SnidleyBluntash
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Salvia is good.
K2 / Spice / Kratom / Salvia ( why ? )
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Dreaming1
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Disclosure of experiences is important for harm reduction. A signpost to the youth. Not that they or any of us could listen. But just like jerry sorta said "the verdict is in on these substances...the bodies (minds) are back there and all you have to do is look." Some things are bad for people trying to be healthy happy humans. Other things help people be shiny happy people laughing. Just have to observe the use/abuse factors.
Thundercat
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FIrst let me point out for the OP and anyone else unaware, that the drugs in the title are not even remotely the same, and elicit very different effects.
I didn't start smoking weed until I was 19, I ate my first mushrooms when I was 20, ate my first acid when I was 22or23, salvia some where around 25 Those are pretty much the only drugs I've done.
I've done some 40x saliva about 3 times. Wierd and disassociative is the best way I can describe those experiences. They were all different, none were "scary", but none were pleasant in any way either. I don't recommend salvia.
I've eaten shrooms countless times at this point in my life. I've grown them on and off since 2007 at different points. I even documented one of those grows and several of my subsequent trips in my grow journal. I've had trips on 6-7 dried grams a few times, its very intense. I usually enjoy about 3 grams if I wanna trip, and love just eating a gram and having a nice evening sometimes. Mushrooms will connect you with your inner self, they open up the communication between your conscious and subconscious. Mycelium is one of the oldest organisms in the world, and I've very much come to believe that it uses the mushroom fruits it produces to share knowledge with us. Knowledge about ourselves, and the world around us. I love mushrooms, but also learned early to respect their power. Mushrooms have always been lots of fun, but on heavier doses I definitely tend to get more quiet and introspective. I strongly recommend mushrooms to anyone that is open to adventure and doesn't have any major mental health issues.
I've also eaten a bunch of acid at this point. There were a few summers back around 2014-15-16 especially where I went through a couple hundred doses between me and my wife(mostly me lol). Acid has always been a blast for me. One hit isn't usually as much as you think it will be, and when people only ever try one hit they usually seem very underwhelmed. I've given doses to friends a bunch of times, and started them with one so they didn't get overwhelmed. Usually they say something like "really that's what acid is like, that's not that big a deal". But once you start eating a few more hits things start getting much more intense. Rainbow light trails, and every surface seemingly moving around wiggling and waving. Fractals at higher doses, and defintiely patterns forming and changing constantly kind of overlayed on the natural surroundings of where you are. I've watched faces form in tree branches, I've watched flowers bloom in the fall that only had leaves and stalks in reality. Colors change and become more intense, and sex is fucking awesome
. I strongly recommend acid to people that like fun, adventure, and a great 12 hours of partying.
The last thing I'm gonna share is what I consider to be the keys to having fun and successful trips that allow personal growth and entertainment.
MINDSET
SETTING
INTENTION
Try to go into any psychedelic experience with a positive mindset. Don't try tripping when you are totally stressed out, or emotionally dealing with things that could effect your experience.
Have a comfortable setting, try to be prepared for your "TRIP". Try to be in a place that is safe and comfortable, especially on higher doses I tend to just stay home. On lower doses it can be fun to trip at festivals or concerts. You just have to learn what is the right amount for the experience you intend to have.
I have certain ways I like to dress while tripping to help not get clamy, sweaty or even to cold. I"ve found that personal temperature control helps greatly with having an enjoyable experience. I like to have a few usually healthy snacks, some fruit is usually extra delicious. I also like to plan a variety of entertainment options so that whatever mood I'm in I've got it covered before hand and don't have to figure it out while tripping. So I'll have some art stuff, some movies, maybe some sort of moving lights to watch and listen to music. You get the idea.
Intention is also important. If you want to work on personal growth, then going into the experience with a goal and a specific thing to work on in mind will help guide you. If you are just trying to have fun, then preparing a head and going into the experience with the INTENTION of having a really fun time will help make that happen!!
I didn't start smoking weed until I was 19, I ate my first mushrooms when I was 20, ate my first acid when I was 22or23, salvia some where around 25 Those are pretty much the only drugs I've done.
