Help with issue on auto.

altaran · Nov 30, 2022

Auto gelato at about 3 weeks into flowering. Having the same issue I do believe as my last grow, just not as bad. FFOF soil, worm castings, with gaia green all purpose up until last week, when i started with my power bloom( 50/50 mix). Ph in the range of 6.3-6.7 on every watering. Temps uppers 70's at day, to lower 70's at night. The problem is, some of the leaves on the top are getting the same rusty look to them. I think its the same magnesium def. The slightly burned tips and twisting of the tips has been going on since about week 2ish of the plant.

Let me know, if I am on the right track. Thank you in advance.

altaran · Nov 30, 2022

I forgot, I do use big bloom every couple waterings. The plants seem to love the instant EC. :-)

xtsho · Nov 30, 2022

You don't have any deficiency. That plant is overfed.

altaran · Nov 30, 2022

xtsho said:
You don't have any deficiency. That plant is overfed.

Gonna probably sound stupid..... but I didn't really think you could overfeed on organics....at least not using recomended schedules.

altaran · Nov 30, 2022

I actully stopped with the big bloom last week, bc they looked a lil over nitrogened..... But maybe its just over everything. LOL. Next fert isn't for 3 more weeks. What do you recomend?

hotrodharley · Dec 4, 2022

With OF you shouldn’t need to feed until well into flower. Then many OF users simply top dress with more OF. You’re trying too hard. Unnecessarily.

xtsho · Dec 4, 2022

hotrodharley said:
With OF you shouldn’t need to feed until well into flower. Then many OF users simply top dress with more OF. You’re trying too hard. Unnecessarily.

Yeah you shouldn't but their own feed chart says otherwise. There used to be some verbiage about not needing to feed in OF for 4 weeks but they seem to have scrubbed that from their website. They prefer that people buy their fertilizer, follow their feed chart, and then overfeed, flush it out, overfeed some more, flush it out, etc...

I never feed more than the EC they have at week 1 for the entire grow. I can't imagine 2.9 EC at week 4. It's a fucking joke and the reason many screw up their grow. These companies are not helping anyone grow good weed. They just want to sell overpriced bottles with cartoon labeling to the naive.

hotrodharley · Dec 4, 2022

xtsho said:
Yeah you shouldn't but their own feed chart says otherwise. There used to be some verbiage about not needing to feed in OF for 4 weeks but they seem to have scrubbed that from their website. They prefer that people buy their fertilizer, follow their feed chart, and then overfeed, flush it out, overfeed some more, flush it out, etc...

I never feed more than the EC they have at week 1 for the entire grow. I can't imagine 2.9 EC at week 4. It's a fucking joke and the reason many screw up their grow. These companies are not helping anyone grow good weed. They just want to sell overpriced bottles with cartoon labeling to the naive.

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My buddy who does his 48 hour dark period and a 2 week flush finally got a Truncheon at my urging. Now he’s trying his hardest to raise the EC to these ridiculous levels. Had him measure the EC of the feeding he would have given without the meter. 2.4!

Then he wonders why his plants don’t do as well as mine. You can’t get some people to believe these feeding schedules are nuts.

xtsho · Dec 4, 2022

hotrodharley said:
My buddy who does his 48 hour dark period and a 2 week flush finally got a Truncheon at my urging. Now he’s trying his hardest to raise the EC to these ridiculous levels. Had him measure the EC of the feeding he would have given without the meter. 2.4!

Then he wonders why his plants don’t do as well as mine. You can’t get some people to believe these feeding schedules are nuts.

More has to be better. Just ask the heroin addict that decided to take a double sized hit. Oh wait you can't. They died from an overdose.

altaran · Dec 4, 2022

hotrodharley said:
With OF you shouldn’t need to feed until well into flower. Then many OF users simply top dress with more OF. You’re trying too hard. Unnecessarily.

Not sure what your meaning by trying to hard. Litterly fertilized it once and the plant is now almost 9 weeks old. The big bloom, is just worm castings and bat gauno. So how am I trying to hard?

hotrodharley · Dec 4, 2022

altaran said:
Not sure what your meaning by trying to hard. Litterly fertilized it once and the plant is now almost 9 weeks old. The big bloom, is just worm castings and bat gauno. So how am I trying to hard?

First glance - dark green. Says more than enough nitrogen. Yet you’re adding EWC. For a start.

big bud man 413 · Dec 4, 2022

Auto don't usually like to much ferts I usually feed 1/3 -1\2 strength

calvin.m16 · Dec 5, 2022

How to Identify & Fix Cannabis Nitrogen Toxicity (with Pics)

Does your plant have "the claw?" The talon-like leaves that are bent at the ends are a sign that your plant may have nitrogen toxicity. Learn how to fix it.

www.growweedeasy.com

Too much fertilizer, if you wanna use gaia green and all that then mix it into coco. Soil doesn't need all of those additives. Also Fox Farms is crappy soil IMO look into something like m3 mix if you want water only.

altaran · Dec 5, 2022

calvin.m16 said:
How to Identify & Fix Cannabis Nitrogen Toxicity (with Pics)

Does your plant have "the claw?" The talon-like leaves that are bent at the ends are a sign that your plant may have nitrogen toxicity. Learn how to fix it.

www.growweedeasy.com

Too much fertilizer, if you wanna use gaia green and all that then mix it into coco. Soil doesn't need all of those additives. Also Fox Farms is crappy soil IMO look into something like m3 mix if you want water only.

Thats the first time anyone has ever recomended putting organics into coco. Didn't know that was possible, or at least not feasible.

calvin.m16 · Dec 5, 2022

altaran said:
Thats the first time anyone has ever recomended putting organics into coco. Didn't know that was possible, or at least not feasible.

Lots of people mix organics into coco.

Creature1969 · Dec 5, 2022

calvin.m16 said:
Lots of people mix organics into coco.

Yep, just search the forum to see all the problems people have doing that.

altaran · Dec 5, 2022

Creature1969 said:
Yep, just search the forum to see all the problems people have doing that.

Yeah, thats what I was thinking. Hence why I am doing this the simple way. Organics and dirt. Following one of the many auto/organic threads on this site. But I guess all those threads are wrong.

speedwell68 · Dec 5, 2022

big bud man 413 said:
Auto don't usually like to much ferts I usually feed 1/3 -1\2 strength

This. My Autos get grown in the soil from tomato grow bags and then half strength tomato feed once a week, from when they start to flower. They get some calmag at the start of flower too.

speedwell68 · Dec 5, 2022

Creature1969 said:
Yep, just search the forum to see all the problems people have doing that.

Absolutely spot on. I bought an amended coco, basically coco with composted wood matter and worm castings. Dreadful.

altaran · Dec 5, 2022

speedwell68 said:
This. My Autos get grown in the soil from tomato grow bags and then half strength tomato feed once a week, from when they start to flower. They get some calmag at the start of flower too.

Last gaia feeding was on Nov 16th , and the next one will be around the 16th of this month. Wouldn't think about feeding every week. Might be a tad much. lol

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