Help please, I've Exhausted my Research to no Avail.

Hey you guys, I'm a first time grower of this plant, I got a clone about a week ago. It's doing good in some aspects, its growth has absolutely SHOT up in the last 24 hrs. I placed the rockwool cube into the soil medium (Mircale Gro...i know i know [extremely short on funds]) I've watered her twice using about 3 quarts each time. Before the 2nd watering I added some blood meal because I was sure after a ton of research that it was a nitrogen problem and while the growth has definitely increased i haven't really seen an improvement in color however it has not gotten worse in the last 16 hours or so either.

Here are some pics.... these are all from less than 10 minutes ago however i have pictures from her everyday so if it will help to diagnose I can post them as well

My current best guesses are either Nitrogen or Magnesium Deficiency. I think an important thing to note is that growth is not stunting and is only improving only colors are off and droopiness. also those marks on the leaves are from my dumbass lightly spraying it under the lights

Here are pictures from pervious days, about 3 and 4 days ago. Also I forgot to mention i have spent at least 12 hours reading numerous books and posts trying to get a definite identification of the problem but my lack of personal growing experience is preventing me from pinpointing it.

P lock-out, secondary to N abundance, i do believe. you could try an h2o2 flush. i'm not sure how much to flush with. i would re-pot. good luck

wouldnt the lack of P mean slow growth though? growth has definitely increased

go to any garden center, grab a bag of organic potting soil (look for bat guano, worm castings, sphagnum moss,ect.) (1cubic ft. should fit the budget) and a bag of perlite(cheap and at the same store). Add a fair amount of perlite too new soil and and replant in that.

Temps? RH?

A clone that small in fresh potting soil (even if it is miracle grow) should not have a deficiency because of lack of nutrients.
It would guess the cause is by either heat, rough handling (it looks like the top got bruised, maybe some roots got broken when you transplanted?) or bad drainage of your soil.

Check the soil you should be able to stick your finger in the soil down to your middle knuckle and have it come out clean, if it doesn't wait to water, you may need to pull the plant out add a layer of 1/2-1" stones on the bottom, and repot, this will help quite a bit for drainage, and if you have a drip pan, the soil will not constantly take up more water.

Airflow and temperature are very important, these things are the things I see most in peoples plants dying.

And just one more question, the clone that you received was rooted before you transplanted it right? Maybe a silly question, but if you transplant a clone with too little root mass, sometimes it will grow for a little bit using up the nutrients in the leaves and stem, without bieng able to take in nutrients, it will fall over in die in a week or 2, especially if you handle the roots with anything but a surgeons hands.

I would say high PH locking out Iron, with an abundance of N. Flush with distilled water and feed at 1/4 strength. That MG isn't doing you any favors either.

The top is bruised because I FIMed it is definitely growing and looking good since then (48 hrs ago) in that area. Multiple roots were breaking out of the Rockwool so i think its roots are fine. I could improve airflow, i have a large fan to circulate but its a small tight space and I need to keep it covered, I will start leaving the cover open when i am around it will improve airflow dramatically, maybe even low c02 could cause that? i have never seen anything in research books about low c02 symptoms. Temperatures don't go above 84 degrees F and its probably closer to 80-82F because i got rid of a very inefficient 160 watts from fluoro tubes (i may replace during flowering in a more effective way once the plant grows more vertically). I need to get something to check humidity and i may get slapped for this but I have yet to check PH my meter is broke however i'll be borrowing one tonight to check it so i could rule out lockout.

I know without knowing PH it will be hard to say for sure what it is but I just want some feedback from the community because a lot of you seem to be really excellent growers

I forgot to mention this is a Tahoe OG

The roots were flowing out of the rw, not now. Too wet upsetting the root system causing the sag and stunted growth. Get fans in there, reduce waterings and no more nutes (enough in the mg soil for now),they were never deficient just medium staying too wet and root system doing nothing.Also stop misting.

Whats the NPK of the Miracle Gro? Are there nutespre-packaged in the soil? And what strength did you feed ? Soil looks awful dry, could be a couple of things, but it looks like the new growth is coming in nicely. Can you get some pics today? Sorry It took so long to get back to you, I wasn't any where near a comp yesterday.

