fatman7574
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Alaskan Fish fertilizers vary by brand in their analysis from 2-4-1 to 6-8-0.5 with 5-1-1 being the most common. They are also high in ammonical nitrogen. They do make buds taste and smell really sweet. Seriously.
Hydroponic food that can be found at home depot or lowes
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getthatskunk
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FAT MAN thank for your info and r you sure it works.....to every one els who reads this plz post only if gotten products from home depot or lowes that work for hydroponic if you have not done so then dont post thank you.....sorry if this is mean
fatman7574
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I have used much Alaska fish fertilizer in the past three decades. My outdoor thermometer now says -2 degrees F. It should drop about another 10 degrees in the next few hours. Been growing up here since August of 1974. Definitely used a lot of different store bought fertilizers before I started formulating my own.
Shot from the past. When I first started growing under halide lighting in 1974 one 1000 watt light was the standard for a 10 foot by 10 foot grow area. That's only 10 watts per square foot. Now I run 78 watts per square foot. Ed Rosenthal was young and had a full head of hair. I use to buy huge bags of ground sterilized peat moss, perlite and vermiculite. Now my roots just hang in air. Go figure.
Shot from the past. When I first started growing under halide lighting in 1974 one 1000 watt light was the standard for a 10 foot by 10 foot grow area. That's only 10 watts per square foot. Now I run 78 watts per square foot. Ed Rosenthal was young and had a full head of hair. I use to buy huge bags of ground sterilized peat moss, perlite and vermiculite. Now my roots just hang in air. Go figure.
SimplyBaked
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lol yeh i got the Alaskan Fish emu 5-1-1 and its works great for soil and perlite mixes! ive never tried it with a hydro set-up but im more than sure it would work!
getthatskunk
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well rite now i got a plant in soil and another one in a ebb and flow system and i need some type of food for the flow system plant
getthatskunk
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im useing shultz plant food that i use for my other plants when in Veg. but im usein it in the flow system cuz its got micronutrients and its 10-15-10....am i good untill i pick up the fish stuff
SimplyBaked
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yeh u should be ok with that plant food with the micronutrients until u get the fish emu...also try a lite super thrive mix as well! Good luck homie
fatman7574
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Almost no trace (micro) nutrients in their Bloom formulation. Unless the buds get some magnesium they will definitely show signs of nutrient deficiency. Is your formulation the Bloom formulation or a basic formulation with all micronutrients? Shultz is basically a soil nutrient formulation so they expect the Bloom is added in addition to the reagular preparation, They also like most suppiers of fertilizers for soil figure the soil itself laready contains many naturally occuring micro nutrients. There should be some name other than just Schultz on the container.
Manufacturer Schultz
Product Name Bloom+
NO3 Nitrate NH4 Ammoniacal 10%
NH2 Urea Total N 10%
P (as P2O5) 60%
K (as K2O) 10%
Mg
S
Ca
Fe 0.1%
B
Mn 0.05%
Zn 0.05%
Mo
Cu
getthatskunk
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this is what it says
Total Nitrogen (N)......10%
1.6% Ammoniacal Nitrogen
0.2% Nitrat Nitrogen
8.2% Urea Nitrogen
Available Posphate (P2O5).....15%
Soluble Potash (k2O).....10%
Iron (Fe).......0.10%
0.10% Chelated Iron (fe)
Manganese (Mn).......0.05%
0.05% chelated Manganese (mn)
Zinc (Zn)......0.05%
0.05% Chelated Zinc (zn)
Derived from:Urea Ammonium and Potassium
Phosphates, potassium nitrate, iron EDTA, Manganese EDTA
and also ZInc EDTA
Total Nitrogen (N)......10%
1.6% Ammoniacal Nitrogen
0.2% Nitrat Nitrogen
8.2% Urea Nitrogen
Available Posphate (P2O5).....15%
Soluble Potash (k2O).....10%
Iron (Fe).......0.10%
0.10% Chelated Iron (fe)
Manganese (Mn).......0.05%
0.05% chelated Manganese (mn)
Zinc (Zn)......0.05%
0.05% Chelated Zinc (zn)
Derived from:Urea Ammonium and Potassium
Phosphates, potassium nitrate, iron EDTA, Manganese EDTA
and also ZInc EDTA
tea tree
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what they leave out it looks like is magnesium and calcium and that is probably cuz they know that tapwater is very rich in these things. They know the home gardener wont need to know this either. All about looks and ease and lawn type care. I wonder. I would not mind trying alaska fish 5-1-1 in a dwc with hardwater for veg and some fish emulsion 0-10-10 for flower. They might work some. I dont think your results would be anywhere near as good as pro hydro fert. These are easy and cheap and for 33 dollars with shipping yu can get general hydroponics three part. Or for free if yu right bio bizz!
