zeddd
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Zeddd, pleased to meet you
January 6th, 2021
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DIY-HP-LED
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Get in line, it's a long one...
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Trump aides 'considering legal action' to force him to help pay their January 6-related legal bills: report
On Thursday, Maggie Haberman of The New York Times reported that associates of former President Donald Trump are considering "legal action" to force the former president to cover legal expenses related to the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, as he has indicated he is unwilling to do so...
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CatHedral
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Very no. That man exposed the machinery by which we would become a fascist nation. A fascist United States would be very bad for the rest of the first world. We were lucky he turned out so bad at it, like every single one of his other enterprises.
Make no mistake: our right wing is insurrectionist. You will only find that challenged in the complicit press.
CatHedral
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I also enjoy his content. I pushed back on some of his ideas until the preponderance of evidence convinced me. I believe you are isolating yourself, not him, with your displays of irritation.
subwax
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I am lucky, I guess, in that I don't need any Internet friends. I have enough good mates. I am most definitely not hear to make friends - the solid information of weed over years is why I am here, really.
A fault, perhaps, but I simply cannot tolerate idiots. I completely understand and accept that others think of me as an idiot - I am cool with that. I don't bear grudges or dislike people - if others do, I see it as their problem. Nobody is forced to read to my posts, or indeed to respond to them.
I should perhaps butt out of American politics - its a den on inequity, as far as I can see, full of hate and racism. No balance - its very binary - you either like one party of the other. To not like either is a concept my American and Canadian chums seem to completely struggle with.
A fault, perhaps, but I simply cannot tolerate idiots. I completely understand and accept that others think of me as an idiot - I am cool with that. I don't bear grudges or dislike people - if others do, I see it as their problem. Nobody is forced to read to my posts, or indeed to respond to them.
I should perhaps butt out of American politics - its a den on inequity, as far as I can see, full of hate and racism. No balance - its very binary - you either like one party of the other. To not like either is a concept my American and Canadian chums seem to completely struggle with.
DIY-HP-LED
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DIY-HP-LED
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zeddd
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That’s surprising because you sound like a big fucking idiot yourself. Who criticises someone’s Inglish then makes primary school errors themselves. Idiots do
CunningCanuk
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We noticed.
That’s not true in my case. I like some Republicans. I like the ones that stand up to fascists.
DIY-HP-LED
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I don't think you're a Russian, but I do believe you are naïve about American politics and culture. Let's just say you're a liberal who believes in democratic rule. About 30% of every country are arseholes, America has historical baggage and constitutional issues that add to the burden. It is not a true liberal democracy, the house is gerrymandered, the senate represents geography and has minority control with the filibuster and the presidency is not democratically elected, but uses an electoral college and the president can have a big minority of the votes and still win. Add to that large portions of the population were effectively disenfranchised and those efforts continue. More democracy would solve most of these issues by establishing true majority rule.
Herb & Suds
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I think there are still a few members here you haven’t said this too yet
Step up your meth intake and get er done
subwax
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No - its just you, really. Others are nice and friendly.
Quite happy for you to think I take meth - has no impact on my life, but I sure hope it improves yours.
Herb & Suds
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Moreover pity
subwax
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Is that your name at the weekends?
printer
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Alan Dershowitz to Newsmax: Jan. 6 'Stress Test for Democracy'; 'We Passed'
Throwing around the term "insurrection" to describe the events of Jan. 6, 2021, is not just overblown, but dangerous and might ultimately boomerang back on Democrats, according to legal expert Alan Dershowitz on Newsmax.
"We've watered down real insurrections, which we obviously have to prevent, and second we allow the weaponization for one party," Dershowitz told Thursday's "Spicer & Co."
"You can't throw those words around — 'insurrection' — because they'll be thrown back at you. Next time there's a protest by the Democrats, the Republicans will take out this statement and say, 'ah-ha!'"
Dershowitz warned Republicans are already talking about retribution against President Joe Biden after former President Donald Trump was impeached twice by the Democrat-led House only to be acquitted in the Senate, including one trial that included the testimony of Dershowitz himself on behalf of Trump, a president he had not voted for.
"There's a movement to impeach President Biden, and Republicans are saying, 'We don't think he really committed impeachable conduct, but because the Democrats impeached Trump, we're gonna impeach Biden,'" Dershowitz said.
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and other Republicans have talked about impeaching Biden for "dereliction of duty" surrounding the deadly U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, but Dershowitz told co-hosts Sean Spicer and Lyndsay Keith that Republicans are suggesting "two wrongs make a right."
"No, no, two constitutional wrongs are worse than one constitutional wrong, and they certainly don't make a right," Dershowitz said.
The storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was a "stress test for democracy," according to Dershowitz.
