just say the police come over....

if the police came over for whatever reason, what would you say you use your HPS lamp and bio nutes for?

this scenario being one where you're in between grows and have just the grow gear knocking about. what would you say you have it for?

Growing veggies... duh

what type of veggies?

easy. tomatoes. if they inquire more just rant and rave about how amazing they are hydroponiclly. but most importantly stop worrying about it. u need to be confidient that uve done everything u can to conceal it the best u can. dont tell anybody and if the cops do end up finding out ur fucked anyways so big whoop. dont worry, (smoke weed and...) be happy.

if dey do ask you remember you dont have to answer thnx to our forefathers :] 4th amendment

Don't talk to the police,it's none of their fucking bizz.

"i plead the.....4th?!"

thwack said:

"i plead the.....4th?!"

Click to expand...

Now they have probable cause.. Better to say you grow cronic tomatoes.. lol

under the impression that it was the "fifth amendment".

Wow, lying to the cops should be ingrained in everyones damn DNA. What reason would they have to be in your home? does it have to do with weed? if not then they have no PC if they just see plant nutrients. You could grow orchids also or tomatoes. Just simpy say you are exercising your right to remain silent and do not consent to any searches. go to the NORML website for specific things to say or think about.

if it's a possibility that the cops are going to "come over", I wouldn't even try to grow indoors.

Don't let them jackbooted sumbitches in your house for any reason.

In fact, don't talk to police at all, ever.

Even if you are as clean as Snow White, never consent.

Be polite and comply with their lawful requests, but do not answer any questions. Coppers are schooled in the art of intimidation from day one at the Academy. Know your rights and never put yourself in a position where a copper could legally gather evidence against you.

Came back to this thread just to apologize for my ignorance of the meaning of the "4th" amendment.

Happy tokin'!

I'm in the UK, and well i live in a flat and have a grow setup on the go, and if the police ever came over..... i don't think i could hide everything i use to grow, just thought i should be ready for it.... if it ever did happen, i will order a pack of tomato seeds and keep them with my grow gear lol..

i wouldn't worry about the 600 watt hps and the 400 hps officer, i grow the finest tomatos the world has ever seen, i'm very picky when it comes to my tomatoes officer have a good dig i'm sure you will find some seeds.....

all this being said with me living in a student flat, pictures of cannabis on the walls, and myself looking like a typical stoner...

but i like it.... if it ever did happen at least i have a reason whyu i have the stuff and should not have it taken by the cunts, maybe not a good idea to grow again in the flat after it happens if it ever does but yeah.... at least i have an exit stratergy now

• First Amendment – Establishment Clause, Free Exercise Clause; freedom of speech, of the press, Freedom of Religion, and of assembly; right to petition,

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

• Second Amendment – Militia (United States), Sovereign state, Right to keep and bear arms.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. [5][6]

• Third Amendment – Protection from quartering of troops.

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

• Fourth Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

• Fifth Amendment – due process, double jeopardy, self-incrimination, eminent domain.

No person shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

• Sixth Amendment – Trial by jury and rights of the accused; Confrontation Clause, speedy trial, public trial, right to counsel

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.

• Seventh Amendment – Civil trial by jury.

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

• Eighth Amendment – Prohibition of excessive bail and cruel and unusual punishment.

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

• Ninth Amendment – Protection of rights not specifically enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

• Tenth Amendment – Powers of States and people.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Who cares, its not illegal to have equipment and if the cops might stop by then dont grow.

lol paranoid

true that.

also cops are allowed to lie and encouraged to in questioning/interrogation. so if they can lie, so can we.

Johnnyorganic said:

Don't let them jackbooted sumbitches in your house for any reason.

In fact, don't talk to police at all, ever.

Even if you are as clean as Snow White, never consent.

Be polite and comply with their lawful requests, but do not answer any questions. Coppers are schooled in the art of intimidation from day one at the Academy. Know your rights and never put yourself in a position where a copper could legally gather evidence against you.

Click to expand...

Many law enforcement officers will admit that refusing to consent to a search, even if you have nothing to hide, thows up a huge red flag and they will do anything they can at that point to manipulate their way in and try 10X harder to find something to bust you for. I would say if you are hiding something in your house, say no and get clean asap. Otherwise it may be a bad idea. Almost 100% of ppl that refuse consent in a vehicle are hiding something.