"If you do not believe in climate change, you should not be allowed to hold public office"

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    "Politicians who don't believe in climate change should not hold public office, said actor Leonardo DiCaprio Monday at the White House before the screening of his new climate documentary.

    "The scientific consensus is in and the argument is now over," DiCaprio said at the White House's South By South Lawn event.

    "If you do not believe in climate change, you do not believe in facts, or in science or empirical truths and therefore, in my humble opinion, should not be allowed to hold public office."

    DiCaprio screened his film "Before the Flood," a documentary about climate change. Ahead of the screening, he spoke on a panel with President Obama.

    Obama called for the development of new technologies to address climate change, but stressed changes in policy and attitudes wouldn't happen overnight.

    "Climate change is almost perversely designed to be really hard to solve politically. It is a problem that creeps up on you," Obama said.

    "The political system in every country is not well designed to do something tough now to solve a problem that people will really feel the impact of in the future."

    In the film, DeCaprio travels to Greenland, the Pacific Islands, Sumatra and industrial regions of China to show the impacts of climate change.

    DiCaprio, and the film's director, Fisher Stevens, hope to use it in the run-up to next month's presidential and Senate elections, according to The Guardian.

    They plan to show it on college campuses and across swing states. It will be released via National Geographic later this month."

    The Hill

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    squarepush3r Well-Known Member

    Sept. Arctic Ice Beats Expectations
    Posted on 2 Days Ago by Ron Clutz

    August 2016 was the final report of the Sea Ice Prediction Network (SIPN) before the actual September monthly extent is reported by NOAA Sea Ice Index (SII). The report (here) gave this overview:


    This month the median pan-Arctic extent Outlook for September 2016 sea ice extent is 4.4 million square kilometers (km2) with quartiles of 4.2 and 4.7 million km2, which is slightly higher than July’s value (4.3 million km2) (See Figure 1 in the full report, below). If the median Outlook should agree with the observed estimate come September, this year would be the third lowest September in the satellite record. The spread in the Outlook contributions narrowed slightly from July to August, with an overall range this month of 3.7 to 5.2 million km2.


    The chart shows the September monthly sea ice extents from NOAA and MASIE. Both datasets show 4.5 M km2, above what was predicted, about 200k km2 higher than 2007.

    In MASIE, September 2016 finished as the fourth lowest, ahead of 2012, 2007 and 2008, slightly behind 2011.

    Some had anticipated a late Arctic cyclone might again produce a lower number, as it did in 2012. But as the chart shows, 2012 is looking increasingly like an outlier, interrupting a steady recovery of ice extents since 2007.
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    Done saving the planet, Leo? Di Caprio hops from his helicopter into a gas-guzzling private jet as he leaves Saint Tropez just hours after his celebrity eco fundraiser
    • DiCaprio pictured leaving St Tropez Thursday via helicopter and private jet
    • He had hosted The Leonardo DiCaprio Foundation Annual Gala To Fund Climate And Biodiversity Projects
    • The gas guzzling jet appears to undermine his authority to preach on carbon emissions
    • Gala raised almost $45 million for various conservation projects
    • Among the celebs attending were Mariah Carey and Paris Hilton
    By Alexandra Genova For Dailymail.com

    Published: 16:45 EST, 22 July 2016 | Updated: 07:22 EST, 23 July 2016

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    Eco warrior wannabe Leonardo DiCaprio is back doing what he does best: Fighting for the environment while simultaneously contributing to its demise.

    On Wednesday, DiCaprio hosted his annual eco fundraiser gala, which saw an impressive cast of A Listers descend on St Tropez to raise funds for various conservation projects.

    'We are the last generation that has a chance to stop climate change before it is too late,' the Oscar winner told the crowd.

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    Environmental activist Leonardo DiCaprio (pictured with Tobey Maguire second left and Vincent Larescahops left) from helicopter to gas guzzling private jet in Saint Tropez after his celebrity eco fundraiser

    DiCaprio was pictured donning a pair of camouflage shorts, a purple T Shirt and a straw hat as he made his way across the tarmac in the heat with friends Tobey Maguire (second from left) and Vincent Laresca (left)

    DiCaprio was then pictured minutes later talking on the phone and sucking on a vaper, as he was carted across the runway by in a buggy.

