Jimi O'Connor
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All in? Can you be more specific
"Just add water soil" problem
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Hollatchaboy
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Dry amendment, ewc, compost, bokashi, red wigglers, mulch, all kinds of stuff for organic.
PadawanWarrior
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That looks like a chemical fertilizer.
BudmanTX
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they make an organic fert out on the market, it's similiar to what i use, either mix it in the soil first, or you can use it as a topper
DrDukePHD
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I concur, do not add full strength liquid fish fert. I ran into problems. Always use half of what they suggest. It effects PH.
PadawanWarrior
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How much did you use? Must've been a shitload. It doesn't really have anything crazy in it. These are the ingredients.
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
| Glomus aggregatum | 6.4 CFU/g |
|---|---|
| Glomus mosseae | 6.4 CFU/g |
| Glomus intraradices | 6.4 CFU/g |
| Glomus etunicatum | 6.4 CFU/g |
| Bacillus subtilis | 100,000,000 CFU/g |
| Bacillus megaterium | 100,000,000 CFU/g |
| Kelp (derived from Ascophyllum nodosum) | 12% |
| Molasses (microbe food) | 6% |
| Humic Acid (derivied from Leonardite) | 5% |
Treesomewanted77
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Yeah they must have used a ton or had something else out of whack because I’ve been using it for 2 years without a single issue so I doubt it was the recharge. Not that it couldn’t have been but I think maybe something else was off or they may have gotten a bad batch of recharge but that would be the first time I’ve heard of anyone having issues with it.
Billy the Mountain
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HydoDan
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Don't fill them right away, let them go a couple days..
waterproof808
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I bet the bottom watering pot is one of the main issues.
Jimi O'Connor
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So i added the recommended amount of gaia green all purpose 4-4-4/ power bloom 2-8-4. I top dressed the plants and it was Thursday, so i hit the plants with recharge also when i waterd after the gaia green amendments. The plants are still lime green, i really hope this problem is fixed soon it hasn't done anything so far
Hydro Hippie
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Growing 100% organic makes things a little more difficult. Being that all the nutrients are front loaded for a just add water grow, it's difficult to direct the nutrient needs of the plant mid grow.
Over the years I have achieved best results using both living soil and salt fertilizers together. To be sucmix my living soil but at a much lower rate than most directions out there.
Through out the grow I supplement the soil biology with the Jacks's line of fertilizers at a rate of 50 - 75% of the manufacturers suggested use rate. I also brew and feed compost tea weekly. This hybrid method has allowed get higher yields then I could using either salts or organic fertilizers exclusively.
As others have mentioned, get rid of wick watering method. Then water to a good runoff using pH neutral with no nutrients in it. Collect the runoff as see what the pH is. I suspect you may have a pH problem.
Judging by the red stems and general appearance, there may be some magnesium deficiency. The simple fix is Magnesium Sulfate (epsom salt) I'm sure there are organic options out there.
Over the years I have achieved best results using both living soil and salt fertilizers together. To be sucmix my living soil but at a much lower rate than most directions out there.
Through out the grow I supplement the soil biology with the Jacks's line of fertilizers at a rate of 50 - 75% of the manufacturers suggested use rate. I also brew and feed compost tea weekly. This hybrid method has allowed get higher yields then I could using either salts or organic fertilizers exclusively.
As others have mentioned, get rid of wick watering method. Then water to a good runoff using pH neutral with no nutrients in it. Collect the runoff as see what the pH is. I suspect you may have a pH problem.
Judging by the red stems and general appearance, there may be some magnesium deficiency. The simple fix is Magnesium Sulfate (epsom salt) I'm sure there are organic options out there.
Jimi O'Connor
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Epsom salts?
Hollatchaboy
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Epsom salts = MgSO4 or magnesium sulfate. A good water soluble, plant available micro nutrient.
PadawanWarrior
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Are you saying you added it yesterday and it looks the same today?
PadawanWarrior
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If they need Mg.
speedwell68
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I grow in a store bought organic soil mix, it is called Westland New Horizon. It will feed the plants for about 6 weeks. So I water with a solution of Epsom Salts and Calcium Chloride, every other watering. Then at about week 4 I start with a Liquid Seaweed tomato food called Tomorite, at half strength. taking it up to full strength over a couple of weeks. Once I am feeding at full strength I cut out the Epsom Salt and give Calcium Chloride every other feed, the Tomato feed has plenty of Mg and S in it, so the Epsom Salt would just be a waste. Then I feed to the end.
Simple, super cheap and works really well. It isn't totally organic, but is a realistic and reasonably environmentally friendly approach.
Hollatchaboy
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Correct. If they need it.