Luger187
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i looked this up to get the exact words for it so i could post it somewhere else, and i found this.
http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/government-big-enough-to-give-you-everything-you-wantquotation
Just a thought
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ThatGuy113
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This is all semantics, now what is being truly gained by going back and forth on obviously a divide in ideology and not a divide in facts? The beautiful thing about the internet is everyone gets a voice so you can find anything to say whatever you need and it keeps going on and on. I said you agreed with the first post I did not say you disagreed about the whole thing, read before you type. I mean since you blow off everything as another "LIBERAL"talking point. Alright Rush " The Democrats are at it again" 
First of all here's a starter list of things that didnt work out so well for Thomas 1. Articles of confederation.... nope 2. Opposing the development of the National Bank.... 3. Rejecting the federal absorption of state debt from the war 4. Wanted to align foreign and trade policies with France instead of Britain... that also was declined So applying his policies today is just a game of what if ? and nothing more.
So hmmmm that's great we have a list of nopes. He must of had a ton of influence to get all that done... oh wait. I guess him compromising on that whole Louisiana Purchase shows a bit of leeway in his theology too (Compromise being the key word). So its really Alexander Hamilton's vision of the world we live in... I'd rather go with his intent over Jefferson's. If his ideas were not good enough for government back then I bet there not so good for government today.
Oh and nice one on the quote so much for having all your homework done..
Conversation over because we are down to arguing theology and that's just like religion no one wins because everything is objective.
First of all here's a starter list of things that didnt work out so well for Thomas 1. Articles of confederation.... nope 2. Opposing the development of the National Bank.... 3. Rejecting the federal absorption of state debt from the war 4. Wanted to align foreign and trade policies with France instead of Britain... that also was declined So applying his policies today is just a game of what if ? and nothing more.
So hmmmm that's great we have a list of nopes. He must of had a ton of influence to get all that done... oh wait. I guess him compromising on that whole Louisiana Purchase shows a bit of leeway in his theology too (Compromise being the key word). So its really Alexander Hamilton's vision of the world we live in... I'd rather go with his intent over Jefferson's. If his ideas were not good enough for government back then I bet there not so good for government today.
Oh and nice one on the quote so much for having all your homework done..
Conversation over because we are down to arguing theology and that's just like religion no one wins because everything is objective.
sync0s
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This is all semantics, now what is being truly gained by going back and forth on obviously a divide in ideology and not a divide in facts? The beautiful thing about the internet is everyone gets a voice so you can find anything to say whatever you need and it keeps going on and on. I said you agreed with the first post I did not say you disagreed about the whole thing, read before you type. I mean since you blow off everything as another "LIBERAL"talking point. Alright Rush " The Democrats are at it again"
I dismiss talking points because they don't provide anything to a competent debate. You can simply throw the word Reagonomics into a sentence that illustrates an elaborate metaphor all you want, but it doesn't make it something to be intelligently discussed.
About your remark to facts: the only information you would prefer to regard as facts is ones that would support your ideology. I'd be more than willing for you to provide some facts for me and I would gladly consider them, but apparently your not for doing that.
All of those 'failures' are shared by James Madison. So what your telling me is you would rather live in a world without the constitution because the man who wrote the damn thing also joined Jefferson in going against Hamilton.
My eyes have been opened to a misquote (You see, here I am demonstrating the willingness to concede when facts are presented proving me wrong). That being said, at there very least I know what the word "theology" means, how about you?