Hydroponics Question and Answer NewGrowth Style

it's called ebb/flow or flood and drain...

pots with hydroton get flooded as the animation below depicts...

a lazy stoner's best friend...

Nice animation bro . . . .

NewGrowth said:

Nice animation bro . . . .

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it's from Al B. Fuct's gallery....

urgent problem!! so I have 4 mothers (2 strawberry cough and 2 blue cheese) in a 2 ft X 2 ft flood and drain tray. didn't intend to flower them.. wanted to keep them for clones but due to circumstances I need to flower them. 8 weeks in no problems until yesterday I noticed the leaves were drooping and the one's closest to the top colas were browning and becoming brittle. checked my drain and saw roots had grown into it clogging it... not allowing the tray to drain properly. so I'm sure the problems I'm having are due to overwatering and possible early root rot signs. what can I do for my plants??? I flushed the roots w/ water. should I stop feeding them for a day or should I continue them on their regular schedule w/ full strength nutes??? they feed 3 times a day for 20 mins. any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!

chemicalsword said:

urgent problem!! so I have 4 mothers (2 strawberry cough and 2 blue cheese) in a 2 ft X 2 ft flood and drain tray. didn't intend to flower them.. wanted to keep them for clones but due to circumstances I need to flower them. 8 weeks in no problems until yesterday I noticed the leaves were drooping and the one's closest to the top colas were browning and becoming brittle. checked my drain and saw roots had grown into it clogging it... not allowing the tray to drain properly. so I'm sure the problems I'm having are due to overwatering and possible early root rot signs. what can I do for my plants??? I flushed the roots w/ water. should I stop feeding them for a day or should I continue them on their regular schedule w/ full strength nutes??? they feed 3 times a day for 20 mins. any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!

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Let them dry out and run a high concentration of H2O2 for a couple days. You can lengthen the dry cycle and flood less often, then resume your regular flood schedule when they come back.

2-3 ml/L 35% H2O2

figured I'd share the last pics of these girls in veg...

I'll prolly flip them this week...

Damn Gypsy growing some monsters . . . . . I hope you have a chainsaw you will need it in about nine weeks.

gypsy, nice plants... I thought you were doing dwc, sog??? are you growing trees now.. did you have better yield with your trees or sog? are you still doing dwc.. or is that a flood and drain???

doniawon said:

gypsy, nice plants... I thought you were doing dwc, sog??? are you growing trees now.. did you have better yield with your trees or sog? are you still doing dwc.. or is that a flood and drain???

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I have not touched DWC in a long time.. 10 months or so...

The SOG has been ebb/flow from day one...

The trees are still vegging as you can see, so I cannot compare yields...

But the zero veg SOG is way more efficient... I did not like having my big lights on so long just to veg...

Everything I have and had going on in the last 8 months has been ebb/flow... including the trees...

Cheers...

what's going on guys? I'm a noob and I'm trying to figure out if it's "safe" to order hydro supplies online with my own information, i'm working on my first grow pretty soon, I've been just reading, and studying since I joined the site, by the way it's awesome keep up the good work, I'll probably be using the supercloset deluxe as well, thanks in advance

NewGrowth said:

Let them dry out and run a high concentration of H2O2 for a couple days. You can lengthen the dry cycle and flood less often, then resume your regular flood schedule when they come back.

2-3 ml/L 35% H2O2

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thanks a million man. I've fed them one time in the last 24 hours. I've cut off the severely damaged fan leaves.... hoping I'll be able to tell if my plants are showing signs of improvement. I'll start w/ the high concentration of hydrogen peroxide immediately... twice a day??
about how many ml/ gallon???

chemicalsword said:

thanks a million man. I've fed them one time in the last 24 hours. I've cut off the severely damaged fan leaves.... hoping I'll be able to tell if my plants are showing signs of improvement. I'll start w/ the high concentration of hydrogen peroxide immediately... twice a day??
about how many ml/ gallon???

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A gallon is 4 liters so just multiply by 4.

