Here we go again
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tet1953
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Like what, exactly? Congress holds the pursestrings, not the President. Plus, we have a no-to-everything House and a Senate where it takes a super majority to pass ANYTHING. Obama is trying to get us the fk out. Bush set us up to spend billions, enriching his Haliburton friends.
tet1953
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It is just so warped when you think about it. We are, in fact, building infrastructure in those two countries. And we are borrowing every dime we spend to do it. Meanwhile here at home budgets are being slashed, teachers, police, firemen laid off. The people losing their jobs are on the hook for the money to build those schools in Afghanistan for crhissakes.
Charlie Ventura
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Are you nutz? Two wrongs don't make a right.
We need to get back to a smaller, more responsible federal government. Let's shrink the some-bitch down to size. That would mean a constitutional central government with the power returned to the states. One of the FEW legitimate functions of the federal government is to protect We The People from foreign attack. In other words, defense, not offense. In a truly free society, our government would not be "nation building" with the attempt at democratizing the entire world in our image. I'll leave that up to the Bill Kristol types at National Review.
Your comments?
BudMcLovin
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So its Bushs fault we are over there, but its no fault of Obamas we are still there. He is the commander and chief. Lets not forget the third conflict Obama got us in without congressional approval. Remember Obama and the dems had control of the House and the Senate for 2 years. They could and did pretty much anything they wanted, but dont let things like facts get in the way. Obama extended the Bush tax cuts so now shouldnt they be called the Obama tax cuts?
tet1953
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Dems never had "control" of Congress. The filibuster, a device once used only about once a decade, is threatened with every piece of legislation. It now takes 60 votes to get anything through the Senate.
No, they are not the Obama tax cuts. Extending them was the only way to get anything passed. I'll say this though..if they get extended again it is all on the dems.
No, they are not the Obama tax cuts. Extending them was the only way to get anything passed. I'll say this though..if they get extended again it is all on the dems.
dukeanthony
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Senate Passes Resolution Calling for No-Fly Zone Over Libya
By Dan Friedman
Updated: March 1, 2011 | 9:35 p.m.
March 1, 2011 | 9:19 p.m.
The Senate unanimously approved a nonbinding resolution on Tuesday calling for the United Nations Security Council to impose a no-fly zone over Libya and urged Libyan leader Muammar el-Qaddafi to resign and allow a peaceful transition to democracy.
dukeanthony
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Republicans Hold Unemployment Extensions Hostage to Get Tax Cuts for The Rich
dukeanthony
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BudMcLovin
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Is that congressional approval military action? No.
The demand that Obama secure congressional approval to continue the Libya operation has brought together House Republicans and liberal Democrats. Link
We could play the quote game all night but it's not going to change either one of our opinions. So I won't waste any more of my time. So blame Bush and enjoy the kool aid because it's going to run out in 2012.
dukeanthony
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Do we need Congressional Approval to Support our Allies who we have signed Treaties with?
Its a yes or no Question
Its a yes or no Question
BudMcLovin
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Dems had a majority in the House and 59 or 60 seats in the Senate when Obama was inaugurated.
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BudMcLovin
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Do we have a treaty with the rebels that overthrew Gaddafi?
tet1953
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How quickly we forget. When Gadhafi was slaughtering people in the streets, the world was debating what to do about it. GOP were coiming out of the woodwork, excoriating Obama for not "doing something"..international law, sovereignty and not knowing who these rebels were be damned. He couldn't and didn't move fast enough for some of them.
Plus, it was and is a NATO op. We have committments there.
Libya was but one of many no-win situations Obama has faced since taking office. I just wish he and the dems would get tougher with 'em.
Plus, it was and is a NATO op. We have committments there.
Libya was but one of many no-win situations Obama has faced since taking office. I just wish he and the dems would get tougher with 'em.