phrygian44
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Whoa! Easy there with the philosophy, Socrates.I know a lot... but in fact, it's nothing! So i know nothing! Hold my beer, reach me the cup of hemlock... I'm going to prove it anytime! I'm stupid
*coughcough
How far can "ripeness" be pushed?
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ComputerSaysNo
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It does not have to be an LED, though. You get a 300W regular UVA lamp for around €40. Lower power ones much cheaper.
Cost does not seem to be an issue here, IF the effect on the flowers is actually significant.
Well, I have decided long ago that when you earn money in a regular job, you have enough to pay a couple of college kids to help you moving. Or an actual moving company.
I will not help anybody move again in my life, and for that reason, and that's the "excuse" they're going to here from me.
Boy, this thread has drifted way off topic.
PJ Diaz
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What is a "regular UVA lamp"?
CheGueVapo
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Plus zerozero-sieving the tumbled twisla with a 200 mesh turn out a lot of fluffs and hairs that could be easily removed with sieving...
That moment i realised what dirt catcher cannabis is in-house for dust and flour, things i never wanted to know.... consequently you smoke it with the buds, unless you have deep filtering clean room. With 200-meshed sieved hash, you dont get rid of fine dust, but at least the hairs and flours.... uarghs. Was no fun to see the hairs group themselves up the mesh, so you just can pull out dust bunnys :/ haha
Once you go that road you see things that make you dont ever return again.
Hehe, regarding the plate. I lay that seal-tree-logo from an aluminium-ornament behind celophan over the lid of a rosin press form
Like this: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B08CVRQFTV
Then i fill in the tumbled sieved clean kief. And then I use this ton-press to press it without or minimum heat: https://www.piher.com/en/inicio/244-maxipress-r---depth16cm.html
They are easy to handle, cheap and have enough force.... you dont need the expensive presses. These Piher 10000N do it
But stay back from generous standard screw-clamps, they are not enough, just give you blisters on the hand. You need the 1t for bigger sizes than a thumbnail.... i tried a lot presses, but i refuse to pay for peacemaker or the puck-presses. This 1t screw press with easy 90°-handlebar does it very well and is relatively cheap.My plates are relative small, its about 12-15g, first i press the logo, then another times to tighten the rest of the square...
I dont need a lot of it, small plates is enough for me, but these small pres spucks were to small to me and always loose aluminium... some plates are soft like glue like the best twisla/sputnik, depending what quality and duration I sieve, not the easiest to pulverize or "apply", the zero when include the trimm its harder, and that sieved zerozero with 200 mesh again is better, but the trimm gives a lot plant-parts, the plates look unique, scissor works best any cases, i more grate/rasp it. Never use the lighter, expcept for the final moment
I still take care for good clean buds... the inlet-air is standard-filtered, i dont do it so i dont need to care the buddies, its organic, dont give nutrients the last weeks, watch out and prevent mold, recycle the soil, using ro-water and anythign to increase the qiuality by all means in any aspect. Hash has a certain kind of charming pureness that is worth discovering on top of it all. It's refined/pure resin, with a very old tradition.... sadly these old wise marocs never smoked some sensimilia hash....
It might boggle their mind if they could try that
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ComputerSaysNo
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Flourescent or black light, not LED.
PJ Diaz
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You have a 300w UV flourescent? Usually I would expect something that powerful to be mercury vapor, however they have a lot of uvb in addition to uva.
CheGueVapo
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Theres fluorescent lamps. Google for PUVA therapy and you find the bulbs.
15W is enough for a 300W LED..... one should stimulate with extra additional UVA..... not let the fucking lucifer shine down on them to grow chlorosis! 300W UVA bulb... , by the almighty....
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PJ Diaz
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I'm quite aware of that. There are also uva incandescent lamps, as well as mercury vapor. I wanted to know what the poster considered a "regular uva lamp" that pushes 300watts to be.
