How the wealthy constantly screw the poor

ttystikk said:

No contradiction; Revolution is short term, planetary destruction by extension of the status quo is long term.

Also, revolution in America, at least in the classic sense of armed insurrection, is a suicide mission and one I don't condone or think will succeed.

Our imperialist, militarist and increasingly fascist nation is indeed killing millions of innocent civilians worldwide. Genocide is debatable and perhaps beside the point in the larger argument.

My beef is with the oligarchs who have taken hold of nearly all of the reins of power and wield them to the short AND long term detriment of our society, not to mention all the rest of them.

Bernie didn't address that at all and it is one of his shortcomings, IMHO.

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chemphlegm said:

rich girl funs in bed fucked in the head
poor girl wives never wield knives

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schuylaar said:

Re: Bernies shortcomings..he bullet points his ideas..you have 10 seconds of a humans attention span. He's getting the basics down and when people start to ask for more, he'll provide it..he's addressing all IQ's..so if it's a little dumb downed?..feel me?

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abandonconflict said:

How so? How is so called "democratic socialism" of Bernard the imperialist sheepdog (who campaigned for months in support of Hillary Clinton's candidacy for potus) any different from the socdem ideology of the party that killed Rosa Luxemburg?

po-tip: It's not and you're not a socialist.

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Padawanbater2 said:

How is the SDP of the early 20th century different than democratic socialism seen in places like northern Europe or the platform Sanders supports?

Is that what you're asking?

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abandonconflict said:

Actually I was asking why Bernard murdered Rosa Luxemburg.

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Padawanbater2 said:

I'm not sure you understand the definition of a few of the actual political science terms you've been using over a few threads

'progressive', 'liberal', 'democratic socialism', etc.

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Padawanbater2 said:

How is the SDP of the early 20th century different than democratic socialism seen in places like northern Europe or the platform Sanders supports?

Is that what you're asking?

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abandonconflict said:

Talk about irony. You've been watching too much of your anticommunist, genocide denying hero Jenk Googer.

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abandonconflict said:

Are you having a stroke or something?

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Padawanbater2 said:

Why don't you try to explain your issues? Up until this point, you haven't said anything of value.

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abandonconflict said:

Berners wonder why they're hated by everyone. Democrats hate you because you are basically self hating democrats who hold mostly the same positions but act like jerks and swear you have actual ideological differences. Republicans hate you because they are bigoted ass holes. Leftists hate you because we're tired of everyone thinking we support an ass hole like bernard.

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Fogdog said:

did somebody say Sea Lion?

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Padawanbater2 said:

you haven't said anything of value.

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abandonconflict said:

There goes some more of that irony...

It seems that if anything isn't a bunch of pro-bernard clatter, you deem it valueless. I really don't think you have the capacity to wrap your head around the notion that Bernard is irrelevant.

See my first comment in this thread. Please do not employ leftist rhetoric if your stated goals are counter to leftist ideals. You Berners are clearly opposed to revolution.

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abandonconflict said:

Berners don't get to talk about class warfare. As long as the inflatable berner movement is the biggest obstacle to building an actual leftist movement, I would prefer berners do not go around appropriating radical leftist and marxist language.

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schuylaar said:

Try him, you might be surprised.

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UncleBuck said:

are you having a stroke or something?

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