I'm Ready- Blue OG, White Lavender, OG #18, and Sour Kush.

hbbum

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Looks great. But I do have to ask. Is there a good reason to go seed instead of clone if both options are available to you? I only ask since I can pick up clones very easily but still am tempted by seeds. But it seems seeds add a lot of negatives.

Longer grow time, sexing, additional electric cost, chance of no germination. What am I missing on the plus side, or is it strictly availability?
 

dannyboy602

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Is there a good reason to go seed instead of clone?
Longer grow time, sexing, additional electric cost, chance of no germination. What am I missing on the plus side, or is it strictly availability?
Only seed grown plants will develop a tap root. The tap root anchors the plant into the ground and because of its size brings a lot of water and nutrients into the plant. I believe I read that plants grown from seed grow faster BECAUSE of the tap root. Sexing is eliminated if you grow femanized seeds. And I rarely can't get a bean to pop. If I could and it was cost efficient I would rather ONLY grow from seeds.
 

g00sEgg

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Looks great. But I do have to ask. Is there a good reason to go seed instead of clone if both options are available to you? I only ask since I can pick up clones very easily but still am tempted by seeds. But it seems seeds add a lot of negatives.

Longer grow time, sexing, additional electric cost, chance of no germination. What am I missing on the plus side, or is it strictly availability?

Don't forget the good ol' pheno hunt.
 

prosperian

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Looks nice Pros. What type of water do you use?
Thanks bud. Just using tap water. I have a couple 5 gal jugs I use for my fish tank and the plants.
I will use the fish tank water one of these days. Just haven't worked it into my routine, but my outdoor plants love it.




Looks great 2 me! Didn't note any burnt tips or anything! :mrgreen: keep it up! Btw. How long are you going 2 veg um? :??:
I just use green touch up paint when I fry the tips, don't you? I'm sure I will burn a few along the way. I plan to transplant to three and five gal geo pots if they fit. Probably a week after the last transplant I will go into flower. How long? Don't know, I will just have to wait and see how they grow. Very slow start, but that was my fault. I wasn't planning on having six plants, really planned for four and dropping two out later. Thx!




Looks great. But I do have to ask. Is there a good reason to go seed instead of clone if both options are available to you? I only ask since I can pick up clones very easily but still am tempted by seeds. But it seems seeds add a lot of negatives. Longer grow time, sexing, additional electric cost, chance of no germination. What am I missing on the plus side, or is it strictly availability?
Thx, Dannyboy covered some good reasons to use seed and I trust anything he says because of his quality choice in signatures. Bmeat where are you? :lol:

I don't have the clone option, so seeds were a pretty easy decision. Plus, I can buy seeds and store them until I want to grow. Some of these guys on here have hundreds of seeds and they make their own. It's pretty cheap that way!




Don't forget the good ol' pheno hunt.
Yes, we are always looking for the magic plant that will give us amazing bud and make us a sandwich. I will definitely clone that! ;-)
 

spliffbuddy

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Hi Prosperian, been following your grow, looks like you are now back on track and seedlings growing well, great thread and like everyone says, how do you keep so organised, I never seem to find the time to do what I need to. Just a quick heads up. I noticed you are growing a White Lavender, was it a freebie from Attitude? I've just been growing one and it was going great, great bud growth 3 weeks into flower and then I went to check on my girls to find it had hermied, I think I've caught it in plenty of time so not too worried. Have been thinking if I did anything wrong and caused any stress throughout the grow but cannot really think of anything, temps ok, no nute issues, ph fine, have a moisture meter so only water when the meter tells me to. Like I said the plant was growing great so not sure what could have caused it. May have been something I've done but not sure what, my other girls are also fine. ( Pineapple Express, Holy Grail Kush & Liberty Haze). As it was a freebie just wondering if there may be something in the genetics which is why they are giving them away. Just thought i'd share the info so you can keep a look out. Good luck with your grow and happy harvesting.
 

