***hermies*** : Everything you need to know! Faqs

Opie1971

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This thread still active? Wanted to get everyone's opinion. Week 4 of flower for this berry Ryder, was supposedly an auto but did now show pre flowers for 50 days so it was flipped to 12/12 and has since flowered. Just wanted to get an opinion, Ive had issues with Hermie's before but I changed flower rooms in hopes to combat any prior issues.

The pistils look very large to me- I dont know if I'm just super paranoid, but I've also noticed a few of the buds do in fact have pistils that are orange on some of the buds. I don't know if this is from pollination or the life cycle itself.

I've read that strong fans can cause pistils to turn orange early, or a fan leaf in constant contact with the bud can also turn the hairs orange. I have also read that its all part of the cycle and some hairs turn orange mid flower to sprout more fresh pistils.

I'm.still kind of a newbie and would appreciate some of you vets chiming in with whatever you may know through experience or just general knowledge. Thanks all.
It's really hard to tell with your light on, could you take a pic using other lighting? Possibly right after your grow light go off or right before they come on?
Have you seen any pollen sacs anywhere?
 

Brendan2007

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I will take some better quality photos for you guys to weigh in on. Lights on at 730am tmm, I'll get some then.

Newgrow, I guess I don't actually see any male flowers as of yet but the orange pistils made me wonder if maybe it was pollinated. I wasn't able to be very thorough today because ofof schedule conflicts, but I will inspect lower growth tomorrow. Plant has been lollipopped so there isn't much on the bottom to begin with. I will double check. Thanks again for both of your responses.
 

Brendan2007

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Thanks again. Went back in today to check some of the other plants I have that were just flipped to 12/12 two weeks ago. They are photo periods, and I noticed that the pistils are slightly orange on some. This concerns me. I'm super paranoid like I said. I've attached photos- can you all weigh in and let me know what you think?
 

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6_blade_leaf

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Hey guys! Nice looking gardens!

I’m new on here and one of my plants seems to be throwing bananas too. Not sure if I just post on this thread, but I was hoping to find some help if I should pluck the bananas or is it too late?
 

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CannaBruh

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Hey guys! Nice looking gardens!

I’m new on here and one of my plants seems to be throwing bananas too. Not sure if I just post on this thread, but I was hoping to find some help if I should pluck the bananas or is it too late?
Since you have others I would axe that ho.

If it was the only thing in the garden I would give it hell with the tweezers.
 

BudmanTX

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i'll call the Rodes after Rodelization which is what it is

at some point the plant was stressed to the point it needed to protect itself
 

6_blade_leaf

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Since you have others I would axe that ho.

If it was the only thing in the garden I would give it hell with the tweezers.
Yeah I was thinking the same...I only have one other girl in flower but she’s starting to frost up nice, I think I’ll hit it with some tweezers and keep it separate. I hope the ones that opened didn’t do the job already. Thanks mate!
 

BudmanTX

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on of the things you can do with try to wipe down the area with water the best you can, also change your clothes after handling it pollen will attach itself to your clothes too....just be mindful and careful....
 

Miss-lee

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It is important to distinguish between a real hermaphrodite and a monoecious hermaphrodite.
A real hermaphrodite will have both an X and a Y chromosome. Real hermaphrodites are uncommon, especially from good seedbanks.
Monoecious hermaphrodites are much more common.

Monoecious hermaphrodites are often the result of poor environment as opposed to genetics.
Many growers over feed which is for some varieties enough to make a female plant produce male flowers. Heat is also a very common cause of stress. This is how the "feminized seeds make hermies" myth began.

The resulting seeds from a monoecious hermaphrodite are certainly not useless. They are feminized seeds that are as likely to become monoecious hermaphrodites in the same conditions the parents did.

When a female plant (XX) produces male flowers, it is a normal and natural survival mechanism. The pollen only has X chromosomes, so it can not produce male plants.

Properly made feminized seeds make 99.999999999% female plants. That, along with the latest findings on cannabis sex determination, lead me to believe that a plant's sex is determined in the seed.
Hi I saw this and was wondering if u could help me better understand my situation. I planted my first ever seeds outside back in May (end of autumn) and by the time I finally got the courage to pull my boy he had clearly turned my girl. I LST'ed her and topped her to promote a smaller tree. 4 months later she had a lovely big head about the size of my hand which I topped. She also had about 6 smaller ones growing too. Something came up and I ended up potting her. She transferred great. Then i had a dry spell with suppliers and gradually started plucking a couple every fortnight or so and giving her fertilizer which I'd never done before and she started popping out new shoots. Even the tiny buds at the bottom got new shoots at the head. Now it's the end of spring, I've taken off the baby buds and she is blooming better then before. She's still in the pot and I've had to pin her down again coz she went crazy... now I have one of her baby's growing in the ground next to her and another from another plant thats potted. Pretty sure there both females. Sorry about the novel just wanted u to know the long history lol. Anyway do you think my girl could be a real hermaphrodite and do u think with my other 2 girls I could create feminized seeds??
 

