Horribly thin and spindly plants

MASS97 said:

I always thought "manure" made great fertilizer? LOL, Sorry, just couldn't pass on that one!

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HA! didn't think of that one.... no I meant shitty shultz, miracle etc.

*BUDS said:

I suppose different people have diff perception on "amazing results"

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AMAZING for the crap mistakes I made all the way through

robert 14617 said:

how about some pictures of your girl rose?

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how's this?

i'm not seeing thin and spindly plants those girls have thick ass trunks they should produce fine, they look better then mine.......+rep

now it looks like they need more time to ripen and fatten up the buds are a little on the thin side....

as i said spindly and soft. and as for your nice young plants,yes those lights are suitable for early veg. u need hps for flowering . no arguement. or u will cont to get more stems/leaf and less bud.

robert 14617 said:

i'm not seeing thin and spindly plants those girls have thick ass trunks they should produce fine, they look better then mine.......+rep

now it looks like they need more time to ripen and fatten up the buds are a little on the thin side....

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oh, not those. Those two with some person I have never met before in the pics were from last time. These 3 are the ones I was worried about. They were doing fine, getting bushy and I gave them too much N maybe and they started doing the spindly thing, BAD.

*BUDS said:

as i said spindly and soft. and as for your nice young plants,yes those lights are suitable for early veg. u need hps for flowering . no arguement. or u will cont to get more stems/leaf and less bud.

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I agree but I have limited space and heat would be a big issue. Unless I went with a small one in the red light chamber. I have blue in one and red in the other in a thin long closet. Also, I have no room for a ballast uless I can find a small one or a reflector or plug-in mogul socket with built in ballast. I just don't know much about that stuff. What kind of heat does hps let off?
Right now in the flowering chamber I have 8 red T5 HOs, 4 overhead and 4 mounted on the wall vertically. It runs at about 40,000 lumens in each chamber.