I think it’s septoria but I’m a noob. Help!

KeyLimeRye said:

Cant fix by doing a top dress & adding something like recharge every water? If he found out his root zone PH, and you say buffer capability is only to a certain point.. and he is passed that point, could he benefit from a flush w/ a certain PH water...Move that needle a bit? Or he’s @ point of no return now? like to learn and also feel bad for this dude, want to help lol

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He can add amendments to reactivate but the thing is it will reactivate really slowly. He doesn't have time for that.

His best bet is Flush for a week to get out any built up salts from nutrients that couldn't get taken up and then Ph ever watering and feeding to 6.3-6.5.

I'd Ph the flush as well.

Its not a lost cause imo

However this is all based on the possibility its a Ph related issue.

Which it could or could not be.... we havent drilled deep enough with him to know.

Ya the whole it being an auto flower thing kind of hurts him in that regard, @ the same time at least he learned this on an auto. I heard some ppl claiming they don’t PH the flush @ end. So I tried it on 1 plant, didn’t get good fade like the others, all it did was make the leaves look crinkly lol

KeyLimeRye said:

Ya the whole it being an auto flower thing kind of hurts him in that regard, @ the same time at least he learned this on an auto. I heard some ppl claiming they don’t PH the flush @ end. So I tried it on 1 plant, didn’t get good fade like the others, all it did was make the leaves look crinkly lol

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I dont flush my plants at all in the final week but that Is a whole other conversation. Lol

Wizzlebiz said:

No I dont really see the issue tbh.

Pic a topic presented and ask questions.

For example. He mentioned Ph possible issues.

So if you dont know much about that begin asking questions.

If you have never Phd your water it might be a good place to start. If you have Ph nailed down and have no questions about that move to the next topic.

Systematically break down the topics.

General rule of thumb if you are seeing things being said that you don't know about its probably part of the issue for your plants.

Just dig a little. Ya dig?

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Ok. I it was early in the morning, maybe nobody was at their best. Regardless I apologize for my part in it

KeyLimeRye said:

Couple things I noticed and will compare w/ my experience in FFOF. Something to consider. I never PH’d my water, and I never added calmag. And my leaves never looked wonky like yours do. I will say, my tap comes out around 7 PH and 150 ppm, So maybe I didn’t need to alter much? Idk I’m not a scholar... but from my understanding soil has natural PH buffering capability, and you could pour loads of low or high PH water through w/o affecting root zone PH very much. If you’re using phosphoric acid for ph down, there’s P in that. NER (nutrient element ratios) are important thing to keep in check i.m.o.... If I were you, I’d try ditching the calmag and using a balanced food w/ not just a bloom boost. If anyone w/ more experience / knowledge wants to correct anything I’ve said that they know to be false, please do. This is all from memory and mines bad lol

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Thanks for the response! I do ph my water to 6.5 but my ph pen may be inaccurate. I have ordered a new one and a soil ph tester. I wouldn’t know but I’m leaning away from it being ph related, being that ffof has ph between 6.3-6.5 and I ph my water and I have barely fed them besides cal mag and even the cal mag I mixed up was on the light side. Yeah there are just so many people claiming cal mag is like a necessity it’s hard to get away from but you are not alone in dismissing cal mag so it’s something to consider.
Do you have a preference on a balanced food? I have read that ff trio is a good choice. I haven’t been feeding them during veg besides cal mag so I haven’t used the big bloom, they seem really happy during veg and I have read autos are sensitive to nutes, plus ffof has a good amount of nutes to start with so I just haven’t. Maybe I should.

Wizzlebiz said:

He can add amendments to reactivate but the thing is it will reactivate really slowly. He doesn't have time for that.

His best bet is Flush for a week to get out any built up salts from nutrients that couldn't get taken up and then Ph ever watering and feeding to 6.3-6.5.

I'd Ph the flush as well.

Its not a lost cause imo

However this is all based on the possibility its a Ph related issue.

Which it could or could not be.... we havent drilled deep enough with him to know.

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Thanks for sticking with the thread. Yeah I ph my water to 6.5 and ffof is phed to 6.3-6.5. I have only fed them once besides cal ma, do you still think I should flush? if the problem is overwatering wouldn’t a flush hurt? Let me ask you this. It’s been 2 weeks since I hit them with 2ml of tiger bloom in a gallon of water. That is the only feeding I have done. The pots should be ready for water in the next day or 2. Should I hit them with 2 more ml of tiger bloom and wait a day or 2 before committing to a flush?

Hrrmph said:

Thanks for sticking with the thread. Yeah I ph my water to 6.5 and ffof is phed to 6.3-6.5. I have only fed them once besides cal ma, do you still think I should flush? if the problem is overwatering wouldn’t a flush hurt? Let me ask you this. It’s been 2 weeks since I hit them with 2ml of tiger bloom in a gallon of water. That is the only feeding I have done. The pots should be ready for water in the next day or 2. Should I hit them with 2 more ml of tiger bloom and wait a day or 2 before committing to a flush?

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If I read correctly you have only given them tiger bloom correct?

Here is fox farms schedule. The top 3 are kind of mandatory for your plants when the soil is wasted of nutrients.


You will notice that they have grow big running up until 3 weeks before harvest. That is a nitrogen rich formula. 6-4-4 big bloom is a 0-5-5 and tiger bloom is a 2-8-4. Barley any nitrogen in tiger bloom and none in big bloom. The grow big keeps your leaves happy and green.

The schedule and the proper nutrition is very important.

But it is also important to note that giving your plants the reccomended dose on the bottle or on the scedule is not a good idea at all. It can burn your plants badly.

Begin with 25% of reccomended and go from there.

I 1st considered Ph because I assumed the nitrogen was locked out.

But now I am thinking you are deficient in a coiple of nutrients.

I suggest getting grow big and big bloom and following that schedule. It makes a ton of difference.