prosperian

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Hi Prosperian, been following your grow, looks like you are now back on track and seedlings growing well, great thread and like everyone says, how do you keep so organised, I never seem to find the time to do what I need to. Just a quick heads up. I noticed you are growing a White Lavender, was it a freebie from Attitude? I've just been growing one and it was going great, great bud growth 3 weeks into flower and then I went to check on my girls to find it had hermied, I think I've caught it in plenty of time so not too worried. Have been thinking if I did anything wrong and caused any stress throughout the grow but cannot really think of anything, temps ok, no nute issues, ph fine, have a moisture meter so only water when the meter tells me to. Like I said the plant was growing great so not sure what could have caused it. May have been something I've done but not sure what, my other girls are also fine. ( Pineapple Express, Holy Grail Kush & Liberty Haze). As it was a freebie just wondering if there may be something in the genetics which is why they are giving them away. Just thought i'd share the info so you can keep a look out. Good luck with your grow and happy harvesting.
Thanks for the compliment and your post. Yeah I'm organized in some areas in my life, others, not so much! Think my Dad drove into me about keeping a clean work area and I have ever since. Building a stealth setup and having a successful grow in a 2X3 closet was a challenge. It's rewarding to look into a room and see plants growing in there. Also gives me a reason to get up early everyday.

Sorry to read about your herm, it happens and it sucks when it does. Five of the plants in this current grow were freebies from Attitude last year. Attitude is a broker and when they run promotions it's to "promote" the breeders. I'm in marketing and it would be a disadvantage to give away bad promo products. The objective is to get growers to invest the time into the free seed, produce great bud, and as a result, buy more seeds and tell their friends. Throwing a batch of bad seeds in there would do more harm than good, wouldn't you think?

I haven't been growing cannabis long enough to be much help on hermed plants, but I have learned from reading on here and other places Mother Nature can be a real bitch. Good luck on your grow and drop some pics and updates on here when you can.




I just use green touch up paint when I fry the tips, don't you?

Sig worthy! Don't be surprised if you see me with it some day, LOL:clap:
You know if enough members see that signature, someone will eventually give it a try and state it helped their plants! RIU can be a scary place!
 

mycomaster

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You did such a great job at bringing those girls right back to the look of health itself. You have definitely got a green thumb bro, some people do and some don't. I think your skills at reading your plants and trouble shooting problems are for sure solid. Lookin great man. Peace out.
 

Bakatare666

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You know if enough members see that signature, someone will eventually give it a try and state it helped their plants! RIU can be a scary place!
Ya man, I was rethinking the use of that........
Some people just don't catch on to sarcasm, and like you say....... it will end up being tried like these.:lol:
Tape wont work and I dont want to wood glue it
i shit next to my plants everyday,
my bathroom always smells good and my weed taste/smells excellent ;D
Stick dryer sheets in your bag of weed.
It will make the weed smell / taste like dryer sheets.
i tried to glue the head back on but it didnt work.
i had it taped together with breathable tape at first, but i was drunk and angry
and decided it wasnt good enough and glued it..which killed the head immediately.
she has been through a lot.
 

Slipon

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LMAO !! :D to funny what Ppl write


"love" this one:

I use forums to save time and avoid doing research. I feel pretty good about it.



 

prosperian

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Update: 4 weeks since dropping seeds. I did some topping last night on all except the auto flower. Photos are 9 hours after cuts. They don't appear to be phased by the topping. I plan on this being my only cut or modification for the rest of the grow. We will see.

Last grow was an all natural no trimming or lst-ing. Curious to see the differences beyond the 4 vs. 1 cola. I have changed a lot of things from my first grow, hopefully for the better.









 

prosperian

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HAPPY FATHERS DAY to the RIU growers and members out there!

My oldest boy surprised me with some cigars, Cohibas. The other two got me a gift certificate for fish for my tank. :mrgreen:

Plants still chugging along after topping a couple days ago. Bumped up the shelf closer to the light. I really like the rack shelving. It comes in real handy when making adjustments. Don't have to touch the light.



Getting good air movement between the air pots using the wire shelving and the fan down below. No temperature issues since separating the light and room exhaust into two separate systems. 78-80 degrees 37-45% RH.





Here are couple more pics of the snips.



After two weeks in the Organic Roots Potting Soil I have added no extra nutes, just water.

Don't see any toxicity or deficiency, got to love that.



Below is the 3-branch white lavender. Growing strong, just weird looking. Mutant buds, yum.

 

prosperian

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Everybody is nice and green and showing good growth. Pics with the HID off just before watering.
They're drinking 32 oz. every other day from 1 gal Geopots with Roots Organics soil.


Maybe another week or two for transplant to 3 gallon?



#1 Blue OG - smoking buddy thought it was called Blue Orgy, hmm, maybe. #5 Diesel auto slow but growing.



