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AllGravy

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I recently transplanted a plant to a 5 gallon pot using roots organic mix. Since then the leaves have curled severely. I am going organic just feeding with compost teas but havent given them any yet. Is this a result of a hot mix from roots organic? Its the mix with the coco coir, worm castings bat guano, etc. I have only given them distilled water. Any help would be appreciated. Its an Iranian g13

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Nullis

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They look a bit over watered, even though the soil surface actually looks mostly dry. How are you watering them? Proper drainage holes in the buckets and everything?

Roots Organic potting mix isn't particularly hot. I don't think it will feed for much longer than a couple weeks, if that. Could also just be transplant shock/stress. I always drench my soil with a strong solution of Maxicrop Liquid Seaweed after transplanting and the plants don't show any signs of stress.
 

AllGravy

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I have watered them about every 2-3 days. I have felt they were being over watered and maybe some transplant stress/shock. I havent watered them for about 3 days. I have some compost tea bubbling for about 36 hours that Im waiting to give them. Maybe I'll hold off on the tea for about 2 more days. The surface is dry, but and inch or 2 down its very slightly moist
 

Nullis

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In the week or so after a transplant, plants typically don't need to be watered very frequently. As the roots grow to accommodate the new container more frequent watering may be required.
 

*BUDS

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plants can take 1-2 weeks to recover from shock. dont over water and dont bump up ferts.
 

AllGravy

Member
Im trying not to, but new growth is starting to come in at the top and underneath. Im still waiting for the curled leaves to uncurl.
 

paco4you

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whats the ph of the water? usually something simple. its hard but not imposable to burn using organic stuff. oh and check the drainage situation very important.
 

AllGravy

Member
the pots drain well.. From everything that I have been reading about organics and micro organisms, checking the ph is not needed. Am I wrong on this?
 

paco4you

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always check your ph ! i would suggest drying them for a couple days and then watering them with some water between 6.4 and 5.9.
ph is every thing with these plants cant stress that enough if you want them to be happy, and trust me if your plants happy you will be to.
 

Nullis

Moderator
I have horticultural pH drops and some capsules for soil testing, which I only really use out of curiosity or if I am having any problem. Soil organics growers, in my opinion, do not need to be constantly fussing over their pH and checking it frequently; I don't anyways. Good organic soil is rich in humus (thoroughly decayed organic matter) which has a high cation exchange capacity. In short this means that your soil should both retain nutrients and resist rapid fluctuations in pH.
The next step to ensuring this is to have a sufficient amount of dolomite limestone in the soil. Dolomite has calcium and magnesium, and it counters the acidity of fertigation solutions; it raises pH. Soil flora (micro-organisms) and the plant roots themselves will also influence soil pH (e.g. by exchanging H+/OH- ions for others). Soil microbes like bacteria influence soil pH by utilizing H+ ions, thus reducing soil acidity (increasing pH). Most bacteria like alkaline conditions and actually produce an alkaline film/slime in order to help them survive. Fungi on the other hand tend to prefer moderately acidic conditions. All of the interactions between the roots and bacteria, fungi and other organisms in the soil tend to help balance the pH out.

Short answer: never hurts to add a little extra dolomite limestone. Be sure to water more dolomite into the soil every few weeks. You can collect and check the pH of the run-off (preferably the latter drops of it), but it may not be exactly what the actual "soil water" pH is. I tend to think it might be a bit higher, or perhaps a bit lower... but with the required additions of dolomite I don't seem to have any problems with my run-off coming out between 6 (yellow) and 7 (green).

Also aerating your nutrients/tea brewing will help reduce acidity.
 

paco4you

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rite on. lol the point of checking is just to make sure if ya never check ya never know. check before and check the run off two that way you can see exactly what your really doing to your baby's ! good luck wit that bro . peace
 
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