Hydro Nutrient Challenge

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Earl

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I use the AN Barricade,
but it is the same Potassium Silicate
as DM Silica Blast.

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pigpen

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ooo earl I forgot to tell you that I picked up some phosophload AKA DM's super bud
Is it alright If I use this at the start of flowering?
 

Earl

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haha yeah It gives me something to do... Is the phosphoload ok? its like bushmaster
You can spray it with whatever pigpen.

If you have a control partner,
you will both need to use the same things.

I don't know crap about foliar spraying.

I use the liquid light
and I hate having to do it,
plus it is expensive
and I haven't seen the "explosive growth"
they promise.

But.... That's the whole point of this challenge.

We shall see, won't we?
 

User24

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not to nit pick, but with f1 seeds wont you have a large genotype variation, until its backcrossed properly?

even then, clones are the only scientific way to compare different nutrients against each other.

additionally, can you speak to the ease of growing your seed? if it is a fickle strain, there could be problems with one or more brands due to genetic predisposition and not nutrient composition that may not be present in all strains.

only once a strain is stabilized or cloned can it be scientifically compared.
 
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unity

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Co2 is OK with me.

pigpen, you just like to spray, don't ya?

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Earl, I'm thinking of using House of Swan Aqua Flakes and the rest of their products. I didn't get the aqua flakes yet, but will! As you can see my new grow space is under construction while I'm finishing a grow :mrgreen:

Unity
 

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Roullette

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I will Growing DWC topping and root pruning

I will be using Technalflora Nutes, hygrozyme,SuperThrive, and Clearex





Base Nutes for Vegging
ThriveAlive B1 Red
BC Boost
BC Grow
Magical
SugarDaddy
Hygrozyme
Superthrive

Base Nutes for Flowering
ThriveAlive B1 Red
BC Boost
BC Bloom
Magical
SugarDaddy
Awesome Blossom
Hygrozyme
SuperThrive

Foliar Spray
ThriveAlive B1 Green every other 7th day at night.
SuperThrive on the opposing 7th night.

Vegging Cycle
6500K + 2900K mix spectrum 4 foot flouros 18/6
will be topping about 1 month into veg if i think it can handle it
will be root pruning from starting of the tap root aver day to every other day.
Will either LST or Scrog the plants havent made up mind yet will have to work around the flouros.

Flower Cycle
will be using a 600 Watt HPS on a 12/12 cycle.

Side Notes
will be using Clearex every other res change.
will be using Distilled water by the gallon IF NOT will have RO system made.
Also will be using 1/3 strenght of nutes PPM at 500-600 at vegging and 700-900 at flowering.
will stop use of flowering nutes 9 days before harvest. will only be using SuggarDaddy and Magical for 2 days then do a Clearex flush and the remaining 7 final days PHed Distilled or RO at 5.5-5.9, and that PH will be during the whole grow.:hump:

sorry for the delay on this post.
 

Earl

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I will Growing DWC topping and root pruning

I will be using Technalflora Nutes, hygrozyme,SuperThrive, and Clearex





Base Nutes for Vegging
ThriveAlive B1 Red
BC Boost
BC Grow
Magical
SugarDaddy
Hygrozyme
Superthrive

Base Nutes for Flowering
ThriveAlive B1 Red
BC Boost
BC Bloom
Magical
SugarDaddy
Awesome Blossom
Hygrozyme
SuperThrive

Foliar Spray
ThriveAlive B1 Green every other 7th day at night.
SuperThrive on the opposing 7th night.

Vegging Cycle
6500K + 2900K mix spectrum 4 foot flouros 18/6
will be topping about 1 month into veg if i think it can handle it
will be root pruning from starting of the tap root aver day to every other day.
Will either LST or Scrog the plants havent made up mind yet will have to work around the flouros.

Flower Cycle
will be using a 600 Watt HPS on a 12/12 cycle.

Side Notes
will be using Clearex every other res change.
will be using Distilled water by the gallon IF NOT will have RO system made.
Also will be using 1/3 strenght of nutes PPM at 500-600 at vegging and 700-900 at flowering.
will stop use of flowering nutes 9 days before harvest. will only be using SuggarDaddy and Magical for 2 days then do a Clearex flush and the remaining 7 final days PHed Distilled or RO at 5.5-5.9, and that PH will be during the whole grow.:hump:

sorry for the delay on this post.
Excellent!
Thanks you.
 

Roullette

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No Earl.... Thank You!!!

shipment came an its good!!! 2 got crushed but shits all GOOD!!! your the man!!!

cant wait for Jan 09:hump:
 
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StinkBud

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Hey Earl, my system dose not fit within your exact specs but it would be interesting to compare. You might already be familiar with my system.

I would start the seed in a paper towel and transfer to a Jiffy Cube when it pops. Into the cloner with straight water until I have nice roots(7/10 days). 160 Watt Fls.

Then off to the Veg. system. 250 Watt MH. Dual container Aeroponic system. PH 5.8 for the whole grow.

Botanicare Nutrients:
126ML Cal-Mag Plus
180ML Liquid Karma
540ML Pure Bend Pro Bloom
1000>2000 PPM during veg

After a total of 6 weeks they would go into my Aero/NFT system under 2000W HPS lights. I'll run 2900 PPM for six weeks and then taper off to 2400 PPM for week 6/7. I would start my flush on week 8 and flush with Clearex for 24 hours and then straight water until the plants finish (9 weeks?).

Any ideas on the finish time of this strain Earl?

I'll be running CO2 by then also.

It would be interesting to see what my system could produce. I am a professional photographer so the photos would be good. I am also a legal patient/provider here in Oregon with 14 years experience growing.

This is one of the best ideas I have ever heard of in my life. Kudos to Earl for thinking it up. This is the kind of stuff that could really change people's perspective on what works best.

Any chance you could run a plant in soil too Earl? I think it would be interesting to compare the difference in growth rates.

One more thing Earl. Please be super careful!!!!! No one wants to see you end up in jail over this.
 

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bcurwi1

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this looks like an amazing grow race/comparison
i used to grow hydro
but im definetly going to watch :mrgreen:
 

xxedgexx

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No one is going to use Canna?

I'm new to growing, only have one harvest under my belt. This is a great thread because the most confusing thing for me was my nutrient combinations.

I'm getting ready for the next round and I had planned on using a full Canna system this round...but after reading this post, I'm curious why no one is mentioning Canna. Something I should know?

Has anyone ever tried "Super Nutrients"?

 

CaliGrower420

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Hey Earl,
Is it not too late to join?

I will be using 400Mh for Veg

Either 400hps or 600hps for flowering.

As far as the nutes, which ones still have not been done?
I will buy which ever still need to be tested that have not been selected by others, or some nutes that sum 1 else is using so we can have a doulble grow control.

Let me know what nutes u think i should get.
I have done 2 dwc grows last year and had good results.

I will post pics later,
plz tell me what nutes u think i should use.
 
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