#2 White Lavender getting bushy. Really likes the Roots potting soil.



#4 Sour Kush developing nicely from the topping. Little leaf curl I've noticed for awhile, soil might be too hot (nutes) for strain.



#6 Mystery Seed is getting a nice fat main stem. #3 OG18 behind it with nice topped branches and a couple large fan leaves.
 

mycomaster

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Handsome family of girls you have there Prosperian. They really have bounced back since the yellowing and topping, you would never think they've gone through any of that by looking at them. Take it easy man, Peace out.
 

trueg115

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Maybe ive missed it but are all of these feminized? If not, how many plants total are you hoping for? I know last time you only had a total of 4 and now you have 6
 

prosperian

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Handsome family of girls you have there Prosperian. They really have bounced back since the yellowing and topping, you would never think they've gone through any of that by looking at them. Take it easy man, Peace out.
It's all about giving things a try and making adjustments. Newbs are misled into thinking there is a magic list of instructions and equipment for a perfect grow. There are no cheat sheets in gardening, just good old sweat and tears.

I learned my lesson with those plastic cups and seedlings earlier in this grow. They needed a lot more drainage holes and another 30-50% extra perlite next time. I knew there something wrong when I stopped seeing growth on top. Roots were dying down below from sitting in the over saturated soil.

Last time I went from peat pots directly to 3 gal plastic containers without any amendments just soil. That's not good either, learned that lesson as well. At least I'm learning and not embarrassed to say it, lol! Later!


Maybe ive missed it but are all of these feminized? If not, how many plants total are you hoping for? I know last time you only had a total of 4 and now you have 6
Hey True, yeah five of the seeds are feminized. One is a bag seed thrown in there for grins and one is an auto. Really focused on the four females but the other two may or may not make it to harvest in this grow room depending on (male/female bag seed) and pulling the auto early.

I'm really concerned about getting six 5 gallon Geopots into that grow room, but I have them ready to go. I will know better about space once I move to the 3 gallon containers.
 

Bakatare666

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It's all about giving things a try and making adjustments. Newbs are mislead into thinking there is a magic list of instructions and equipment for a perfect grow. There are no cheat sheets in gardening, just good old sweat and tears.

I learned my lesson with those plastic cups and seedlings earlier in this grow. They needed a lot more drainage holes and another 30-50% extra perlite next time. I knew there something wrong when I stopped seeing growth on top. Roots were dying down below from sitting in the over saturated soil.

Last time I went from peat pots directly to 3 gal plastic containers without any amendments just soil. That's not good either, learned that lesson as well. At least I'm learning and not embarrassed to say it, lol! Later!




Hey True, yeah five of the seeds are feminized. One is a bag seed thrown in there for grins and one is an auto. Really focused on the four females but the other two may or may not make it to harvest in this grow room depending on (male/female bag seed) and pulling the auto early.

I'm really concerned about getting six 5 gallon Geopots into that grow room, but I have them ready to go. I will know better about space once I move to the 3 gallon containers.
Good call man, like you said, no set in stone recipe even for two plants side by side.
What you mentioned about the Solo cups, I like to drill 3/16 holes about a finger width apart, in that ring at the very bottom of the side, that way they don't have the chance of holding any water underneath.:-P
 

prosperian

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Good call man, like you said, no set in stone recipe even for two plants side by side.
What you mentioned about the Solo cups, I like to drill 3/16 holes about a finger width apart, in that ring at the very bottom of the side, that way they don't have the chance of holding any water underneath.:-P
Thanks man, kick me if I don't do that next time, or at least post me, lol! I like your drain holes in the 5 gallon outdoor bucket that you are making. Getting water out is as important as getting water in. Your beasts are getting nice and big from your last pics, they look happy with all that sun.



...Otherwise I just have an oscilating fan going 24/7 like you. I find that that works out fine to keep all the girls happy as can be. I have a ton of oscilating fans I've picked up over the years and I found a great one at wal-mart for $23 and it can be wall mounted and everything and is pretty nice actually, has 3 speeds and is sturdy and I think it will last quite a long time.

Ordered a oscillating 8" fan today. It will be wall mounted or fabricated onto a adjustable shelf arm so I can easily move it up and down with the shelf. Right now I have the space on the plant shelf for a fan but as I move to three and five gallon containers space will run out. Had one of those 4" hydro store clip-ons but it burned out after one grow.
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