    There seemed be just a handful of passengers making their way on to the private jet, whose fuel on average produces 21 pounds of carbon dioxide emissions per gallon burned

    But his sentiment would be more believable had he not hopped off a helicopter to board a gas guzzling private jet two days later.

    And to add insult to injury, he was driven by golf buggy across the airport runway for the short distance between the two.

    DiCaprio was pictured donning a pair of camouflage shorts, a purple T Shirt and a straw hat as he made his way across the tarmac in the August heat with friends Tobey Maguire and Vincent Laresca.

    He was then pictured minutes later talking on the phone and sucking on a vaper, as he was carted across the runway by buggy.

    There seemed be just a handful of passengers making their way on to the private jet, whose fuel on average produces 21 pounds of carbon dioxide emissions per gallon burned.

    He also flew in a bevy of models for the occasion and stuck them on a luxury 300ft yacht.

    Critics will be quick to note that the actor's private jet trips undermine his moral authority to preach reducing carbon emissions.

    Critics will be quick to note that the actor's private jet trips undermine his moral authority to preach reducing carbon emissions

    The star of 'The Revenant' was in town to host his annual charity gala; raising approximately $45 million for environmental causes and research. Left: McGuire gets onto the jet, Right: DiCaprio hops on board

    But perhaps he is hoping this will be offset by the almost $45 million that was raised to support The Leonardo DiCaprio Foundation Annual Gala To Fund Climate And Biodiversity Projects.

    The black-tie fundraiser held in a French vineyard was attended by do-gooder Bono, famous receiver of dodgy diamonds Naomi Campbell, and a smattering of other party-hard pals.

    In a speech that heralded the start of the lavish affair, he told the star-studded crowd: 'While we are the first generation that has the technology, the scientific knowledge and the global will to build a truly sustainable economic future for all of humanity—we are the last generation that has a chance to stop climate change before it is too late.'

    His intentions may be good, but his unashamed weakness for luxury travel does him little favors if he genuinely wishes to be the savior of Planet Earth.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...z-celebrity-eco-fundraiser.html#ixzz4M5u5vu8d
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    tangerinegreen555 Well-Known Member

    Sea ice is seasonal, very thin and means nothing compared to massive glaciers breaking off the western plane...melting glaciers actually can add to sea ice.

    Try again.
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    UncleBuck Well-Known Member


    the indefatigable "but leonardo dicaprio defense!!!!"

    well that certainly defeats the mounds of scientific research about migration patterns, temperature averages, massively increased CO2 levels, and the like.

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    Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches New Record Maximum
    Editor’s note: Antarctica and the Arctic are two very different environments: the former is a continent surrounded by ocean, the latter is ocean enclosed by land. As a result, sea ice behaves very differently in the two regions. While the Antarctic sea ice yearly wintertime maximum extent hit record highs from 2012 to 2014 before returning to average levels in 2015, both the Arctic wintertime maximum and its summer minimum extent have been in a sharp decline for the past decades. Studies show that globally, the decreases in Arctic sea ice far exceed the increases in Antarctic sea ice.

    On Sept. 19, 2014, the five-day average of Antarctic sea ice extent exceeded 20 million square kilometers for the first time since 1979, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. The red line shows the average maximum extent from 1979-2014.
    Credits: NASA's Scientific Visualization Studio/Cindy Starr

    Sea ice surrounding Antarctica reached a new record high extent this year, covering more of the southern oceans than it has since scientists began a long-term satellite record to map sea ice extent in the late 1970s. The upward trend in the Antarctic, however, is only about a third of the magnitude of the rapid loss of sea ice in the Arctic Ocean.

