is this a hermi? should i harvest?

Ive always read, and also been told, sometimes late in flower a bud will hermi as a last ditch effort to keep its cycle going. im told its also a sign of ripeness that i shold not freak out as there is no time for it to fuck me. should i wait a few days, or chop? its in mid frame, and in one im pointing with a chopstick.

everything i post is makebelieve and pretend happy time

well you may end up with a few seeds, but ive finished a plant with nanners ...with only a few small undeveloped seeds coming from it, wasn't like a full blown hermie with pollen sacks. but just be prepared to see at least a few seeds. still smoke-able

is that the only plant?

here is a pic right before chop

Those are "naners" which are common during late flowering. Not ideal but not the end of the world. If you end up with seeds, save them. They will be feminized and grow just fine.

I would harvest soon. I dont think shes going to do much more.

Also, not a hermaphrodite.

abrooks2152 said:

Ive always read, and also been told, sometimes late in flower a bud will hermi as a last ditch effort to keep its cycle going. im told its also a sign of ripeness that i shold not freak out as there is no time for it to fuck me. should i wait a few days, or chop? its in mid frame, and in one im pointing with a chopstick.

everything i post is makebelieve and pretend happy time

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I would like some clarification on that...

So in the OP's case, did his seeds have hermie traits from to begin with? Or on the other hand, was it a last ditch effort and all female cannabis
plants will eventually seed themselves after so long?

Will all female cannabis try and make seeds when it senses the end of the flower cycle is near?

Is hermie a result from a underlying genetic condition , or is a survival skill will show itself near the end of its life?

banks dank said:

I would like some clarification on that...

So in the OP's case, did his seeds have hermie traits from to begin with? Or on the other hand, was it a last ditch effort and all female cannabis
plants will eventually seed themselves after so long?

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It could be many things. It may have been stress from over feeding.

banks dank said:

Will all female cannabis try and make seeds when it senses the end of the flower cycle is near?

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Good question, I do not know.
It usually happens well after you would want to pick.

banks dank said:

Is hermie a result from a underlying genetic condition , or is a survival skill will show itself near the end of its life?

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<cracks knuckles>
Real dioecious hermaphrodites (a plant having an X and a Y chromosome and producing both male and female flowers together) are pretty rare in stable genetics. They are more common in sativas.

All female cannabis plants have the ability to produce male flowers. It usually happens as a result of stress. It is a normal and natural survival mechanism. Some genetics are prone to producing male flowers under certain conditions.

If a female plant produces male flowers, it is not a real hermaphrodite. As it only has X chromosomes the resulting seeds will be feminized and as likely to "hermie" as the parent(s).

lime73 said:

here is a pic right before chop
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Thats just simply beautiful. Did you ever figure out what it was(strain)?

Trousers said:

It could be many things. It may have been stress from over feeding.



Good question, I do not know.
It usually happens well after you would want to pick.





<cracks knuckles>
Real dioecious hermaphrodites (a plant having an X and a Y chromosome and producing both male and female flowers together) are pretty rare in stable genetics. They are more common in sativas.

All female cannabis plants have the ability to produce male flowers. It usually happens as a result of stress. It is a normal and natural survival mechanism. Some genetics are prone to producing male flowers under certain conditions.

If a female plant produces male flowers, it is not a real hermaphrodite. As it only has X chromosomes the resulting seeds will be feminized and as likely to "hermie" as the parent(s).

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This hermie talk has confused me for awhile thanks for the help...

How could someone distinguish a "Real" hermie from a "not real" hermie? By real i mean true X and Y genes and by not real i mean stress induced...

For instance i hear that bagseed is hermie prone but this shouldnt be the case as real hermies
(x y) are pretty rare right?

ok so it was not a "true" hermi as far as i can figure. the nanners just showed up literally in a few hours. ima har est today anyway. she had 3sisters all of wich turned out fine. so im assuming it was not a true hermi but just a nanner as a last shot at regenerating. thanks all.

everything i post is makebelieve and pretend happy time

A hermaphrodite will show full male flowers separately from female flowers. "Naners" are not full male flowers and they grow from within female flower clusters. Hermaphrodites will show early whereas "naners" usually show up late in flowering.