Miss-lee

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Hi I saw this and was wondering if u could help me better understand my situation. I planted my first ever seeds outside back in May (end of autumn) and by the time I finally got the courage to pull my boy he had clearly turned my girl. I LST'ed her and topped her to promote a smaller tree. 4 months later she had a lovely big head about the size of my hand which I topped. She also had about 6 smaller ones growing too. Something came up and I ended up potting her. She transferred great. Then i had a dry spell with suppliers and gradually started plucking a couple every fortnight or so and giving her fertilizer which I'd never done before and she started popping out new shoots. Even the tiny buds at the bottom got new shoots at the head. Now it's the end of spring, I've taken off the baby buds and she is blooming better then before. She's still in the pot and I've had to pin her down again coz she went crazy... now I have one of her baby's growing in the ground next to her and another from another plant thats potted. Pretty sure there both females. Sorry about the novel just wanted u to know the long history lol. Anyway do you think my girl could be a real hermaphrodite and do u think with my other 2 girls I could create feminized seeds??
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Opie1971

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Hi I saw this and was wondering if u could help me better understand my situation. I planted my first ever seeds outside back in May (end of autumn) and by the time I finally got the courage to pull my boy he had clearly turned my girl. I LST'ed her and topped her to promote a smaller tree. 4 months later she had a lovely big head about the size of my hand which I topped. She also had about 6 smaller ones growing too. Something came up and I ended up potting her. She transferred great. Then i had a dry spell with suppliers and gradually started plucking a couple every fortnight or so and giving her fertilizer which I'd never done before and she started popping out new shoots. Even the tiny buds at the bottom got new shoots at the head. Now it's the end of spring, I've taken off the baby buds and she is blooming better then before. She's still in the pot and I've had to pin her down again coz she went crazy... now I have one of her baby's growing in the ground next to her and another from another plant thats potted. Pretty sure there both females. Sorry about the novel just wanted u to know the long history lol. Anyway do you think my girl could be a real hermaphrodite and do u think with my other 2 girls I could create feminized seeds??
Why would you want seeds out of a plant like that? You’ll be picking out seeds every time grow a plant out of them.
 
Hey everyone. I don´t know if that´s the right thread but what about a hermaphrodite with real pollensacks(no bananas) pollinating another pure female?

Of course i know the problem of self pollination and understand the problem you are all talking about of getting more hermaphrodites out of the seeds. Sadly experienced it myself. ;)

But on the other Hand i rescued some other strains with those non selfpollinated ones which just got pure and stable females.
And a lot of friends who i gave some seeds to got the same experience somehow after all those years.

Would love to hear some suggestions or knowledge.
 

Greybush7387

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I get so many herms from radogear like 15 in 4 packs which they replaced after i told them, y i keep getting thier gear the customer service is the best. They never try to blame you. I respect that honesty. But i wanted to c if i could find a more stable breeder so im trying ihg slurricane fems and they to have more herms than fems found one sac on one and 5 on another outta 3 plants i must be doing suttin but cant figure it out im in a tent on a digi timer, and anytime i run known fem keepers they never have balls or nanners. So i cant say its a light leak, temps are perfect. Light is cool tube 18 inches away. Never overfeed i use gh nutes though can they cause herms. I dunno i say these top breeder suck ive had better luck with seedsman barneys far royal queen even ilgm seeds never a herm.rare dankness was pretty bad to the rare darkness and dark ghost train were terrible 1 fem outta 10 fem seeds.
 

Bigjerm

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LOTS OF INFO ON HERMIES!

Marijuana plants are either male or female . The male Marijuana plants produce pollen which pollinates the flowers of the female Marijuana plant, which once pollenized, produce seeds . If the female Marijuana plant isn't pollenized (if there are no male Mariuana plants nearby producing pollen), the flower/buds continue to develop and produce THC. Female Marijuana plants which are not pollenized are referred to as sinsemilla (without seeds). Usually 30-50% of the Marijuana plants are male.