2-3ml/L is 8-12ml/G

Once a day should be fine and cut back when they start to show improvement.

grownavy1091 said:

what's going on guys? I'm a noob and I'm trying to figure out if it's "safe" to order hydro supplies online with my own information, i'm working on my first grow pretty soon, I've been just reading, and studying since I joined the site, by the way it's awesome keep up the good work, I'll probably be using the supercloset deluxe as well, thanks in advance

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Yes it is safe . . . hydroponic supplies are completely legal

Sometimes you can get better deals if you buy loyally from a local hydro retailerkiss-ass

cool, thanks alot man you've saved me some fingernails. lol. I can't wait to get started. one more question, If I get the 600 watt HPS I should probably get the CO2 injection kit that comes with the setup as well huh? (supercloset.com) the deluxe. i'm just worried about getting refills of the co2 if I need it. it comes with a 400 watt, and I'll be growing between 8-10 plants maybe 2.5'-3.5' ft. is the 400 watt enough? or should I grab the 600 watt?

grownavy1091 said:

cool, thanks alot man you've saved me some fingernails. lol. I can't wait to get started. one more question, If I get the 600 watt HPS I should probably get the CO2 injection kit that comes with the setup as well huh? (supercloset.com) the deluxe. i'm just worried about getting refills of the co2 if I need it. it comes with a 400 watt, and I'll be growing between 8-10 plants maybe 2.5'-3.5' ft. is the 400 watt enough? or should I grab the 600 watt?

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I would wait on the CO2 until you have done a few grows, CO2 makes things happen fast . . . .

Those things are cool but kind of pricey and there is not much space in there for plant growth, keep them small and harvest more often.

For a cheaper alternative build your own . . . . check out Kilobit's grow he built some cabs for a much more reasonable price that work great for him.

he's got a nice setup, and if there was a setup that I could follow then I guess I would give it a try and save the money, I mean I've got it to burn, and I'll be doing it right outta my single car garage, but I don't have any tools, so thats why it was an option i guess. thanks for the advice and the quick response. so do you think 3 ft. is short enough?

grownavy1091 said:

he's got a nice setup, and if there was a setup that I could follow then I guess I would give it a try and save the money, I mean I've got it to burn, and I'll be doing it right outta my single car garage, but I don't have any tools, so thats why it was an option i guess. thanks for the advice and the quick response. so do you think 3 ft. is short enough?

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Three foot plants as a final size maybe if you start flowering at three feet then expect 6-7 ft plants . . . .

grownavy1091 said:

he's got a nice setup, and if there was a setup that I could follow then I guess I would give it a try and save the money, I mean I've got it to burn, and I'll be doing it right outta my single car garage, but I don't have any tools, so thats why it was an option i guess. thanks for the advice and the quick response. so do you think 3 ft. is short enough?

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I'd recommend a single cola SOG...

DeweyKox has an awesome 600w set up...

and his 5" clones give him up to 1 oz...

check...

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/175322-white-rhino-belladonna-27.html

DeweyKox said:

DeweyKox

Veteran Smoker
Mr. Ganja

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And here are some of my examples of SOG...

4 plants per square foot is the common single cola lollipop spacing for SoG...



here... clones.. packed tight in RW cubes..


















as the clones get rooted, the get poted into 5.5" square pots...










then the pots are packed in as tight as I can get in my tray...

7 rows of 7, minus one for the fittings...

like this... SoG...











did that make sense?

4 plants per square foot is the max recommended without crowding...

regardless of size light...

choose your tray for the light...

1k 4x4 - 63 lollipops

600 3x3 - 48 lollipops


never used a 400 so I dunno...

I hope that helps...



Another resource for SOG is Al B. Fuct's https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/6592-get-harvest-every-2-weeks.html

Remember you can scale this style of grow from one plant every 2 weeks to 10 thousand... your imagination is the limit..

My SOG has run on a daily basis... putting out an oz a day, everyday...

Anyways.. here is some of Fuct's PROVEN ideas...

Al B. Fuct said:

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Mr. Ganja

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And I should also mention that all this has been accomplished using ebb/flow...

like the animation illustrates...

ohoh was I a party pooper???

I can delete it NG...

Naw your posts are great Gypsy . . . . I remember your homemade tent!

Maybe you can take over this thread soon too . . . . I'm going to the other side after my current grow. All organic soil . . .