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NewGrowth

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quick question i have a 400w mh for my veg, as soon as i see a sprut would you recommend putting the seedling under the mh or cfl? if cfl what wattage? im really unclear on this way to start my babies!

You can put them under the 400w just make sure it is far away so you don't burn your young seedlings.

how do you determine the amount of water you need of the x ammout of plant? like say i wanna put 10 site how much liter i need for the res
About one liter per plant is a good rule, more for larger plants.
 

karlt2005

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i have the mh about 2 ft at the min any good or closer?
i also need to know what ppm to start them at? i was going to start at 300ppm for the first 2 weeks and then bump them up! what do you recomend?
 

NewGrowth

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i have the mh about 2 ft at the min any good or closer?
i also need to know what ppm to start them at? i was going to start at 300ppm for the first 2 weeks and then bump them up! what do you recomend?
When they get their second set of true leaves you should be able to start them off at 350-500 ppm. Two feet should be fine, a little higher if you are in a tight space.
 

karlt2005

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thanks newgroth your a really big help!!! just one last question lol sorry to bother you my ph mas was at 5.6 some time yesterday afternoon i have just checked it at 8am the next day and its now 6.0 is this bad? should i put it back down to 5.6? i red some where to leave it for 3 days then alter it back to what it was, but there again i know big ph jumps can be bad what do you think?
 

Matty10

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Well some drift is to be expected. I agree 470 ppm would be very low for plants five weeks old. How much water are they using? The drift is consistent which is a good sign. How do the plants look? Is the growth healthy? I would run 820 and watch the rise over a few days, it might stabilize at some point. Do you have any Ph flux?



Cool man keep us updated. :peace:
Again I appreciate this!!!

The plants look great. I am just a worried papa. This being my first grow ever, I have been asking every possible question. I guess the only thing I can say is that I kind of expected them to be taller by now, but oh well right. (Unless I am doing something wrong in that regards.) Although, i did find 2 leaves that look bad on 1 of my OG plants. I did my best to take some photos, but my camera is not that good.

About the stabilization, that is a great idea, I did not know I can do that. Lets say that it eventually stabilizes around 1400, does that mean I should feed them at that ppm?

My ph flux is very minimal.

Finally, I did pre-soak my rock wool before placing the clones into them. What I think my problem was that maybe light was getting to the root zone. I have one of those grow tubs and I filled it with hydroton then placed the rockwool on the tops of the rocks. I did this so i could lift them to examine whether or not the cubes were ready for watering again. I just recently dug out all the rocks and and placed the cubes near the bottom of the tub and spread the rocks around them.

Pics:
#1 all 4 of my children
#2 my girls
#3 White Widow
#4 OG (my smallest)
#5 OG (my largest)
#6 Jack the Ripper
#7 Leaf problem on largest OG
#8 Leaf problem on largest OG

Thank You,

Matty
 

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locknarstone

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Hello all. Ok so i have a plant growing in my closet in a little nook i have. i have a totaly home made hydro set up never done it befor. I saw my friends setup and said to myself (Hey i can do that for half the price with household items) so i tryed it and this is what i have gotten sofar. im useing 2 35 gal cat litter pails stacked in eachother the one on the inside of the first pail has drip holes for all water to leach back into the bottom pail and then i have a return line to the reservoir . (pick to follow) i also have a towl wrapped around the buckets to keep the light out. i have nutes in my reservoir 1/2 tsp per gallon right now of flora nova in a 4 gallon bucket. i have a 250w growlight on (16 on & 8 off) to flower. im not sure hot to set my drip timmer,(need help). my roots are alittle dark and need help with that too.. any advice i can get would be great
 

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doniawon

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12/12 to flower 12 on 12 off.. your plants pretty big you should use the recomended dose of the nova GROW.. although i think your using BLOOM. cut your light cycle up the nutes and get some more LIGHT.. red spectrum if possible..
you could oh just bought a 5 and 3 gallon bucket and made this alot easier.. the gaps on the side of that bucket are pobably light poisoning and drying out your dangling roots.. they do look a little brown.. nova makes em' a little darker but???????
 

doniawon

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actually the 250 is fine just lower it and use a fan... hope this helps

looks good for a first time.. keep them wheels turnin'
 

locknarstone

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I do have white cardboard slats that i put over the the tope of the plant to keep the light from going in they just arnt in the pics
 

locknarstone

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i also have a fan set up to that you also dont see in the pick.. its at a constant 79-80 degrees in my little nook.. thanks for input any more would be great
 

NewGrowth

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thanks newgroth your a really big help!!! just one last question lol sorry to bother you my ph mas was at 5.6 some time yesterday afternoon i have just checked it at 8am the next day and its now 6.0 is this bad? should i put it back down to 5.6? i red some where to leave it for 3 days then alter it back to what it was, but there again i know big ph jumps can be bad what do you think?

Some Ph drift is fine, let it all drift for a few days as long as it is not major or extreme then let it go.


Again I appreciate this!!!

The plants look great. I am just a worried papa. This being my first grow ever, I have been asking every possible question. I guess the only thing I can say is that I kind of expected them to be taller by now, but oh well right. (Unless I am doing something wrong in that regards.) Although, i did find 2 leaves that look bad on 1 of my OG plants. I did my best to take some photos, but my camera is not that good.

About the stabilization, that is a great idea, I did not know I can do that. Lets say that it eventually stabilizes around 1400, does that mean I should feed them at that ppm?