Anyway dont use anything with N over 4 for flower and dont use anything with no P or a 1 P either. For flower at least go to a lowes where I have found alaska fish EMULSION with 0-10-10.
I suggest taking the plunge and hitting up some hydro companies. Money or stealth are a concern I bet. Their are easy ways around both.
Anyway dont use anything with N over 4 for flower and dont use anything with no P or a 1 P either. For flower at least go to a lowes where I have found alaska fish EMULSION with 0-10-10.
I suggest taking the plunge and hitting up some hydro companies. Money or stealth are a concern I bet. Their are easy ways around both.
getthatskunk
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so what you r say is use the one wit 5-1-1 for veg and 0-10-10 for flowing.....or do i just use one for both and if so which.................plz get back to me
fatman7574
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Other than the lack of Magnesium which cam be esailt y supllied with Magnesium Sulfate sold in every drug store as Epson slats the only other shotage is as asid the calcium. Most tap water supplies have adequate calcium. The major problem would be that border line overage of ammonical based nitrogen which will cause some ph problems while budding and the use of urea nitrogen for the nitrogen source. Urea nitrogen is a slow release nitrogen so it tends to accumalate in the reservoir and it also leads to low pH issues. It is really more of a soil media nitrogen source and is absent from nearly all quality hydro/aero nutrients formulations. It requires enzymes and bacterias to make it available to plants and most aero/hydro growers run their nutrient reserevoirs as absent from bacteria as possible.
tea tree
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I do not advise the use of alaska fish emulsion or alaska in hydro. I am sorry dudes if that is what I looked like I was saying. I forgot the newb factor. Lol. no insult. I have heard of peters being used.
Seriously I cant tell yu. Organic hydro has ph probs as the bacteria and fungal heards flucutate they will either make it more acid or more basic. Bacteria=acid and fungi=base. I would worry more about that than the N if attempting organic hydro which this newb is not. Lol. This is now some advannced thots with me and fatman I am thinking. Not very helpful for the OP.
In short I wouild hit a hydro store with free shipping.
https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/270172-first-timers-here-clean-simple.html
try that thread.
Seriously I cant tell yu. Organic hydro has ph probs as the bacteria and fungal heards flucutate they will either make it more acid or more basic. Bacteria=acid and fungi=base. I would worry more about that than the N if attempting organic hydro which this newb is not. Lol. This is now some advannced thots with me and fatman I am thinking. Not very helpful for the OP.
In short I wouild hit a hydro store with free shipping.
https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/270172-first-timers-here-clean-simple.html
try that thread.
getthatskunk
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I got every thing i need thats on ur thread im gettin the pump 2marrow and all i am missing is the dam food if any one can help me wit that
Im Good
getthatskunk
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hey guys good news i think i found a store around my area.....if you guys can help i would like to kno what i need for hydroponics...the real stuff tho....not home depot....lmao....every thing i need from food for veg and Flowering.....plz help need info soon goin 2marrow or the following day so ....plz hurry
getthatskunk
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adding to the post above this mine im sayin has any one used foxfarm and if so which one do i use for veg and which for flowing
tea tree
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awesome for getting everything on the thread. you will be happy.
for food the three part general hydroponic flora bloom, flora grow, and flora micro are cheap, easy to use and the standard. Astronauts use them. I am returning to them. It depends on weather you are using ro water or tapwater. RO is recomended. But if you use tapwater then flora micro HARWATER is a must instead of regular flora micro.
I have not tried fox farms.
I have tried pure blend pro. Only use them it you are using ro water. It is hydro organic.
I grow organic soil but I leaning toward chem hydro as it is more advanced and seems actually cleaner to me.
Pure blend pro is a two part. But you need cal mag and such.
GH three part has all you need. Use no other additves. So that is an advantage.
Or for a two part you can use flora nova grow and flora nove bloom. However only use these in ro water. If you want a twp part I recomend these. They are by general hydro as well.
for food the three part general hydroponic flora bloom, flora grow, and flora micro are cheap, easy to use and the standard. Astronauts use them. I am returning to them. It depends on weather you are using ro water or tapwater. RO is recomended. But if you use tapwater then flora micro HARWATER is a must instead of regular flora micro.
I have not tried fox farms.
I have tried pure blend pro. Only use them it you are using ro water. It is hydro organic.
I grow organic soil but I leaning toward chem hydro as it is more advanced and seems actually cleaner to me.
Pure blend pro is a two part. But you need cal mag and such.
GH three part has all you need. Use no other additves. So that is an advantage.
Or for a two part you can use flora nova grow and flora nove bloom. However only use these in ro water. If you want a twp part I recomend these. They are by general hydro as well.
getthatskunk
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i dont kno whar ro water means and i use tapwater any thing u truely recomend
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