I am a newbie and i need help :)

ok there is something wrong with my plants I try everything but couldnt able to fix it I have 2 plants that grow really beautiful but right before I was gonna go to flowering it start to give me a heat stress or I thought it was heat so I fix the heat ph of the water flush the plant checking the temp every day what is the max temp and what is the lowest temp. nothing so i am here iam gonna post some pictures and i need your help. pls help me i dont wanna lose them while they are already grown .

Wow. Your plants look really fucked up. If you want us to help, tell us everything. The ph, the nutes you're using, and how much and how often you're using them, the type of soil and lights. How close are the lights, what's your ventilation. Jesus. Those look rough right now.

I'd say you have about 2 days before they are completely dead. So start typing.

leaves at the bottom are really healthy but the ones at the top are crawling . I use fox farms soil , I have 150w hps light light is at least 40 inch above the light I am not using any nutes right now but before I used fox farm streiliezer bloom and grow big. temputer of the room is between 76 80 humid is %45

I spray some water on them ph 6.5 I give water in every 2 days. before my ph was little lower around 6 5.5 but i fixed that I am a beginner it was growing really nice but it start to have stress . what should i do bottom leaves are healthy .

To me it looks like heat. And it looks like it got hot bad.Try to keep the temp under 75.

these are the leaves at the bottom and a whole picture of the plant and the box of the light i am using. i just took right now

i live i California it was really hot 3 weeks ago maybe it happen at that time but there is a lot of information online i try to fix it it didnt die yet I dont know what to do should i keep giving nutes ?

Okay, stop spraying the leaves with anything while the lights are on. Start there.

How much of the Fox Farms were you mixing and with how much water did you mix the nutes? It looks to me like your shit has gone neartoxic (ie you've nute bombed the hell out of them). The Fox Farms soil already has nutes in it, so you've piled some on top of that. I need to know how much nutrient you were adding and how often and how much water you were mixing it with?

In the mean time, get your plant and take it into the bathtub. Slowly run lukewarm water through the pot for fifteen minutes, flushing everything out of the soil. It's time for a full on flush. Heat might be another issue, but it's not your main issue here. The leaves are telling a poisonously high level of nutes type story.

It's not something that happened three weeks ago. It's happening right now, in your soil. Flush with warm water, now. Flush out everything. Your plant is dying.

Yes your new pic's tell a different story and it now most certainly looks nute related. flush the plant and don't feed it for a couple of waterings and see how it does.

Also it still looks heat stressed to me, do you have a fan blowing just over the plant to move the heat?

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PaxEtBonum said:

It's not something that happened three weeks ago. It's happening right now, in your soil. Flush with warm water, now. Flush out everything. Your plant is dying.

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I use this chart http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/images/pdf/SoilENG.pdf andi only did once at week 4 cuz it start curling and my local hrophonics guy told me to check the temp and give these nutes. so i give them 3 tea spoons of grow big and big bloom in a gallon of water.
and only feed them once . so how warm water should be to flush?

Popcorn900 said:

Yes your new pic's tell a different story and it now most certainly looks nute related. flush the plant and don't feed it for a couple of waterings and see how it does.

Also it still looks heat stressed to me, do you have a fan blowing just over the plant to move the heat?

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I have one of those 6 inch fans
i am gonna be more careful with the heat now and I will flush. so giving a water for 15 min is ok ?

^yes but I would just pour water in until you get a good flow coming out the bottom and just look at it is it sticky slimy red brown ect just flush till it looks clear and then you should be fine.

Coser said:

I use this chart http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/images/pdf/SoilENG.pdf andi only did once at week 4 cuz it start curling and my local hrophonics guy told me to check the temp and give these nutes. so i give them 3 tea spoons of grow big and big bloom in a gallon of water.
and only feed them once . so how warm water should be to flush?

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That chart is incorrect. Start by giving no more than 1/4 strength what that chart says, until you know the strain you're working with. Also, at four weeks, your soil still had plenty of nutes in it. The curl you noticed early on was probably from either too much water or not enough water.

You want to rinse a lot of water through that container to get the soil cleaned up from all those nutes. After you do this, expect your plant to wilt a little bit, or even a lot bit, that is its natural reaction to getting a lot of water and it will be fine after a few days. If you don't rinse those nutes out, that plant is dead, so do it. Just leave it alone after you rinse it and let it start to get balanced out again.

You'll need to work on your temperature issues separately. For now, get the nutes out. It's being poisoned. Even the lower leaves are not healthy, that super dark green is nitrogen excess.

PaxEtBonum said:

That chart is incorrect. Start by giving no more than 1/4 strength what that chart says, until you know the strain you're working with. Also, at four weeks, your soil still had plenty of nutes in it. The curl you noticed early on was probably from either too much water or not enough water.

You want to rinse a lot of water through that container to get the soil cleaned up from all those nutes. After you do this, expect your plant to wilt a little bit, or even a lot bit, that is its natural reaction to getting a lot of water and it will be fine after a few days. If you don't rinse those nutes out, that plant is dead, so do it. Just leave it alone after you rinse it and let it start to get balanced out again.

You'll need to work on your temperature issues separately. For now, get the nutes out. It's being poisoned. Even the lower leaves are not healthy, that super dark green is nitrogen excess.

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one more question how long do i have to wait to give water again after the flush ?

thank you guys I really appreciated it takes lots of time and one mistake kills it all and it is not like an animal that you understand what is wrong in a minute thank you for your help I ll keep posting now I ll have to flush these babys

Coser said:

it start to give me a heat stress or I thought it was heat

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If your plants did suffer heat stress, that is as bad as it looks, it is over, there is nothing you can do... everything will be a waste of time...
If they seem to have stopped growing, but ya still have some green under leaves, it has a 10% chance to make it... do nothing, if it stops taking up water... it's done, it will act like PH lock out, but it's not, you just cooked it... Sorry... I had an AC unit go out this year like you, I wanted to save them... slowly every plant broke my heart...
Good Luck...

Sand4x105 said:

If your plants did suffer heat stress, that is as bad as it looks, it is over, there is nothing you can do... everything will be a waste of time...
If they seem to have stopped growing, but ya still have some green under leaves, it has a 10% chance to make it... do nothing, if it stops taking up water... it's done, it will act like PH lock out, but it's not, you just cooked it... Sorry... I had an AC unit go out this year like you, I wanted to save them... slowly every plant broke my heart...
Good Luck...

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It isn't heat stress. Not at the temperatures he's saying he's had, and the fact the the last heat spell was three weeks ago. And the fact that it hardly looks like heat stress at all. It's nutrient toxicity.

OP, after you flush it. Pick it up with one hand and feel how heavy the container is. Don't water it until it feels very light. Another test is to stick your finger in the soil. If it's dry up to your first knuckle, then give it some water. You'll get the hang of it. The plant might not make it, but you'll do way better next time. Remember: less is often more. The plant is programmed by nature to survive with light, soil, and water. A little nutrients go a long way when you're starting out.

After you flush it really good, I'd give it three or four days before I'd even think about watering it. Just let it have the lights and some nice air to breathe and let it recover. It's in shock right now and time is the only cure for that.

Expect some of the current leaves to continue dying off, but stay positive and hope for some nice new healthy growth. If I were you, I'd hold off two weeks or so before throwing them into 12/12, if they make it. They'll need time to recover and get balanced out. Good luck and don't lose hope. You might have overloved your girl a little bit, but you'll learn from it, and fingers crossed you'll even get to say "I can't believe it survived all that punishment" when you're harvesting a few nice buds off of it in a few months.