Is soil significantly slower than hydro?

curious2garden

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I'm not that much of a connoisseur when it comes to pot even after 50+ years of smoking everything from old mexican brick pot as a teen to some of the so-called primo organic stuff. The worst stuff I've smoked is street pot that tastes like bug spray and burns like a piece of old hemp rope but knocks you on your ass. Yuck! A buddy buys legal pot from the store in the city here in Alberta and it tastes crappier than the worst pot I've ever grown and I grew my first buds in 1978.

10 years ago I grew a couple clones from the same mom. One in some special organic soil I bought at the hydro store in Edmonton and one in a DWC ScroG. Dried and cured the same way I couldn't tell the difference nor could any of the dozen or so friends I asked to test it. I gave them an eighth each in two baggies just marked A & B and asked for feedback. Most claimed it was the same pot and I was just jerking them around. Only one or two actually picked the organic over the hydro. As many chose the hydro as the best so no significance there.

The only real difference of note was I got 8oz off the DWC and 2.5 oz off the organic one.

There are plenty of organic growers who can do a hell of a lot better than I can so more power to them but it sure ain't my thing.

If I didn't need pot for medicine I wouldn't bother growing at all. I'd find a buddy that likes growing good pot and just buy a 1/2 oz a month off him/her. Last March the wife was diagnosed with tumors on her liver that we still don't know for sure what they are but I'm making RSO for her the last 6 months and if she finally gets a proper diagnosis and it's bad news then we're gonna need lots more. She hasn't smoked pot or used it any other way for 15 years. Doesn't drink either but like me smokes way too much tobacco. I probably smoke less than a half gram/day doing single hits of sativa in my pipe for depression but eat a good heaping tsp of CBD cocobudder every evening for the arthritis. Seems to help with prostate issues too.

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So sorry to hear this about your wife. I hope her tumors are benign and thank god she has you.
Annie
 

OldMedUser

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Sorry to hear about your wife. I hope those tumors go away or turn out benign. I really do.
So sorry to hear this about your wife. I hope her tumors are benign and thank god she has you.
Annie
Thanx guys. Worst part is not knowing and she was diagnosed last March just two weeks after I got an MRI for prostrate issues and got a clean bill of health. Just benign prostrate enlargement common in us old farts and a toughened up bladder that doesn't stretch as good as it used too. Zinc, Saw Palmetto, CBD and Earthing have really helped with my issues but we don't know what her issues are yet.

She can't have an MRI because she has SS rods in her back from childhood scoliosis and they are pre 1978 or something when they switched to non-ferrous, (titanium?), rods that are OK for MRIs. Went for a biopsy last Sept. but they couldn't see well enough with ultrasound to get a sample as the largest tumour is right next to the big vein and if they hit it she could die in 2 minutes they said. They better get it done ASAP as it will soon be a year since this started. I don't know why they can't just cut off the affected lobe and be done with it or use laparoscopic surgery to get in and get a sample for biopsy.

She's been taking RSO for a while now but I want to get her dosages up and there are a couple of supplements I need to find to help it work better in the liver as it's a special case in regards to THC working in there. The supplements keep the liver enzymes busy so the THC doesn't get converted before it can affect the tumours. I have a link to the thread at 420mag but just switched window versions to 10 and it's on the Win7 drive so need to boot off that drive, start FireFox then export the bookmarks as an .html file so I can read it in win10. Same computer, different hard drive.

Might be easier to just go to 420 and search it out in Sweet Sue's links thread. Lots of good cancer and other pot research going on with her stuff.

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bulla

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I got just got back into dwc when doing it before it was faster for my veg but pretty even on flowering im just tired of the dirt all over and dust then every once in awhile I get those knats and that's just annoying
 

Dr. Who

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I grew hydro for years and switched to organic soil and never will go back. I don't notice much if any difference in time or yield and the quality is superior. The hardest part about switching is getting used to not constantly checking ph and ppm and water temperature and for slime and to make sure the pumps are all running and the air stones aren't clogged and on and on. Not to mention the endless additives and nutrient res changes and always new nutrient lines to try or better yielding methods with more cool stuff to buy. Now I mostly just water and train my plants so I feel like I'm actually doing something as a "gardener". It's so simple it's almost boring. Lol

Soil = less work, less stress
 

B.eazy

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I've been running hydro for awhile and the only reason I wanna switch is because my hydro buds don't have the same taste from when I used to run soil. It's been awhile tho and my hydro plants grow pretty quick. Trying not to set myself back another 2-3 weeks
Have you tried to wick?
 

ChrispyCritter

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You were just doing DWC all wrong is what it was. Some people are just better off finding what works for them and doing it that way. I find DWC easy as hell compared to playing in the dirt. Others find the opposite so we should all do what works best for them.

What's BEST is what works best for you and we could sure save a lot of bickering and BS if we all allowed each other to do their own thing without trying to convert each other like we're all a bunch of freakin' proselytizers screaming DO IT MY WAY OR YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!!!! LOL

Good luck and good growing!

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I wasn't doing it wrong. I did it about as right as dwc could be done. I didn't say anything about my yields or results I just said it was a lot of effort. There is no freaking way you get triple yields over soil unless my are completely helpless as a soil grower. Just say to each his or her own and leave it. You don't know anything about my growing other than what I've posted. Maybe you like dwc more but don't tell me it's easier. I grew high quality but the things I listed are things you have to do in dwc, minus the trying new ferts. I do none of those in soil.
 

OldMedUser

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I do not do well in dirt so you got me there.

Planting some fem autos outside in a few days and that'll be all organic so will see how that works out.

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conor c

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Flowering time is genetics vs conditions i dont think hydro is that much faster than soil maybe a few days but not much faster imo prefer soil personally tastes miles better in the finished smoke
 

OldMedUser

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Plants die much slower in soil
I don't make a habit of killing my plants. ;)

I have 20 that have been idling along in little 3" square nursery pots of ProMix with an occasional dose of MegaCrop and CalMag with RO water since last July. Almost a year now. Look like crap but will come around once repotted and I can take lots of cuttings. Mainly wanted to preserve the genetics until I got STS to make fem seeds with them as they are all from cuttings or fem seeds. Got the chem now so must get that project started.

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OldMedUser

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Flowering time is genetics vs conditions i dont think hydro is that much faster than soil maybe a few days but not much faster imo prefer soil personally tastes miles better in the finished smoke
Flowering time is the same either way but veg is way faster in hydro. I've grown the clones from the same mother in DWC and soil side-by-side and it's quite dramatic. Taste tested the pot from both with a few friends and they couldn't tell the difference. A slo-dry and long cure improves any pot over a quick hang dry. Nice brown buds instead of green.

Each to their own. I've tried all sorts of methods in the last 20 years. I eat more than I smoke anyway these last few years.

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Skewbong

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I like both, but I found dwc is way faster in veg. Some of us just grow in soil, as we have families and other jobs to attend to. So many times its your lifestyle that dictates what your medium is. Peace.
 

OldMedUser

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I just switched back to coco..too slow for me.
I only tried coco once and that stuff was a brick and I'm pretty sure should have been flushed well before planting but I didn't know at the time so things did not go well and I've never used it since. That was almost 20 years ago. I was using Sunshine Mix #4 wwith added perlite for the next 6 or 7 years then ProMix products like HP showed up and I've been using that since and quite happy with it. I've done around 50 Rubbermaid tubs worth of DWC since '01 too and it's way faster in veg than even the ProMix using the same AN nutes. You can't get any coco locally and shipping is outrageous to northern Alberta here. Next time I go to the city I might pick up some bagged coco and see how it goes. Cost a lot more than ProMix tho.

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