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The roots were flowing out of the rw, not now. Too wet upsetting the root system causing the sag and stunted growth. Get fans in there, reduce waterings and no more nutes (enough in the mg soil for now),they were never deficient just medium staying too wet and root system doing nothing.Also stop misting.

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i hope u take that answer not argue about how u didnt overwater em .

I DIDNT OVERWATER THEM....however theres a chance of the soil not drying out as well as it should, i could improve my airflow. Also attributing to that is i stuck one moisture meter in there it shot all the way to the right however another meter just moved to 2. I wish i could take pics of the root system to further verify but excess moisture in soil is a possibility im not gonna rule out...

I can't find the N-P-K of my soil however here is a link to it on Amazon... http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Gro-Moisture-Control-Potting-Mix/dp/B000BZ1IBE/ref=sr_1_5?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1327089754&sr=1-5 its the miracle gro moisture control potting soil. Before i transplanted i flushed the dirt extremely well. I just checked PH yesterday and the monitor said it was 6.5 so i've ruled out PH issues.

I've had them for a week now and they've been under 24 hr lighting however i just got a timer and they are now on an 18-6 regimen about to go off in 4 hrs for the first time. I got some bud candy nutrient from a friend because i'm starting to think maybe its lack of Magnesium (bud candy is .5% Mg) and i'm planning to foliar feed if there is no improvement.

I just woke up today and some of the newer growth now has a god damn yellow spot on it. Here are pictures from about 2 minutes ago...
This is the new growth, it looks a nice lush green and is growing at a decent pace. This is the leaf that is showing the most advanced signs of whatever is plaguing this poor girlHere's a picture where the flash didn't go off you could see the color in a more natural perspective, notice the bottom part of the leaf and the yellowing. also, the veins are staying a nice lush greenHere she is, notice the droopiness Here's some of the newer growth at the top of the plant. Yellowing has just occured on the 3 large leaflets at essentially the same spot on each one right in the middle of it and it seems like it may start working its way out. This is NEW today

I am not going to water until that ph meter that shot past 4 is telling me its dry.

Maybe this soil is just retaining water real well I flushed the soil before transplanting and then did not water until 2 days ago when i saw she started looking sad. not arguing the point of overwatering, just wanna be thorough in info that i provide

They look like the roots aren't drying out. How is the drainage?

drainage is excellent however the soil is very very moist im starting to lean more and more towards excess moisture in the soil. i just added a small fan blowing directly towards the plants from a good distance away, theres a large fan above blowing towards the little fan, so should make for good air flow. Any tips on making the soil dry out a little faster.?

If those roots dont dry and get some oxygen, that will kill the plant faster than anything. You might consider transplanting it in some soil with a bit less water retention, and make certain you have good drainage.

Drainnage is definately a huge part of your problem. From what I can see there isn't any perlite in there. If that's the only soil option you have, then I would cut the soil with 1/3 perlite to air it out and help with drainnage. A transplant seem like the only option to me

there isn't any chance of it drying out a little bit. Im sure a transplant would be the best thing to do but i have 0$ and no soil i'll have to wait another 2-3 days before i have funds, then ill go out and buy some good soil

You can try some sugar water...just a few tablespoons in some water, that way if it is because of too much nitrogen it will help, and if it is because of something else it won't do anything harmful to the plant like H2O2, or constant flushing can...it is always where I start, because my problem is almost always too much N...but then again it usually isn't an actual issue with leaf damage until flowering...anyway just give it a shot because it can't hurt.

Take the pot or whatever the plant is in and put it on top of a bunch of paper towels or something else absorbant...or other dry soil...Anything that is made to soak up water but is currently dry...there is a kids toy called orbeez that suck up water and puff up and then really slowly they will dry back out...I have been known to poke a handful in my soil because they start out tiny tiny little balls and then get like way bigger to the size of marbles.

Oh, and orbeez are also good for vacation...if you have to go on vacation..let them soak up a good bit of your nutrient solution and then put them around the top of your soil, they will autowater for you because they hold the moisture until the surrounding soil wicks it back out of them...