"It's not an insurrection," he continued. "This is a protest that became violent, a stress test of democracy, and we passed the test. The American public overwhelmingly rejected the use of violence."
Seeking to weaponize Jan. 6 to keep Trump from running for president in 2024 is an unconstitutional abuse of the 14th Amendment, which codifies equal protection under the law and delves into "insurrection" under Section 3.
"There are people who should know better," Dershowitz said. "Professor Laurence Tribe and others are partisan zealots, not constitutional scholars, weaponizing the Constitution for one party rather than the other.
"No, this was not the kind of insurrection that the 14th Amendment had in mind. This is much closer to what [former President Abraham] Lincoln said [in his second] inaugural address: 'With malice to none and charity for all, let's get back to doing business.'"
Dershowitz called for America to "calibrate" the events of Jan. 6 as a protest that turned violent, like many in American history before from both parties.
"If you had people who got up and said, 'Look, we know — we know — that Biden won the election fair and square but nonetheless we're going to overthrow Biden,' that would be one thing," Dershowitz said of the Jan. 6 rioters. "These are people who wrongheadedly believed, some of them at least, that the election was unfair. That's not an insurrection."
Dershowitz hearkened back to the 2000 election between then-Vice President Al Gore and ultimately elected President George W. Bush and his book, "Supreme Injustice: How the High Court Hijacked Election 2000," saying Gore won that election.
"I attacked the Supreme Court for giving the election over to the Republicans," Dershowitz said. "That was my constitutional right. And so we have to understand the difference between protests, even protests that turned violent, and insurrections.
"The First Amendment, the right to assemble peaceably and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, is critically important. And to start calling that an insurrection is to violate both intent of the framers and the words of the First Amendment."
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Sadly overlooking the purpose of the events of the day. To stop the peaceful transfer of power. In doing so the Republicans wanted the slate of electors thrown out and the House pick the winner, with the Republicans the majority for only a few more days.
Throwing around the term "insurrection" to describe the events of Jan. 6, 2021, is not just overblown, but dangerous and might ultimately boomerang back on Democrats, according to legal expert Alan Dershowitz on Newsmax.
"We've watered down real insurrections, which we obviously have to prevent, and second we allow the weaponization for one party," Dershowitz told Thursday's "Spicer & Co."
"You can't throw those words around — 'insurrection' — because they'll be thrown back at you. Next time there's a protest by the Democrats, the Republicans will take out this statement and say, 'ah-ha!'"
Dershowitz warned Republicans are already talking about retribution against President Joe Biden after former President Donald Trump was impeached twice by the Democrat-led House only to be acquitted in the Senate, including one trial that included the testimony of Dershowitz himself on behalf of Trump, a president he had not voted for.
"There's a movement to impeach President Biden, and Republicans are saying, 'We don't think he really committed impeachable conduct, but because the Democrats impeached Trump, we're gonna impeach Biden,'" Dershowitz said.
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and other Republicans have talked about impeaching Biden for "dereliction of duty" surrounding the deadly U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, but Dershowitz told co-hosts Sean Spicer and Lyndsay Keith that Republicans are suggesting "two wrongs make a right."
"No, no, two constitutional wrongs are worse than one constitutional wrong, and they certainly don't make a right," Dershowitz said.
The storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was a "stress test for democracy," according to Dershowitz.
"It's not an insurrection," he continued. "This is a protest that became violent, a stress test of democracy, and we passed the test. The American public overwhelmingly rejected the use of violence."
Seeking to weaponize Jan. 6 to keep Trump from running for president in 2024 is an unconstitutional abuse of the 14th Amendment, which codifies equal protection under the law and delves into "insurrection" under Section 3.
"There are people who should know better," Dershowitz said. "Professor Laurence Tribe and others are partisan zealots, not constitutional scholars, weaponizing the Constitution for one party rather than the other.
"No, this was not the kind of insurrection that the 14th Amendment had in mind. This is much closer to what [former President Abraham] Lincoln said [in his second] inaugural address: 'With malice to none and charity for all, let's get back to doing business.'"
Dershowitz called for America to "calibrate" the events of Jan. 6 as a protest that turned violent, like many in American history before from both parties.
"If you had people who got up and said, 'Look, we know — we know — that Biden won the election fair and square but nonetheless we're going to overthrow Biden,' that would be one thing," Dershowitz said of the Jan. 6 rioters. "These are people who wrongheadedly believed, some of them at least, that the election was unfair. That's not an insurrection."
Dershowitz hearkened back to the 2000 election between then-Vice President Al Gore and ultimately elected President George W. Bush and his book, "Supreme Injustice: How the High Court Hijacked Election 2000," saying Gore won that election.