Most people dont let their plants go long enough to see any attempt at self pollination. Some may do it earlier than others in response to changes in photoperiod, temperature extremes, nutrient issues or other stresses.

Seeds found in a bag of higher grade mj are most likely a result of self pollination in flowering & not hermaphroditism. Most growers can easily spot a true herm early and remove it. The naners can hide within lower buds and not be spotted as easily. They also generally tend to only pollinate a few calyxes within the cluster from which they emerged.

The resulting seeds will be feminized and will grow normally.

banks dank said:

This hermie talk has confused me for awhile thanks for the help...

How could someone distinguish a "Real" hermie from a "not real" hermie? By real i mean true X and Y genes and by not real i mean stress induced...

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A real hermaphrodite will show both flowers, male and female together, from the start.

Of course, if you stress a plant from the get go, it will show both flowers together.

banks dank said:

For instance i hear that bagseed is hermie prone but this shouldnt be the case as real hermies
(x y) are pretty rare right?

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Yes.

I personally believe that most bagseed is the result of a female getting stressed, producing male flowers and pollinating other plants. Of course some growers let males go too long or do it on purpose, but I beleive most bagseed is from stressed plants and will be fem seeds.

From my experience, every one of the bagseeds I have popped, excluding brick weed, has turned out female.
That and reading here is the basis of my opinion.

Feed properly, do not flush and keep learning. (fem seeds are worth every penny. I have a plant I suspect is male. I have been caring for it and feeding it for over 5 weeks.)


Just killed this healthy boy:

Popcorn900 said:

Thats just simply beautiful. Did you ever figure out what it was(strain)?

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Thank you!
all my plants were bag-seed from my personal smoke i collected, the one i posted here did have a few nanners due to stress...but i still finished her
its was excellent quality smoke, but no i didn't know what strain it was and it's still is a mystery.

I was able to narrow down a few of my other plants, one was an indica/kush...and my "topped seedling" (long story/have a thread on her) turned out to be a indica/purple kush major color change and she even smelled like berries

Trousers said:

A real hermaphrodite will show both flowers, male and female together, from the start.

Of course, if you stress a plant from the get go, it will show both flowers together.



Yes.

I personally believe that most bagseed is the result of a female getting stressed, producing male flowers and pollinating other plants. Of course some growers let males go too long or do it on purpose, but I beleive most bagseed is from stressed plants and will be fem seeds.

From my experience, every one of the bagseeds I have popped, excluding brick weed, has turned out female.
That and reading here is the basis of my opinion.

Feed properly, do not flush and keep learning. (fem seeds are worth every penny. I have a plant I suspect is male. I have been caring for it and feeding it for over 5 weeks.)


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Sorry to hear about your male...sad sad day...

Very informative post thanks for the input...

You guys apparently know your shit (pun intended)!

I'm a newb, so could you please give me examples of what indicates the sex of a plant?

Sleepybud said:

You guys apparently know your shit (pun intended)!

I'm a newb, so could you please give me examples of what indicates the sex of a plant?

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females have v shaped hairs, males dont they have balls lol

Thank you very much. That looks quite obvious. When does this occur(how early)?

usually 4-6 weeks in veg, it varies by pheno and variety

Thank you also.

Trousers said:

All female cannabis plants have the ability to produce male flowers. It usually happens as a result of stress. It is a normal and natural survival mechanism. Some genetics are prone to producing male flowers under certain conditions.

If a female plant produces male flowers, it is not a real hermaphrodite. As it only has X chromosomes the resulting seeds will be feminized and as likely to "hermie" as the parent(s).

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It would be nice to know if female during the end of the life cycle will produce seeds...If this is usually true
like you said then wouldnt it be beneficial to harvest almost the entire plant when time comes, but save some
areas they will produce feminized seeds??

People would prolly argue that its pointless when you could have clones but you can store seeds for along
time...I see some potential here...