ComputerSaysNo
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ComputerSaysNo
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See above. With "regular" I just meant "not LED".
Also I guess you'd need a lot less than 300W for this application. Probably a few low-watt flourescents would be fine. I do not know. Would be happy to try it some day, when I have the means to run a controlled experiment (everything else is Voodoo).
CheGueVapo
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The question is how far away to position such a lamp if it exists and what to wear to protect, since this power is significant... you dont want to stand next to such an emitting device.
Nobody puts a 300W UVA pure lamp into operation... for no sane reason
Nobody thinks about inventing it.. for what sane reason???
But its not 300W UV-A.. check the data:
Dont claim its 300W UVA when its just a normal white light with having some UVA.... thats not the SAME
Nobody puts a 300W UVA pure lamp into operation... for no sane reason
Nobody thinks about inventing it.. for what sane reason???
ComputerSaysNo
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Yeah, OK. I think my point is clear: LEDs are not necessary to put out arbitrary amounts of UVA light, and the flourescent bulbs you get are very inexpensive.
Absolutely. Very dangerous and can blind you. I would not use that lamp.
I would try a couple of 15ish Watt flourescents.
CheGueVapo
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UVA Therapielampe PUVA 120 W
is the biggest i could find on the net for therapy..... theese are pure in the range lower than 410.... peaking at 350.
is the biggest i could find on the net for therapy..... theese are pure in the range lower than 410.... peaking at 350.
ComputerSaysNo
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Yes, it needs to be safe to handle, and put out the wave lengths needed for the plants. LEDs are great because they're so compact and fairly efficient. But as far as I'm concerned it would not have to be LEDs, as long as it works; especially since the "traditional" technology is a lot less expensive, and much easier to acquire.
CheGueVapo
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I agree, never look inside such lamps, same goes for the UVA/deepblue LED-chips, but also the royalblue can leave spots on your retina/macula.
Shut off UVx for inspection to protect your skin and STILL use protection wear for the eyes, and i mean not only a cap, and some general sun-glasses but a protective google with UV400 block, thats the most important.
A normal sun-glass does notprotect you but can make it worse, because UV is not blocked, but because of the less light incoming, your pupils widen and more UV penetrates your eyes.
I recommend Uvex CBR65
These are optimal... they only darken your view a little, you barelyrecognize a dimount. Bud the blue chips get filtered and any UV got blocked....
Under those kind of googles your eyes will be propperly protected, especially when dealing with high power blue/violet/uv chips.... they are cheaper than most "sunglasses", not expensive.
... and these protection gear does not mean you are now free to stare into the chips... STILL avoid focusing them. Just in case you thought that with it it would be OK... nope! Just let that be! Believe me... tiny black spots on the vision for the rest of your live are not funny games!
Better you learn it before you experience it!
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ComputerSaysNo
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In one of Jorge Cervante's books he mentions that growers have been blinded by opening running ozone generators and looking into the UV light source inside. Big Ouch.... and these protection gear does not mean you are now free to stare into the chips... STILL avoid focusing them. Just in case you thought that with it it would be OK... nope! Just let that be! Believe me... tiny black spots on the vision for the rest of your live are not funny games!
CheGueVapo
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Hmm why would any grower do that stupid. Better put your eyes into books to seek enlightenment, not into uv-c chips or other emitter.... oh dear. I hear this melody from somewhere, the weeknd.... uuuuh, im blinded by the lights 
PJ Diaz
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That light only puts out 13.6 W in the UVA range.This one is not flourescent:
ULTRA VITALUX 300 W 230 V E27 | OSRAM PIA
www.osram.com
PJ Diaz
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I have one of these myself, but don't always use it:
ComputerSaysNo
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Any light source puts out far less net radiation in the respective spectrum than the nominal power intake. Even LEDs radiate most of the power away as heat.
We would have to look at the LED numbers, too, here.
In any case, that light bulb is oversized and most likely very dangerous to handle. Not recommended.