How to attach Panda Film to Foam Board Insulation?

MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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green_machine_two9er said:
They make some very strong tape. Maybe even tape used on heating and cooling ducting. True duct tape made for temp swings
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My suggestion for tapes would be "Kanga" tape. Strong and clean removal without damages. That should be the answer to the question as presented. Just a bit more money.
 
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MICHI-CAN said:
My suggestion for tapes would be "Kanga" tape. Strong and clean removal without damages. That should be the answer to the question as presented. Just a bit more money.
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Kanga is great. I would have laminated it onto the foam boards as well but if they are up they are up
 
xIPhobiaIx

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@MICHI-CAN you are saying glue mix sticks onto the board and than attach the panda to that?
@dbz This would be wood ferring strips? Also, is "two sided carpet tape" better than two sided gorilla or T-rex tape?

Hmmmm, I like the idea of a good tape to get the job done but am concerned with stickiness overtime.
I guess long ass screws with washer could do it but than putting more holes in the insulation, panda film etc.
Long ass staples could also do it but again not exactly "gentle".
Maybe a velcro strip?
 
Nizza

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I would try the grip rite washers for foam board. They come in different diameters, grab onto foam board and some come in white. You can put whatever length screw in them you need
www.homedepot.com

Plasti-Grip 1.75 in. ci Prong Washer HDPGCIPRONG250 - The Home Depot

Plasti-Grip ci prong washers can be used to attach all types of rigid foam insulation and mineral wool. Can be used with nails, screws or tapcons. Attach insulation to any substrate; wood, steel, or concrete,
www.homedepot.com
 
Partyslayer1

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xIPhobiaIx said:
Hello,

Short version:
What solution would hold panda film best against Polyisocyanurate foam board insulation (aluminum facing)???

Long version:
I have finished insulating my groom... plywood walls -> spray foam for air seal -> fiberglass r-15 -> 6mil clear vapor barrier (all staples and seams are taped over) -> Polyisocyanurate foam board (radiant aluminum barrier on front back) -> panda wrap.

I am not looking for a debate of putting drywall, osb, plywood, etc. over the foam board and sticking the panda to that. In this situation without getting into to much detail it simply can't happen. Trust me.

I just simply need to know how I get the Panda film to stick to the insulation board with the radiant barrier aluminum facing and not peel off over time due to whatever (humidity, etc.)

Thank you all!
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1. It won't unless you glue it.
2. Why do you want to? I use the same board. No pests, no heat issues. Bringing sand to the beach IMO.
 
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Relic79

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FastFreddi said:
I was going to suggest tape, but with the warm temps it may not stick long.
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Tuck tape, it's held panda film to almost anything for me. I haven't used it in this particular application, but it's working to hold it to wood, itself, a stick on zipper for a make shift tent door etc. It's holding even under pretty intense negative pressure.

It's made for sheathing/vapor barrier is temp resistant, and seems to cure and hold even stronger over time, but can be removed.

Tuck Tape 219-08 2-1/2 in. x 55 m. PE Blue Air and Vapor Barrier Sheathing Tape | Investments Hardware Limited

Tuck Tape 219-08 2-1/2 in. x 55 m. PE Blue Air and Vapor Barrier Sheathing Tape is made of a UV resistant polypropylene film and coated with a specially formulated solvent-based acrylic adhesive. This tape has been specifically designed to seal, seam PE Vapor Barrier. The 219-08 is the only CCMC...
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Just don't tear it with your teeth. If it sticks to your lip.....
 
dbz

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xIPhobiaIx said:
@dbz What do you mean laminated?
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Well Ideally I would have used a spray adhesive and slowly with pressure applied the film to the board extremely evenly prior to putting them up.
I actually have a 60 inch roll press laminator I would have fed them through but most dont have this and you could adhere and press it on each full sheet manually, while you had them on a table to work on. Would make it real even, clean and neat
 
xIPhobiaIx

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dbz said:
Well Ideally I would have used a spray adhesive and slowly with pressure applied the film to the board extremely evenly prior to putting them up.
I actually have a 60 inch roll press laminator I would have fed them through but most dont have this and you could adhere and press it on each full sheet manually, while you had them on a table to work on. Would make it real even, clean and neat
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So each foam board would of had its own panda layer? I am trying to keep the panda film as intact and "draped" as possible.
 
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Relic79

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xIPhobiaIx said:
So each foam board would of had its own panda layer? I am trying to keep the panda film as intact and "draped" as possible.
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Blue tuck tape.

If you are draping, will you have negative pressure? Be aware it will probably suck inward if it isn't pulled super tight.
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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xIPhobiaIx said:
Hello,

Short version:
What solution would hold panda film best against Polyisocyanurate foam board insulation (aluminum facing)???

Long version:
I have finished insulating my groom... plywood walls -> spray foam for air seal -> fiberglass r-15 -> 6mil clear vapor barrier (all staples and seams are taped over) -> Polyisocyanurate foam board (radiant aluminum barrier on front back) -> panda wrap.

I am not looking for a debate of putting drywall, osb, plywood, etc. over the foam board and sticking the panda to that. In this situation without getting into to much detail it simply can't happen. Trust me.

I just simply need to know how I get the Panda film to stick to the insulation board with the radiant barrier aluminum facing and not peel off over time due to whatever (humidity, etc.)

Thank you all!
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How thick is the foam board?
You could still screw sheetrock over the foam board and hit the studs.
That’s what i’d do. Then fire tape, or not, and then staple the panda film up.

I did this over 2inch foam board on a garage ceiling, for a grow I built. i’m sure you can handle it on walls :-)
I’m just a framer/hanger i don’t know shit though.

If you REALLY can’t rock over the foam board, you could attach furring strips over the foam up top and down along the perimeter and like every 4’ vertical, then staple to that ?
 
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Star Dog

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xIPhobiaIx said:
@MICHI-CAN you are saying glue mix sticks onto the board and than attach the panda to that?
@dbz This would be wood ferring strips? Also, is "two sided carpet tape" better than two sided gorilla or T-rex tape?

Hmmmm, I like the idea of a good tape to get the job done but am concerned with stickiness overtime.
I guess long ass screws with washer could do it but than putting more holes in the insulation, panda film etc.
Long ass staples could also do it but again not exactly "gentle".
Maybe a velcro strip?
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I'm not familiar with gorilla, but I'd expect gorilla or the likes to be equally good.

Just a suggestion, evo stick impact, paint on give a few minutes and stick it, it won't budge, 5lt isn't ridiculously expensive and super strong.
 
xIPhobiaIx

xIPhobiaIx

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Relic79 said:
Blue tuck tape.

If you are draping, will you have negative pressure? Be aware it will probably suck inward if it isn't pulled super tight.
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From what I have read Tuck tape is only in Canada... not sure what is the US equivalent
 
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