hydroponics simple steps

hotwheelszac

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okay, ive never grown hydroponics and im wondering if i could do this as a simple method:

get a seed, put it in rock wool, throw it in a bucket of water. do this for 2 seeds. then get a hose, and have them siphoning into each other. then ill prob get an easy grow kit that tells me what chemicals to put in. then i have a 400 watt light to put over it. and ill do the 24 hours of light, then switch to a 12 12 for flowering.

does this sound like a good, simplified, newbie way to start off on hydroponics?

is there anything im leaving out?
 

hotwheelszac

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i watched all the videos, they were very informative.

im definatly going to make a bubble bucket.

my question is, what kinds of chemicals do you put in the water, and how much?

and also, do you just germinte the seed ? or how do you start the whole process?
 

KaliKitsune

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Alright, let's start with some basics.

In hydroponics systems, you use nitrate solutions. Nitrates are plant-ready and water-soluble. You don't need bacteria to convert ammonia and urea-based nitrogen sources into nitrates, like you do in soil. Your main nutrients are Nitrogen (N), Phosphorous(P), and Potassium(K). In most of your garden-store variety shops, you'll find powder fertilizers that have mainly urea and ammonia sources of N , and plenty of nitrate forms of P and K. These types of fertilizers are near-useless unless you modify them by adding other nitrates to boost the immediate concentration of plant-ready N. Not a really viable method economically, but if you've already got a large stock of regular fertilizer, buying some nitrates to add in with the mix might save you a trip to the hydro shop or online store.

At a hydroponics store, you'll find liquid nutrients, specially designed for hydroponics culture. Good ones will come with a grow, bloom, and micro-nutrient solution. Basic ones will have a grow and bloom with the micro-nutrients pre-mixed. Some shops even carry just suspensions of one particular thing, like copper sulfate, for certain plant types. don't use those unless you're a pro.

For a starting plant, you don't use anything but bubbling water for the first couple of weeks while the root system gets developed and can support the plant. After it has established itself and produced more than four sets of true leaves, you can start by using 1/8 of the bottle's suggested strength. Mix in your micro-nutrients first before you put in grow or bloom, and make sure your water is set to a decent pH first before putting anything into the water. For hydroponics, 5.8-6.0 is good pH for beginners.

After a week or so of 1/8 strength, if nothing bad is happening, try upping it to 1/6 or 1/4 strength. After a week, if it has tolerated it and grown nicely, bump to 1/3 or 1/2. Let that cruise at that strength for a week or longer if you're getting the desired rate of growth, then when you're ready, bump it to full strength. Keep your pH checked four or five times daily, and if they deviate, use some pH up or down (you can find this at a pool supply store) or natural sources like baking soda and vinegar to keep it in check. And remember, use grow for vegging, and bloom for flowering. When you're about two weeks from harvest, start using regular water to flush out anything that the plant has not used and has stored up.

Now, for germinating your seed. Put your seed inside of a moist and folded (but not too moist,) paper towel. Put it inside of a plastic bag that you can seal up, and set it in a warm place with little light for a few days. Sometimes they germinate in a day, sometimes they take longer. When the roots are about a quarter of an inch out of the seed, get a rockwool cube, about 2"x2"x2", and poke a hole in it just a tiny bit larger than the seed, about half an inch down. Set the little seedling root first into it and get the rockwool cube moist, then set the rockwool cube down into the hydroton. Make sure the reservoir level is just a little bit above the bottom of the rockwool cube so it gets bubbles.

That pretty much sums up a quick go-over for starting cannabis in hydroponics. a little out of order but if you read it and pay attention this should get you through your grow without much trouble. Just remember to keep that air pump in the bucket running 24/7, and make sure you're pumping a good amount of air through the airstone.

Oh, and as your plant gets larger, you can drop the reservoir level down and let the top roots have some air exposure, and let the rockwool cube dry out. This will help prevent fungus growth on the stem.
 

hotwheelszac

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alright, sweet

so when the plant is in the rockwool, and in the bucket of water, how much of the rockwool should touch water? is it completely submerged? or 1/2 way submerged? it was hard to tell in the video where the water level was.

thanks alot
 

KaliKitsune

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Well, in my video I'm not using rockwool. :)

But you want the rockwool to just barely touch the bubbling solution.
 

hotwheelszac

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i thought those little balls were like rockwool marbles. what was it anyway?

so just barely touching it? okay will do
 

comptown

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KaliKitsune

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Here is another option, using a round bucket. Here's a link I found with detailed steps

http://forum.grasscity.com/general-indoor-growing/121335-lets-build-bubble-bucket-step-step.html

you might also want to check out the net pot lids that a lot of hydro stores are carrying now. works out to be a little cheaper than buying the regular lid and net pot, then doing the work yourself.

http://www.betterthannature.com/catalog/product_info.php?currency=USD&products_id=58

:peace:
I'm curious as to how it works out cheaper. I also have round buckets, but using buckets from things that came stored in buckets is a zero-cost thing. Recycling saves on costs. A little pot to turn into a net pot costs maybe all of 15 cents or it's free if you bought it with a plant in it that you moved to another container. The power to run a Dremel for the two minutes you'll need per bucket is practically nil. The capful or two of bleach and half gallon of water to clean the buckets and pots out before use is pretty much nil cost as well.

Buying a bucket and net pot, per bucket, cost about $10 at the hydro store. Using stuff that came with other stuff - nada! I'd save on the construction costs and would have more left over for maybe building a refill or drainage reservoir or maybe even better pumps and air stones.
 

hotwheelszac

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kalikitsunes way is cheaper, cause its free. but for me, i dont have cats, or laundrty detergent buckets or anything. so in my case it will be cheaper to buy that stuff from a hydro store. (instead of buying cat food, then just dumping it out)

when i saw the air hose, and the idea of a pump, and the air stone, i thought of the set up i have in my fish tank, could a fish tank air pump and hose and air stone? or do hydro shops carry all that stuff? and also which would work better and be more economical. for fish tanks, pumps are usually $10 every 10 gallons its designed for. ex: a 30 gallon pump is $30
 

comptown

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I'm curious as to how it works out cheaper. I also have round buckets, but using buckets from things that came stored in buckets is a zero-cost thing. Recycling saves on costs.
I was only referring to the bubble bucket tutorial. instead of buying a bucket, lid, and netpot, then going through the hassle of putting it all together, just buy a netpot bucket lid. recycling would definitely be cheaper and the way to go if you could.

:peace:
 

KaliKitsune

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I was only referring to the bubble bucket tutorial. instead of buying a bucket, lid, and netpot, then going through the hassle of putting it all together, just buy a netpot bucket lid. recycling would definitely be cheaper and the way to go if you could.

:peace:
Ahh, gotcha, I was confused.

Though honestly, with a Dremel, it's not much of a hassle to put a netpot lid together and cut root slits on the pot. Maybe another minute of time of construction compared to buying stuff from the hydro store and just plopping it together.
 
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