My ph flux is very minimal.

Finally, I did pre-soak my rock wool before placing the clones into them. What I think my problem was that maybe light was getting to the root zone. I have one of those grow tubs and I filled it with hydroton then placed the rockwool on the tops of the rocks. I did this so i could lift them to examine whether or not the cubes were ready for watering again. I just recently dug out all the rocks and and placed the cubes near the bottom of the tub and spread the rocks around them.

Pics:
#1 all 4 of my children
#2 my girls
#3 White Widow
#4 OG (my smallest)
#5 OG (my largest)
#6 Jack the Ripper
#7 Leaf problem on largest OG
#8 Leaf problem on largest OG

Thank You,

Matty
Hey Matty your plants look pretty good, very dense look like they have been topped.

How often are your drip lines running? When I grow in the big rockwool cubes I like to flush them with fresh water every couple of weeks because they can collect nutrient salts after a while which can also cause Ph drift and PPM flux. I would also cover the root zone with panda plastic to stop algae growth, and prevent light in the root zone. This will also require you to water less often because water will not evaporate so readily.

im no expert dude but is that a zinc def? is your ph high?
Possible but unlikely, micronutrient problems are rare and usually caused by Ph problems.

Hello all. Ok so i have a plant growing in my closet in a little nook i have. i have a totaly home made hydro set up never done it befor. I saw my friends setup and said to myself (Hey i can do that for half the price with household items) so i tryed it and this is what i have gotten sofar. im useing 2 35 gal cat litter pails stacked in eachother the one on the inside of the first pail has drip holes for all water to leach back into the bottom pail and then i have a return line to the reservoir . (pick to follow) i also have a towl wrapped around the buckets to keep the light out. i have nutes in my reservoir 1/2 tsp per gallon right now of flora nova in a 4 gallon bucket. i have a 250w growlight on (16 on & 8 off) to flower. im not sure hot to set my drip timmer,(need help). my roots are alittle dark and need help with that too.. any advice i can get would be great
I would add some H202 to your rez to help with the brown roots. 35% @ 1.7ml/L. I would try a drip cycle of 15 on 15 off since it seems like you system drains well. What is it set at now? Plant looks healthy.:weed:

What strain are you growing? Most commercial strains will flower with a 16 hour on light cycle but some require a longer dark cycle, indicas in particular.

Dont understand (Zinc Def)??? can you be more specific?? ph is about 5-6
He was talking about Matty.
 

NewGrowth

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12/12 to flower 12 on 12 off.. your plants pretty big you should use the recomended dose of the nova GROW.. although i think your using BLOOM. cut your light cycle up the nutes and get some more LIGHT.. red spectrum if possible..
you could oh just bought a 5 and 3 gallon bucket and made this alot easier.. the gaps on the side of that bucket are pobably light poisoning and drying out your dangling roots.. they do look a little brown.. nova makes em' a little darker but???????
I just noticed that too.
 

doniawon

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newgrowth great answers and nice great thread ill give you dubs on the props.. ++rep

my question.. Which are better? short clones or longer clones .. i know longer clones are are better for the height and time factor.. but it seems that shorter clones get tighter spaceing between nodes???what length do you use and prefer.. im going for sog 1 oz plants and in this setup which has 2 gals. but are being switched to 1's for SOG..
 

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NewGrowth

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newgrowth great answers and nice great thread ill give you dubs on the props.. ++rep

my question.. Which are better? short clones or longer clones .. i know longer clones are are better for the height and time factor.. but it seems that shorter clones get tighter spaceing between nodes???what length do you use and prefer.. im going for sog 1 oz plants and in this setup which has 2 gals. but are being switched to 1's for SOG..
Depends on what you are doing. I like larger clones because as soon as they root I put them in flower. Also in a SOG the taller clones allow for some air-flow under the canopy. My clones are about 5-6"
 

doniawon

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what is the average yeild of the bi-weekly or weekly etc.. lot you pull per plant???
i have always grown for big trees and i am realizing that i coulb possibly get another # or 2 from a SOG.. so im wanting to make the switch.. ???
 

locknarstone

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the strain im growing is a clone of ether Vortex Or Space Queen gottem mixed up when my buddy gave it to me so its eatherone lol (I DONT KNOW)!!!!!!!!!!!
 

NewGrowth

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what is the average yeild of the bi-weekly or weekly etc.. lot you pull per plant???
i have always grown for big trees and i am realizing that i coulb possibly get another # or 2 from a SOG.. so im wanting to make the switch.. ???
We will see right now I am testing out a new vertical aeroponic set up. I have some stuff on order as well I just bought a camera and I'm going to build a scaled down system for a closet. The closet set up will not be vertical but it will be similar, I have set up a couple for med patients and gotten great results.

With flood tables under 1000w I have been able to pull 1-2oz per plant. Aeroponic yield has been even better. Twelve plants SOG under a 1000w in aero got one patient over a pound dry weight.

Check back here in a week or so, I'll post a link to the construction journal once I get started. :peace:
 

doniawon

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another question ?? can you use 1" rockwool cubes in an ezcloner?? i have one and have never used it, i like the old school method i guess.. but for a SOG i was thinkin i could clone and veg in the ez cloner up to 6-8" as per ur suggestion.. and go to the 1 gallons to the bloom room in the 1 gallon pots..
im just so use to rockwool or oasis for cloning .. i think im scared of this ezcloner.. every use one any tips>????

vertical aeroponics sound intrestin
 
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