    The new Antarctic sea ice record reflects the diversity and complexity of Earth’s environments, said NASA researchers. Claire Parkinson, a senior scientist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, has referred to changes in sea ice coverage as a microcosm of global climate change. Just as the temperatures in some regions of the planet are colder than average, even in our warming world, Antarctic sea ice has been increasing and bucking the overall trend of ice loss.
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    Skeet Kuhn Dough Well-Known Member

    Well if you do not believe that mankind can seriously alter the earth's ability to sustain life as we know it.... :arrow: http://www.livescience.com/9899-happened-hole-ozone-layer.html It is unbelievable to think that there are still some deniers. I have a lot of fun on this site and never take too many differing theories on politics or whatever personally. Obviously everyone is different and will have differing opinions. That is what America is about, multiculturalism among other things. But the fate of our planet is where I draw the line. Ever heard of the Great Pacific Garbage Patch? :arrow: http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/garbagepatch.html We should take responsibility for the future of our descendants. By the way, the Earth might be on the way to a sixth mass extinction in its history, and it is humankind's fault :arrow: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...tinction-scientists-say-and-its-humans-fault/ Some people are liberal, others conservative. Some want beef, others chicken. It's all rather subjective, really. And that is okay. But in the word's of Neil Degrasse Tyson, "science is not there for you to cherry pick." Real science is telling us this is a threat to Earth.

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    squarepush3r Well-Known Member

    so plastic garbage is a threat to earth, or climate change is a threat? Are they the same issues or different issues?
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    Skeet Kuhn Dough Well-Known Member

    Totally similar in the way that mankind can shape the environment. I understand that climate change has occurred throughout the history of the planet. Indeed, once upon a time it was a big ball of ice. What is in fact alarming is the speed in which it has occurred.
    How much has the global temperature risen since 1880?
    Averaged over all land and ocean surfaces, temperatures warmed roughly 1.53 degrees Fahrenheit (0.85 degrees Celsius) from 1880 to 2012, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (see page 3 of the 2013 summary report). Because oceans tend to warm and cool more slowly than land areas, continents have warmed the most. In the Northern Hemisphere, where most of Earth's land mass is located, the three decades from 1983 to 2012 were likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 1,400 years, according to the IPCC. https://www2.ucar.edu/climate/faq/how-much-has-global-temperature-risen-last-100-years
    Jeremy Deaton writes about the science, policy, and politics of climate and energy for Nexus Media. You can follow him at @deaton_jeremy. Deaton contributed this article to Live Science's Expert Voices: Op-Ed & Insights.

    If you watched this year's State of the Union address, you might remember President Barack Obama's frustrated nod to congressional climate change doubters.

    "Sixty years ago, when the Russians beat us into space, we did not deny Sputnik was up there," Obama said. "We did not argue about the science or shrink our research and development budget. We built a space program almost overnight, and 12 years later we were walking on the moon."

    Despite decades of research, too many U.S. politicians still deny climate change , a phenomenon so thoroughly documented as to find agreement among virtually every leading body of American scientists — NASA, NOAA, the National Academy of Sciences, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the American Geophysical Union and the American Meteorological Society, just to name a few. And yet, climate contrarians continue to reject the science and muddy the waters of public understanding.

    Here, in an effort to set the record straight, are five facts about climate change everyone needs to know.

    1) Climate change never took a break.

    You may have heard that, according to satellite data, there has been no significant warming for the last 18 years. This is grossly misleading. Eighteen years ago, El Niño drove up global temperatures , making 1998 an exceptionally hot year.

    Contrarians use 1998 as a baseline because subsequent warming appears modest by comparison. However, the mercury has continued its inexorable rise. Since the 1880s, average temperatures have risen 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit, on average. 2015 was the hottest year on record, according to NOAA, and 2016 will likely be even hotter.

    2) The climate is changing faster than at any point in the history of human civilization.

    Climate change doubters are fond of saying that climate is always changing. That is correct, and in fact, that's the problem. Atmospheric physicist Michael MacCracken, chief scientist for climate change programs at the Climate Institute, explained in an interview, "If climate had been steady in the past when there had been all kinds of things acting — volcanoes or solar or changes in the orbit or something — then you would think climate is pretty robust and can't change, but what we've discovered is relatively small changes in the past have changed the climate a great deal."

    Today, we are unloading more than 30 gigatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere each year, according to the International Energy Agency. All that carbon pollution is cranking up the global thermostat to sweltering levels. According to the journal Science, temperatures are rising faster than they have in the last 10,000 years, since the beginning of human civilization.

    3) Humans are causing climate change.

    Some have suggested that current global warming is the result of natural variations in the Earth's climate. Unfortunately, humans are very much the cause of climate change. Carbon pollution from cars, trucks, planes, power plants, factories and farms are the central driver of global warming. Carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases are trapping heat , causing global temperatures to rise, altering the climate. According to a 2014 report from the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the world's largest general scientific society, we now know that humans are causing climate change with at least the same certainty that we know smoking tobacco causes lung cancer.