"I attacked the Supreme Court for giving the election over to the Republicans," Dershowitz said. "That was my constitutional right. And so we have to understand the difference between protests, even protests that turned violent, and insurrections.
"The First Amendment, the right to assemble peaceably and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, is critically important. And to start calling that an insurrection is to violate both intent of the framers and the words of the First Amendment."
Alan Dershowitz to Newsmax: Jan. 6 'Stress Test for Democracy'; 'We Passed'
Throwing around the term "insurrection" to describe the events of Jan. 6, 2021 is not just overblown, but dangerous and might ultimately boomerang back on Democrats, according to legal expert Alan Dershowitz on Newsmax.
Sadly overlooking the purpose of the events of the day. To stop the peaceful transfer of power. In doing so the Republicans wanted the slate of electors thrown out and the House pick the winner, with the Republicans the majority for only a few more days.
zeddd
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I’m guessing he’s from England
zeddd
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Did he write that aboard the Lolita express when he travelled on it several times?Alan Dershowitz to Newsmax: Jan. 6 'Stress Test for Democracy'; 'We Passed'
Throwing around the term "insurrection" to describe the events of Jan. 6, 2021, is not just overblown, but dangerous and might ultimately boomerang back on Democrats, according to legal expert Alan Dershowitz on Newsmax.
"We've watered down real insurrections, which we obviously have to prevent, and second we allow the weaponization for one party," Dershowitz told Thursday's "Spicer & Co."
"You can't throw those words around — 'insurrection' — because they'll be thrown back at you. Next time there's a protest by the Democrats, the Republicans will take out this statement and say, 'ah-ha!'"
Dershowitz warned Republicans are already talking about retribution against President Joe Biden after former President Donald Trump was impeached twice by the Democrat-led House only to be acquitted in the Senate, including one trial that included the testimony of Dershowitz himself on behalf of Trump, a president he had not voted for.
"There's a movement to impeach President Biden, and Republicans are saying, 'We don't think he really committed impeachable conduct, but because the Democrats impeached Trump, we're gonna impeach Biden,'" Dershowitz said.
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and other Republicans have talked about impeaching Biden for "dereliction of duty" surrounding the deadly U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, but Dershowitz told co-hosts Sean Spicer and Lyndsay Keith that Republicans are suggesting "two wrongs make a right."
"No, no, two constitutional wrongs are worse than one constitutional wrong, and they certainly don't make a right," Dershowitz said.
The storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was a "stress test for democracy," according to Dershowitz.
"It's not an insurrection," he continued. "This is a protest that became violent, a stress test of democracy, and we passed the test. The American public overwhelmingly rejected the use of violence."
Seeking to weaponize Jan. 6 to keep Trump from running for president in 2024 is an unconstitutional abuse of the 14th Amendment, which codifies equal protection under the law and delves into "insurrection" under Section 3.
"There are people who should know better," Dershowitz said. "Professor Laurence Tribe and others are partisan zealots, not constitutional scholars, weaponizing the Constitution for one party rather than the other.
"No, this was not the kind of insurrection that the 14th Amendment had in mind. This is much closer to what [former President Abraham] Lincoln said [in his second] inaugural address: 'With malice to none and charity for all, let's get back to doing business.'"
Dershowitz called for America to "calibrate" the events of Jan. 6 as a protest that turned violent, like many in American history before from both parties.
"If you had people who got up and said, 'Look, we know — we know — that Biden won the election fair and square but nonetheless we're going to overthrow Biden,' that would be one thing," Dershowitz said of the Jan. 6 rioters. "These are people who wrongheadedly believed, some of them at least, that the election was unfair. That's not an insurrection."
Dershowitz hearkened back to the 2000 election between then-Vice President Al Gore and ultimately elected President George W. Bush and his book, "Supreme Injustice: How the High Court Hijacked Election 2000," saying Gore won that election.
"I attacked the Supreme Court for giving the election over to the Republicans," Dershowitz said. "That was my constitutional right. And so we have to understand the difference between protests, even protests that turned violent, and insurrections.
"The First Amendment, the right to assemble peaceably and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, is critically important. And to start calling that an insurrection is to violate both intent of the framers and the words of the First Amendment."
Alan Dershowitz to Newsmax: Jan. 6 'Stress Test for Democracy'; 'We Passed'
Throwing around the term "insurrection" to describe the events of Jan. 6, 2021 is not just overblown, but dangerous and might ultimately boomerang back on Democrats, according to legal expert Alan Dershowitz on Newsmax.
Sadly overlooking the purpose of the events of the day. To stop the peaceful transfer of power. In doing so the Republicans wanted the slate of electors thrown out and the House pick the winner, with the Republicans the majority for only a few more days.