Help I got some thing going on with my leaves

I developed these blackish spots on 1 of my 11 plants. Can anyone help me with what it may be. I have not given them any nutes yet. I am growing in promix with additional vermiculite and perlite added. 70-15-15 percentage wise. I was watering with well water with added tablespoon of lime to adjust the PH and add cal/mag. Using flouro's for lights I have 192 watts of mixed 4 footers 6500k,5000k and 2700k. Any and all help with be greatly apprecitated.

Come on anyone.....why do I have a hard time to get responses with my problems ......Maybe its time to try a new forum, even though I really like this one.

to much - nutrient/s - should wait at least 2-3 week to feed in the "seedling stage'"

I have not feed them any nutes yet.

Mainesmoker said:

Come on anyone.....why do I have a hard time to get responses with my problems ......Maybe its time to try a new forum, even though I really like this one.

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you have overwatered them and in doing so overfed them. this has stopped the uptake of nitrogen amosngst other things and now your plants look ill.

its at this point ppl will tell you to add more shit to it..

that couldnt be more wrong... let them dry out ! look how soggy and wet the soil is !

poor plants...

peace

I only watered them 3 times in 16 days and very very little each time

Holy Grail 888 said:

you have overwatered them and in doing so overfed them. this has stopped the uptake of nitrogen amosngst other things and now your plants look ill.

its at this point ppl will tell you to add more shit to it..

that couldnt be more wrong... let them dry out ! look how soggy and wet the soil is !

poor plants...

peace

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Indeed I agree, need some drainage holes in the bottom 1/4 of them cups, like 15 holes. They are suffocating, roots need oxygen.

I do want to thank both of you for your replies so far, and if I can give any more info I would be more than willing

I think I will transplant them into the 2.5 gallon pots tonight,

Mainesmoker said:

I only watered them 3 times in 16 days and very very little each time

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regardless of your explanation they have been overwatered. i bet those cups feel heavy. when you water , lift pots. feel what a dry pot and wet pot feels like.

now let them dry right out . they may / may not come back.

myself ...id put them outside in the ground and start again.
its 50/50 whether they will be ok after such abuse now they may never grow very fast and growth prob has been stunted.

Holy Grail 888 said:

regardless of your explanation they have been overwatered. i bet those cups feel heavy. when you water , lift pots. feel what a dry pot and wet pot feels like.

now let them dry right out . they may / may not come back.

myself ...id put them outside in the ground and start again.
its 50/50 whether they will be ok after such abuse now they may never grow very fast and growth prob has been stunted.

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Yeah thanks, for the help I keep the cups very light, so light my fan has tipped them over a little. I would love to put them outside but I live in Maine as my name indicates and we still have a foot of snow and freezing nights. I think I will transplant into bigger pots

I use an empty yogurt cup and 2 cups will water all 11 of them

Medinugs said:

Indeed I agree, need some drainage holes in the bottom 1/4 of them cups, like 15 holes. They are suffocating, roots need oxygen.

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yep, id maybe aswell take em out mix that wet soil in a tub with some dry soil and carefully replace.

i cant stand seeing this kind of mistake. i know of ppl that continue to do this and also overfeed and then buy into lots of stupid ideas about nutrient defficiency then go adding more nutes....
and then subscribe to all kinds of fanciful advanced techniques that again simply dont work better than good plant care.


normally when ppl start stating the exact nutrient defficiency a plant has and overlook its simply been overwatered its these "cultivators" that need to start again... its not working at all !

Use fresh moist soil for your transplant and don't water for 24hrs. Water very sparingly around the outside of their rootzone till they bounce back. Be patient and let the roots search for water and fill in the pot before starting full on watering. They'll b good eventually, just be patient it'll happen.

Medinugs said:

Use fresh moist soil for your transplant and don't water for 24hrs. Water very sparingly around the outside of their rootzone till they bounce back. Be patient and let the roots search for water and fill in the pot before starting full on watering. They'll b good eventually, just be patient it'll happen.

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fingers crossed they will. sometimes they never come back and waiting is a waste of time.

a matter of wait and see. id personally start again.

Getting um outta the swamps is a good call though, and their only hope. Hopefully root rot hasn't set in too bad at this point.

Well the spots have got a little darker, but the plant looks a little better I will take some pics a little later. I still don't know how it was over watering as I really gave them very very little. I would say 1 liquid oz per plant every 5-6 days, I'm more concerned it has something to do with my well water and I have swapped over to using bought spring water. Would the addition of Lime to my water do something like this.

Also I used quite a bit of vermiculite could that be holding to much water and is causing me the potential root rot issue.

Holy Grail 888 said:

regardless of your explanation they have been overwatered. i bet those cups feel heavy. when you water , lift pots. feel what a dry pot and wet pot feels like.

now let them dry right out . they may / may not come back.

myself ...id put them outside in the ground and start again.
its 50/50 whether they will be ok after such abuse now they may never grow very fast and growth prob has been stunted.

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So I transplanted today and the cups were dry all the way to the bottom not even close to being over watered. I was thinking you guys were correct, and would find the bottoms saturated but it was not. I even took a few pics to show you. I also took an updated pic of the leaves right before I transplanted it.

Anyone got any more ideas