabis plant i ever saw seedling 1 in second lot of photoes. id send a pic to them and ask for a new batch or money back. very unprofessional

They look over watered. How warm was it during germination.

Your pH is way off...hence the contorted leafs. Also, your perlite has algae on it...be sure your medium is draining well.

Watering off and humidity way too low.

Less water, higher humidity, i think they will be fine.

As much valid criticism as you are getting, its fine and just needs adjustment.

Algae shows extreme overwatering, ph off, humidity too low...fix all 3 you are gonna be fine. Sounds like a lot but in 2 days they can be on track.

Hello again, thank you to everyone for taking the time to reply (even if it was not helpful).
ill try to respond to all of the comments / questions.

The pots are called root pouches, similar to smart pots. They seem to air prune the roots decently. This is the plants second stop before their forever home.

Am using around 30-40% perlite to ensure proper drainage, and am watering one cup 2x per day approx. 12 hours apart. (They are in one gallon containers currently) There isn’t a ton of drainoff, but i suspect more than 10%.

Some more context , I did reuse these pots from my previous grow that I was almost for sure overwatering which created some algae. I should have cleaned them thoroughly before using. Algae never really worried me to be honest, I spray down with peroxide, it subsides I move forward. The guys at the grow store didn’t seem too worried about a little algae as well. Anyways, the algae this go around, I do not believe to have been created this round, but rather transferred from last time. (Not sure that makes it any better ...)

it did get quite warm during germination, and also quite warm during early seedling stages. Maybe 29-30 celsius. Eventually I increased airflow significantly and added more exhausting to reduce temps. Humidity is quite low due to a heat wave that just passed through. I have another tent in late flower in the same room and had to crank the ac to keep things suitable for ripening, and hence lost a lot of humidity in the smaller tent. So thank you.I will increase humidity.

I am using a blue lab ph pen, and every feeding has been around 6.2 as I was told/ read that until they are a bit older it’s best to stay high for better calmag levels in the water. I will calibrate this again though, to ensure it’s accuracy.

My main concern was the plant structures of the non-typical looking plants in the front of the first picture. I love potatoes, but I’m not in love with potatoes. Do I keep feeding those things? I was more worried about them being detrimental to the good plants, or perhaps being more susceptible to bugs etc.

The seeds are from reputable seed banks, real money was spent. (The humboldts were freebies, skywalkers were purchased)

Think of disease and sickness in people, nobody wants it, neither do your plants. Dont minimize or overlook how and why algae is there. That is likely your biggest issue, the watering. We tell ourselves something is ok...believe me don't. Your success hinges on fixing your medium. Ph...drainage...watering amounts and frequency.

Looks like you are growing spinach on the right....

These seed banks just messing with you.

The one that would concern me is the one in the first pic of your second post. It doesn‘t appear to have a growing point. I’m not sure if weed has latent buds or not. If not, that one is done. The others aren‘t pretty but will probably grow out of it. The single cotyledons on how many? First post 2/3? Really points to genetics or something Humbolt did.

Thank you again for your responses.

Ok, @ComfortCreator, I will promise you that in the future, I will actually clean my bags before re-using them. (such a silly mistake)... But you're right, algae isn't ideal, and is eating some of my feed mixture, and even if my end product is 1% less potent, why not. Fair enough. I've actually been told that fabric pots aren't ideal for hydro in coco. Too much PM risk as well. I've bought some air pots that I should be able to break down, clean and re-use. Just need to purchase some for the younger plant stages.

Even watering frequency I'm a little hazy about. I have read conflicting reports about frequency of watering. I am in just coco and perlite, an inert medium. Most sources that I've seen have said to feed at least once a day. The reason i have bumped to twice a day is that the pots were not producing 10-20% runoff. Is this also incorrect? Maybe my frequency is a bit high, and maybe my volume is a bit high as well. I will put watering back to once a day, provided they are still giving runoff. (again with the conflicting reports, if you don't get adequate runoff, 1.) increase frequency or 2.) increase volume. That's what I've read. is this incorrect?)

@Merlin1147, It doesn't look like the left mutant is going to grow at all eh. I just looked at the other mutant (spinach leaves) and it has a new growth node that is coming out with serrated leaves and looks semi normal, so I think you're right about that as well. The other HSO-"the new" plant has more growth nodes than any other plant I've seen. (I would assume another mutation)

The mutations seemed to be so consistent, that I felt like maybe my environment was contributing to it. But that's just the middle america coming out i suppose. Anytime something is free, like the 5 pack of HSO-the new, I wonder if they are just trying to get rid of them. (AKA they have had complaints) For a seed that was relatively expensive on release and even today still, they sure haven't been genetically stable in my ultra small sample size of 3 beans.

But seriously, having two different strains go mutant, one from cali, one from amsterdam... I didn't/don't know what to think.

I initially ordered seeds from Quebec Cannabis Seeds in a somewhat "seedy" fashion (interac money transfer) and then was told by my local grow store that they hadn't heard of them. Thinking I had thrown money away, I asked them for another vendor and i ordered more seeds. The QCS seeds came first, were totally legit, and they threw in some freebies (just like the other guys). I started the freebies (Auto Bruce Banners) as my first ever grow and they have me totally in awe of how amazing they turned out. Even after my best attempts to drown them, they turned into some big curvy girls that you just wanna take home to mom. Fast forward to popping these fancy seeds and they're all mutants!! (granted with the lack of air flow and extreme heats, I tried to murder these one's as well)

Again, I appreciate your responses. Thanks.

Just a pic showing the new growth of serrated leaves on the ‘spinach’ mutant. And then some late flowers in the other tent in the room. Almost there 80% milky ...

spliffendz said:

Are you growing in a radiation zone? One of them looks like a potato plant

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I thought maybe tomato’s

SpongeBob03 said:

Hello everyone, running coco/perlite with general hydroponics. Growweedeasy and cocoforcannibus have been my bibles. Started 6 from seed, (3x reserves privada - skywalker kush, 3x the new - humboldt seeds) 4 survived germination, 2 of each. Things looked semi normal, aside from the single cotyledon on 2/3 hso seeds. (1 did not survive)
I did unfortunately kill a skywalker seedling by neglecting the importance of airflow, and high temps. (PM / mould killed one skywalker kush seedling).
Now.. onward... 2 of the remaining 4 have exhibited some weird traits and I was wondering if they are even worth the nutrients anymore.
Please see attached photos. They really don’t look like marijuana plants to me. The one on the right had a single leaf open from the center much like a monocot plant would be expected to grow.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. The other two plants seem quite healthy, so I’ll have to make mother’s out of them.

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Those plants look like basil. The seedlings popped like weed, but the small plants look like something else.