GrowSpecialist
Well-Known Member
Yeah sure. The cops are gonna break the law just to get your IP. If they illegally obtain info used to bust you, they have no case.
Thats right.
I dont know what all the bitchin is about...
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smartsoverambition
Well-Known Member
How to obtain an IP address:
- From the Windows XP default Start menu, select Control Panel. From the classic Start menu, select Settings, and then Control Panel.
- From the Control Panel menu on the left, click Switch to Classic View.
- Double-click Network Connections.
- Right-click Local Area Connection and select Properties.
- From the General tab, click the Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) text, and make sure the checkbox is checked. Click Properties.
- Click Obtain an IP Address Automatically, and then click OK.
smartsoverambition
Well-Known Member
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica] Answer [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica] The InetAddress class gives the programmer a solution to this problem through a process called resolution. When an IP address is obtained from an host name we call this Host Name Resolution with the opposite (obtaining a host name from an IP address) called Reverse Host Name Resolution The process of resolution is accomplished via various services such as Domain Name System (DNS) and Network Information Service (NIS).
InAddress provides various static methods, which return an initialized instance.
static InetAddress getByName(String host)
static InetAddress getByAddress(byte[] host)
static InetAddress[] getAllByName(String host)
static InetAddress getLocalHost()
The method that we want to use is the first one which simply takes a host name as an arguement in the form of a String.
// Host name resolution
InetAddress ina = InetAddress.getByName("www.sun.com");
System.out.println(ina2.getHostAddress()); //209.249.116.195
The hostname can even be represented as the loopback address. InetAdress ina = InetAddress.getByName("localhost");
System.out.println(ina2.getHostAddress()); //127.0.0.1
if(ina.isLoopbackAddress()){ // true
System.out.println(ina.getHostAddress() + "is a loopback!");
}
InetAddress Caching
InetAddress caches positive resolutions indefinetly. The reason for the positive cache is to guard against such attacks as spoofing. Negative caching is also used to improve performance with a default cache time of 10 seconds. Say we are trying to do a reverse host name lookup.
InetAddress ina = InetAddress.getByName("209.249.116.195");
System.out.println(ina.getHostName());
After running the previous code snippet we see that the 209.249.116.195 resolves to 209.249.116.195 and not Sun Microsystems. It is only after a positive host name resolution that an InetAddress initialized from an IP address yields a host name. ina1 = InetAddress.getByName("www.sun.com");
System.out.println(ina1.getHostAddress()); //209.249.116.195
ina2 = InetAddress.getByName("209.249.116.195");
System.out.println(ina2.getHostName()); //www.sun.com
that's another method if u want i just feel the need to prove my point
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[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica] The InetAddress class gives the programmer a solution to this problem through a process called resolution. When an IP address is obtained from an host name we call this Host Name Resolution with the opposite (obtaining a host name from an IP address) called Reverse Host Name Resolution The process of resolution is accomplished via various services such as Domain Name System (DNS) and Network Information Service (NIS).
InAddress provides various static methods, which return an initialized instance.
static InetAddress getByName(String host)
static InetAddress getByAddress(byte[] host)
static InetAddress[] getAllByName(String host)
static InetAddress getLocalHost()
The method that we want to use is the first one which simply takes a host name as an arguement in the form of a String.
// Host name resolution
InetAddress ina = InetAddress.getByName("www.sun.com");
System.out.println(ina2.getHostAddress()); //209.249.116.195
The hostname can even be represented as the loopback address. InetAdress ina = InetAddress.getByName("localhost");
System.out.println(ina2.getHostAddress()); //127.0.0.1
if(ina.isLoopbackAddress()){ // true
System.out.println(ina.getHostAddress() + "is a loopback!");
}
InetAddress Caching
InetAddress caches positive resolutions indefinetly. The reason for the positive cache is to guard against such attacks as spoofing. Negative caching is also used to improve performance with a default cache time of 10 seconds. Say we are trying to do a reverse host name lookup.
InetAddress ina = InetAddress.getByName("209.249.116.195");
System.out.println(ina.getHostName());
After running the previous code snippet we see that the 209.249.116.195 resolves to 209.249.116.195 and not Sun Microsystems. It is only after a positive host name resolution that an InetAddress initialized from an IP address yields a host name. ina1 = InetAddress.getByName("www.sun.com");
System.out.println(ina1.getHostAddress()); //209.249.116.195
ina2 = InetAddress.getByName("209.249.116.195");
System.out.println(ina2.getHostName()); //www.sun.com
that's another method if u want i just feel the need to prove my point
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potroastV2
Well-Known Member
Sorry but you are wrong, for them to get your ip address they need access to this server, or hack your connection but if they hack your connection then they know where u live so whats the point ?