    4) Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree.

    Contrarians like to say that scientists disagree about global warming. And yet, a peer-reviewed study published in a leading academic journal has found that roughly 97 percent of climate scientists agree that humans are causing climate change. James Powell, director of the National Physical Sciences Consortium, argues on his website that the consensus is actually closer to 99.9 percent of climate scientists.

    If you're a topical expert — researcher, business leader, author or innovator — and would like to contribute an op-ed piece, email us here.
    There is no serious debate about who or what is responsible for global warming. America's satirical flagship, The Onion, might have put it best: "New Climate Change Study Just 400 Pages Of Scientists Telling Americans To Read Previous Climate Change Studies."

    5) Climate change poses a serious risk.

    The latest talking point from climate change doubters is that a little global warming just isn't a big deal. Sure, a few degrees of warming may not sound like a lot, but small changes in the average temperature of the Earth can have dramatic consequences. Hotter weather means the atmosphere can hold more moisture, leading to both more drought and more severe storms. Warmer temperatures also threaten to melt the polar ice caps, raising sea levels. And that's not to mention ocean acidification, whereby the world's oceans absorb excess atmospheric carbon dioxide and turn more acidic.

    In every way, climate change is rendering our home a dangerous place. If left unchecked, drought, storms and rising seas will mean less freshwater and less arable land. This could lead to widespread shortages of food and water, mass migrations and armed conflict. As novelist Margaret Atwood wrote on Medium, "It's not climate change. It's everything change."

    The persistent and pernicious myths about climate change — that it's not real, that it's not our fault, that it's not a threat — distract from the real conversation that needs to happen about policy: How should the United States move to clean power? How should cities prepare for more severe storms and coastal flooding? How should families use less energy?

    The science is settled. The solutions are there. It's time to get to work. http://www.livescience.com/53554-five-facts-that-show-earth-is-getting-warmer.html
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    squarepush3r Well-Known Member

    Is that temperature data original data, or has it been changed? Has historical temperature data been changed recently, or unchanged? If historical temperature data has been changed, why has it been changed?
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    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    your penis is literally unbelievably tiny.
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    Skeet Kuhn Dough Well-Known Member

    97% of climatologists vs. your 3% of deniers.
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    OddBall1st Well-Known Member

    It just went from Summer to Autumn. I`m fit.

    OddBall1st Well-Known Member

    Nature would never pollute the planet.


    Not only in the sky, but she`ll shake the ground and move the Tidelines.........

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    OddBall1st Well-Known Member

    Stop driving, ride a pedal bike. Row, row, row your boat too.

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    Skeet Kuhn Dough Well-Known Member

    I'm quoting what 97% of climatologists have come up with. It isn't one of those 50/50 things. 97%, man.
    And nobody said we had to pedal a bike to work. It sure would help if we became more responsible, though.
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    Skeet Kuhn Dough Well-Known Member

    Yes she would. We've already had five mass extinctions.
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    Big_Lou Well-Known Member

    Global warming deniers, lol. And just when you thought that Drumpfsters couldn't get ANY dumber! But then again, as history shows us, even abject facts are often disputed by those with an agenda/lack of cognitive ability. Deeeeerrrrppppppp

    "I got mah TV tuned tah FOX all day, I jack off to that show 'COPS', and I rarely leave mah trailer cause stuff is SCARY out-a-doors!! G-g-g-g-g-GHOSTSSS!"

    Don't bother, man; you are trying to shine light on a void and fearful 'mind'. Think of it as trying - in vain - to teach basic mathematics to a field of goats. These drones are just that.

    OddBall1st Well-Known Member

    So don`t try to out run it.

    Man`s greatest harm to this planet is something Nature herself could not do. That`s deposit a few hundred pounds of Iodine-129 into the Pacific Ocean and Atmosphere in the 50`s and 60`s. I-129 happens naturally in very small amounts deep underground. It needs the heat from molten Earth to occur . It`ll take Nature 20 million+ years to wait that out.

    Don`t pick on the gas burners, pick on the shipping that transports marine life all over the place where it is not supposed to be and harms habitats.

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