What's the Difference you ask?

Males are often, but not always, tall with stout stems , sporadic branching and few leaves. Males are usually harvested except those used for breeding, after their sex has been determined, but before the pollen is shed. When harvesting, especially if close to females, cut the Marijuana plant off at the base, taking care to shake the male as little as possible. This helps prevent any accidental pollination by an unnoticed, open male flower.

When a male enters the stage of flower development, the tips of the branches where a bud would develop will start to grow what looks like a little bud (little balls) but it will have no white hairs coming out of it. Females will have no balls and will have small white hairs. >> Read More about Male marijuana plants

Cannabis in temperate climates begin to show his sexual identity by the end of July (end of January in the southern hemisphere) in different dates according to the varieties, Marijuana being the resinous flower of female cannabis plants intended for seed production, in absence of pollen buds turns out pure sensimilla weed and is gentle and sweet to smoke.

It is very important to get rid of male plants on time, as they are unwanted pollen carriers. By the early flowering stage male cannabis, if compared to female's, shows quite a different structure but the characteristic excrescencies would be the sex indicator this are called primordia and will emerge by the side of the third or fourth internodes in the main stem.

Female cannabis are completely revealed when the characteristic "V" shaped pistils become visible, all this to a close observation. Outdoors males will uncover themselvesapproximately three weeks before the females, indoors sexing of both males and females happens within a week to ten days according to the variety.

We've heard of urban legends about environmental conditions, age of seeds, added chemicals and even lunar stages having an influence on sexual differentiation of Cannabis; you might take note of those suggestions as personal communications, but a good handbook or an internet surf works the best if you lack in experience when sexing.

For more pictures of male and female marijuana plants visit our Marijuana Picture Gallery







What is a Hermaphrodite plant?

An hermaphrodite, or hermie, is a Marijuana plant of one sex that develops the sexual organs of the other sex. Most commonly, a flowering female Marijuana plant will develop staminate flowers, though the reverse is also true. Primarily male hermaphrodites are not as well recognized only because few growers let their males reach a point of flowering where the pistillate would be expressed.

Hermaphrodites are generally viewed with disfavor. First, they will release pollen and ruin a sinsemelia crop, pollinating themselves and all of the other females in the room. Second, the resulting seeds are worthless, because hermaphrodite parents tend to pass on the tendency to their offspring.

Please note that occassionally specious staminate flowers will appear in the last days of flowering of a female Marijuana plant. These do not drop pollen and their appearance is not considered evidence of deleterious hermaphroditism.



Cannabis and Gender
Cannabis plants can be male or female, occasionally they are hermaphrodites a mixture of the two. Clusters of resinous flowers known as buds only form properly on pure female plants. Females therefore are the only things worth growing if you want to end up with buds of sinsimilla. It`s very hard to tell the sex of a plant until it begins to flower and even then you can never be really sure of its sexual pureness until it, or cuttings taken from it have completed a full life cycle.

Female Flowers
A single female flower consists of a little green seed pod with two fuzzy V shaped hairs poking out of it. These hairs, called stigmas are usually white but they can be other colours. The individual flowers build up through flowering to form the dense clusters commonly called buds. Look near stem and leaf joints on your plants to see them forming.

Female Characteristics
Females tend to be shorter and bushier than male plants. They usually take 7 to 21 days to change from growing to flowering when placed on a flowering light cycle.

Females can Change
Even pure female plants have the potential to turn male or hermaphrodite. This can happen if the plant is stressed too much through bad treatment or if hormones are applied to the plant to induce male flowering. Often near the end of flowering unfertilised stressed out females will produce one or two male flowers in a vein attempt to continue the species. Over cloned mother plants kept for too long can also suddenly start producing clones that change sex.

Hermaphrodites
These are plants that are part male, part female. Some equatorial Sativa varieties of cannabis are naturally hermaphrodite and the use of them in the crosses that seed banks sell will sometimes show up. Other times hermaphrodites are caused by the plant being stressed. Quite often you will get plants that are mainly one sex with maybe a branch that shows flowers of the opposite sex. Hermaphrodites are best dumped as they will only lead to disappointment.

Male Flowers
Early on male flowers look a bit like small bunches of mini green bananas or grapes. These bunches are actually sacs where the pollen forms. Later on these sacs open, push back their tepals, like petals but not, and release their pollen. Male flowers contain little THC and their pollen can make people unwell. Like hermaphrodites males are best dumped.
Thank you 10 years later lol this was BIG help
 
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