Yes you can obtain your own ip address by going to control panel but do you let the cops goto my control panel... again if they could they wouldnt need to find your location by ip would they
They can do a reverse dns like your code you have there but again they would need a hostname.... really i dont get what you are trying to prove. Someone can find out THEIR OWN IP address sure thats easy but for you to figure out mine would be near impossible for you.Unless i gave you my mouse and you clicked my control panel
Yes you can obtain your own ip address by going to control panel but do you let the cops goto my control panel... again if they could they wouldnt need to find your location by ip would they
They can do a reverse dns like your code you have there but again they would need a hostname.... really i dont get what you are trying to prove. Someone can find out THEIR OWN IP address sure thats easy but for you to figure out mine would be near impossible for you.Unless i gave you my mouse and you clicked my control panel
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GrowSpecialist
Well-Known Member
Thats how you get your OWN IP.
GrowSpecialist
Well-Known Member
smarts doesn't know anything about this. He/she is simply googling.
GrowSpecialist
Well-Known Member
Exactly. .............Sorry but you are wrong, for them to get your ip address they need access to this server, or hack your connection but if they hack your connection then they know where u live so whats the point ?
Yes you can obtain your own ip address by going to control panel but do you let the cops goto my control panel... again if they could they wouldnt need to find your location by ip would they
They can do a reverse dns like your code you have there but again they would need a hostname.... really i dont get what you are trying to prove. Someone can find out THEIR OWN IP address sure thats easy but for you to figure out mine would be near impossible for you.Unless i gave you my mouse and you clicked my control panel
mane2008
Well-Known Member
Oh idk much about that part of cpu tech, should learn a lil more though.
mane2008
Well-Known Member
Well as long as ya server aint fucked with everybody good right?Sorry but you are wrong, for them to get your ip address they need access to this server, or hack your connection but if they hack your connection then they know where u live so whats the point ?
Yes you can obtain your own ip address by going to control panel but do you let the cops goto my control panel... again if they could they wouldnt need to find your location by ip would they
They can do a reverse dns like your code you have there but again they would need a hostname.... really i dont get what you are trying to prove. Someone can find out THEIR OWN IP address sure thats easy but for you to figure out mine would be near impossible for you.Unless i gave you my mouse and you clicked my control panel
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
hey grow bro,
N this is just for the sake of debate, not to be a dick, but for the cops to hack a forum admin account based on probable cause would not be illegal man. Like i said if they wanted to, all they would have to do is come on here and it would be like shootin fish in a barrell. Anyone that has a grow journal or any one of us that have posted pics of our grows is automatic probable cause for them to do whatever they have to do via the net to obtain our ip addresses. But like i said, i wouldnt be sweatin or anything. Where im at its a $100 fine no probation no jailtime no nothing for up to 200 grams. N there have been somethin ike 6 time repeat offenders that still get hit with nothing more than a $100 ticket and have their plants n equipment yanked. So really, would it be worth it for ANY law enforcement to come on here and try to bust us for 3-10 bitchass plants? i seriously doubt it, and if there WERE anything like that happenin, i would fuckin laugh in a cops face if he tried to tell me he busted me from my online use in these forums. I would laugh n call him a lifeless doughnut eating piece of shit ass bandit for spending his time in a fuckin weed forum lookin for people to bust, n then id whip out my cock n mushroom stamp his fuckin forehead, n go to jail for a REAL reason, instead of because this fuckin piece of shit gets a hardon everytime he puts away a nonviolent drug offender who dont deserve to fuckin be in jail EVER in the fuckin first place.
Anyways, that wasn't even the point i was trying to get across when i started the thread, u know? I was just pointing out to the other newbies out there that if they dont "make friends" with the entire RIU family within a week of joining up, they shouldn't get butthurt about it, cuz were(and i say were meaning "stoners, growers/smokers/growersANDsmokers, dealers, ect...")just a type of people that aren't automatically just gonna say fuck it n trust every joe schmoe that joins up. We actually have to hang out n let people see that were cool sons o bitches, n we aint goin nowhere - n people will eventually warm up n start talkin. I mean, i dont mean to be speaking for the entirety of our culture(so to speak), but thats how I am, and just about everyone i know is like that too. Its from years and years of dealing with drug dealers,or in some cases years n years of dealing with(orTO,lol) drug addicts, n shady motherfuckers who you dont trust as far as you can throw(I do not associate drug addicts n shady motherfuckers with one another, although we all know that alot of the time the two terms do apply to the same person, lol), or having a tight circle of friends that rarely expands. Its just the way things have been, and probably will always be in our real lives. Just cuz were on the internet dont mean that we drop all of our sketchy ass habits as far as meeting new people go, in some cases it gets even worse, hehe.
Enough cop talk man, im gettin fuckin itchy, lol.
