Help! I have never seen this before.. leafs curled and twirled.. please read pics inc

can anyone explain the burns on this leaf so i can prevent it from the future? couldnt have been heat damage because i had the lights far away when i saw the first signs of ACTUAL heat damage.. than it kept getting bigger.. so maybe nute burn?



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It could be something as simple as the genetics of the plants themselves. Ive also had this happen from trying to FIM my plants, and the other time was from the plants genetics im guessing.
Hope this helps
BigBudE

they are about 4-5 weeks old. used super thrive on em.. also flora grow. i usually water every 6-10 days (whenever dry) i last watered it maybe 3-4 days ago. with approx 3 gallons of water distributed to both plants diluted with super thrive, vinegar (to lower ph) and flora grow) (I used 2 tablespoons of vinegar altogether in 3 gallons) ph seemed to be about 6.5-7 (i have a shitty fuckin 3 in 1 meter) and it was gettin pretty dry.

I HOPE I didnt overwater.. ima be fuckin pissed.

BigBudE said:

It could be something as simple as the genetics of the plants themselves. Ive also had this happen from trying to FIM my plants, and the other time was from the plants genetics im guessing.
Hope this helps
BigBudE

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yeah! it all happened when i pinched out the tops.. than the leafs got all fuckin WHACKY lmfao PERSONALLY I think its cool.. until like.. well i dunno.. i just figured theres no way i coulda altered the genetics of leafs by fuckin with the main node..

I remembered somethin about curled leafs.. but these ones are TWIRLED lmfao i hear its sum defecioncy.. but i forgot which one.. Zinc? also how the fuck do i get rid of aphids man?

Anyone know how to FARM lady bugs? i dont wanna keep goin back to nursery

The wrong Ph will twist the new growth. Over watering will make all the leaf droop.
Good chance what you see is caused by insects if its isolated. (not happening to all the leaf) Aphids like spider mites need to be killed in two steps first kill the adults the about a week later spray again to kill the eggs that have hatched but are still juveniles and haven't laid any more yet. Here is a good link to read, LINK

cruzer101 said:

The wrong Ph will twist the new growth. Over watering will make all the leaf droop.
Good chance what you see is caused by insects if its isolated. (not happening to all the leaf) Aphids like spider mites need to be killed in two steps first kill the adults the about a week later spray again to kill the eggs that have hatched but are still juveniles and haven't laid any more yet. Here is a good link to read, LINK

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alright cool ill check out the link.

yeah i have a spray.. organic spray.. but like.. everytime i spray it seems that it just fucks with the effeciency of the leafs..

do you guys recommend watering by little amounts daily? or no watering until 7+ days?

That hard to say, depends on how fast it drains. I guess the best way to know for sure is to dig a hole next to it and see.
I would go down a little over a foot and see if the soil is damp.

cruzer101 said:

That hard to say, depends on how fast it drains. I guess the best way to know for sure is to dig a hole next to it and see.
I would go down a little over a foot and see if the soil is damp.

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yeah noticed that one drains faster wheras the other one actually doesnt as much.. i forgot the word for it though but it seems slushy when watering... never happened before..

is it bad that I used Fox farms than watered with R.O water than 7+ days later watered with flora grow? I just read the back of fox farms and it says no use for fertilizer for UP TO 30 days.. but idk cuz it said somethin like 'oh and use our ferts with this soil!'

man im thinkin i fucked up.. but than again the leaves twirled days after i topped em.

In soil grows it take a few days to a week to see the results of what you do unless it just needs water then you see the difference in a few hours. Using fox farms ocean forest, the soil mix is pH balanced. That means they expect you to water with pH 7.0 water and the mix has buffers that will take it down. If you used R/O with a low pH then yea, That could lower pH cause leaf to twist. If you add nutrients that are pH balanced like flora nutes to r/o same deal if you dont adjust the pH back up. I would stop with the nutrients, fill a 5 gallon bucket with water and let it sit, give the plants like a week to dry out, when I see them drooping from no water then use all the water in the bucket between the two plants to flush them and raise the pH.

yeah i use R.o all the time. Still waiting for my ph meter (for water) to come in. I only have the 3 in 1 ph meter for soil (I dunno which ph meter to buy :\)

get calmag if using RO

IVIars said:

get calmag if using RO

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***sorry using a proxy, which wont let me seperate my paragraphs***Definatley. this never happened before.. the thing im doing differently I guess would have to be using the flora gro and the ACTUAL amount of superthrive.. I thought it said one drop per gallon lol so last season I just used gallon of r.0. with one drop of super thrive haha now im actually using the 1/4 of a teaspoon and the flora gro. OH! and I honestly could say I dont think I had aphids last season.. i just had these specs of white that displaced whenever I moved the plant a bit on accident.Also im topping this season.. and using foxfarm.. do you guys think its just aphids or a defiency? ill take more pics when I get home, I even started LST like.. 2 days ago they are responding QUICK to that xD

Did you splash the feed on that leaf? Could be burnt from water droplets being on the leaf. Could be burnt from the feed water eating the leaf

thegrouch34 said:

Did you splash the feed on that leaf? Could be burnt from water droplets being on the leaf. Could be burnt from the feed water eating the leaf

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a little tad bit, but its also happening to new growth.. so I really dont think thats the problem. ill take pics right away. I try to water with a 23oz bottle on each plant (pretty small amount) everyday now. but today ima skip it in case its too much which i really doubt. pics will be taken of whole plant and an example of the problem, plus new problem, the side of a leaf is turning black as if burnt..

bent leaf (major one, there arent many of these and the rest are VERY minor)

this is the one where ALL the leafs look like... with the exception of the fan leaves, the fan leaves appear normal, except they dont stick up as high as they use to..