N this is just for the sake of debate, not to be a dick, but for the cops to hack a forum admin account based on probable cause would not be illegal man. Like i said if they wanted to, all they would have to do is come on here and it would be like shootin fish in a barrell. Anyone that has a grow journal or any one of us that have posted pics of our grows is automatic probable cause for them to do whatever they have to do via the net to obtain our ip addresses. But like i said, i wouldnt be sweatin or anything. Where im at its a $100 fine no probation no jailtime no nothing for up to 200 grams. N there have been somethin ike 6 time repeat offenders that still get hit with nothing more than a $100 ticket and have their plants n equipment yanked. So really, would it be worth it for ANY law enforcement to come on here and try to bust us for 3-10 bitchass plants? i seriously doubt it, and if there WERE anything like that happenin, i would fuckin laugh in a cops face if he tried to tell me he busted me from my online use in these forums. I would laugh n call him a lifeless doughnut eating piece of shit ass bandit for spending his time in a fuckin weed forum lookin for people to bust, n then id whip out my cock n mushroom stamp his fuckin forehead, n go to jail for a REAL reason, instead of because this fuckin piece of shit gets a hardon everytime he puts away a nonviolent drug offender who dont deserve to fuckin be in jail EVER in the fuckin first place.
Anyways, that wasn't even the point i was trying to get across when i started the thread, u know? I was just pointing out to the other newbies out there that if they dont "make friends" with the entire RIU family within a week of joining up, they shouldn't get butthurt about it, cuz were(and i say were meaning "stoners, growers/smokers/growersANDsmokers, dealers, ect...")just a type of people that aren't automatically just gonna say fuck it n trust every joe schmoe that joins up. We actually have to hang out n let people see that were cool sons o bitches, n we aint goin nowhere - n people will eventually warm up n start talkin. I mean, i dont mean to be speaking for the entirety of our culture(so to speak), but thats how I am, and just about everyone i know is like that too. Its from years and years of dealing with drug dealers,or in some cases years n years of dealing with(orTO,lol) drug addicts, n shady motherfuckers who you dont trust as far as you can throw(I do not associate drug addicts n shady motherfuckers with one another, although we all know that alot of the time the two terms do apply to the same person, lol), or having a tight circle of friends that rarely expands. Its just the way things have been, and probably will always be in our real lives. Just cuz were on the internet dont mean that we drop all of our sketchy ass habits as far as meeting new people go, in some cases it gets even worse, hehe.
Enough cop talk man, im gettin fuckin itchy, lol.
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
N this is the last thing ill say on cops getting our IPs. Just because someone has not fucked with your server wouldnt mean that your good mane. Like i said, somebody could hack a HOST account on RIU without fucking with a server at all. The host account would have to have each and every one of our email addresses im assuming. And once they have that, it would just be a matter of a few steps before they found whoever the fuck they would wanna find. sucks right?
Anyways, they aint fuckin with us mane, dont sweat man. Aint gonna fuckin happen. we are in no god damn danger. Fuck this shit, i gotta fuckin blaze.
ill shoot back in a few
-K1.
GrowSpecialist
Well-Known Member
Thats not true. You're talking to an admin of a forum of my own. They need enough cause to get a judge to sign a warrant. In that case, they wouldn't have to hack the admin account. they could simply show up at his residence and force him to give them the IP of the people they are interested in. I'll step out of this conversation now. The admin of this site has already told you how it works.
potroastV2
Well-Known Member
All good points... my main concern on this forum is user security I do everything in my power to keep everyone safe, ips are not logged database is wiped every 4 hrs.
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
Real quick though - what the shit is that?? is that some java based code?? i got an associates in programming, n that code is a little different than code you would use to hack an account to get ip information. All you would really need is the hash that goes with these forums from the host account, and then convert the hexidecimal hash code attached to the forum to decimal form, and then you would have the host ip. For instance, lets say the hosts hash is AX9799p3_45e6(which is just a bunch of numbers i slammed my hand on the keyboard - dont trip, lol) - convert that to decimal, and you would get an ip, which would look like 255.255.255.0 only it would be an actual ip. Its alot simpler than all that yibbidy jibbidy java bullshit bro. I saw the webbie u got that from(InetAddress (Java 2 Platform SE v1.4.2)), n Inet is total bullshit, and NOT EVER used to hack somebodies account information. EVER.
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
rollitup was talking about the cops hacking his account to gain access to his personal information, not everyone elses. If someone just wanted to gain access to an account so they could get everyone elses information, they could do it without ever letting a host or admin know they accessed their account. How easy would it be for a cop to show up at a hosts residence, force him to give up information, n dip out, n then all our host would have to do is contact any one of us via email, and tell us what just happened (if hes not in jail,lol). The general idea would be to get in and out without letting people know that they are being monitored. Bah - i hate convos like this. Ten people have their own opinions, and the convo never gets anywhere, lol.
Lets just stop talking about cops n hacking accounts, and start talking about how cool this forum is, and how newbies just need to hang tight and be cool, and all will be well in this stoners community - which was my original point to begin with
AGREEEEEEEEEEDDDD??
good.
-K1.
Chiceh
Global Mod, Stoner Chic
Yes this site is so cool and Newbies are people too. Welcome all newbies!!!!!!!!!