I've done some 40x saliva about 3 times. Wierd and disassociative is the best way I can describe those experiences. They were all different, none were "scary", but none were pleasant in any way either. I don't recommend salvia.
I've eaten shrooms countless times at this point in my life. I've grown them on and off since 2007 at different points. I even documented one of those grows and several of my subsequent trips in my grow journal. I've had trips on 6-7 dried grams a few times, its very intense. I usually enjoy about 3 grams if I wanna trip, and love just eating a gram and having a nice evening sometimes. Mushrooms will connect you with your inner self, they open up the communication between your conscious and subconscious. Mycelium is one of the oldest organisms in the world, and I've very much come to believe that it uses the mushroom fruits it produces to share knowledge with us. Knowledge about ourselves, and the world around us. I love mushrooms, but also learned early to respect their power. Mushrooms have always been lots of fun, but on heavier doses I definitely tend to get more quiet and introspective. I strongly recommend mushrooms to anyone that is open to adventure and doesn't have any major mental health issues.
I've also eaten a bunch of acid at this point. There were a few summers back around 2014-15-16 especially where I went through a couple hundred doses between me and my wife(mostly me lol). Acid has always been a blast for me. One hit isn't usually as much as you think it will be, and when people only ever try one hit they usually seem very underwhelmed. I've given doses to friends a bunch of times, and started them with one so they didn't get overwhelmed. Usually they say something like "really that's what acid is like, that's not that big a deal". But once you start eating a few more hits things start getting much more intense. Rainbow light trails, and every surface seemingly moving around wiggling and waving. Fractals at higher doses, and defintiely patterns forming and changing constantly kind of overlayed on the natural surroundings of where you are. I've watched faces form in tree branches, I've watched flowers bloom in the fall that only had leaves and stalks in reality. Colors change and become more intense, and sex is fucking awesome
. I strongly recommend acid to people that like fun, adventure, and a great 12 hours of partying.The last thing I'm gonna share is what I consider to be the keys to having fun and successful trips that allow personal growth and entertainment.
MINDSET
SETTING
INTENTION
Try to go into any psychedelic experience with a positive mindset. Don't try tripping when you are totally stressed out, or emotionally dealing with things that could effect your experience.
Have a comfortable setting, try to be prepared for your "TRIP". Try to be in a place that is safe and comfortable, especially on higher doses I tend to just stay home. On lower doses it can be fun to trip at festivals or concerts. You just have to learn what is the right amount for the experience you intend to have.
I have certain ways I like to dress while tripping to help not get clamy, sweaty or even to cold. I"ve found that personal temperature control helps greatly with having an enjoyable experience. I like to have a few usually healthy snacks, some fruit is usually extra delicious. I also like to plan a variety of entertainment options so that whatever mood I'm in I've got it covered before hand and don't have to figure it out while tripping. So I'll have some art stuff, some movies, maybe some sort of moving lights to watch and listen to music. You get the idea.
Intention is also important. If you want to work on personal growth, then going into the experience with a goal and a specific thing to work on in mind will help guide you. If you are just trying to have fun, then preparing a head and going into the experience with the INTENTION of having a really fun time will help make that happen!!
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HGCC
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Salvia is worth trying once or twice, whatever the strongest extract you can find, I think 60x was what I had. It was like 15 years ago, amazing in that you will trip balls for 15 minutes and then come right back. That said, nobody ever really wants to do it more than a few tunes. Seriously caught me by surprise though.
Never tried the fake weed but was curious.
GreenhouseGreen
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K2/Spice made a lot of sense back in 2012ish. It wasn't tested for so you can smoke it on probation or whatever. It was a huge hit in the military. It was relatively cheap. You could smoke it in a blunt. These days it makes a lot less sense. I smoked it a couple times back then but, I never liked it. I also was able to smoke weed so it was kind of dumb. Made me feel crazy and my heart felt.. odd..
Kratom is another one that makes sense for those who get tested. Many who smoke bud won't really have a desire for it because a joint of decent Indica will likely do more for you than kratom. It's immensely helpful for some people trying to get off actual opiates, though. At higher doses it feels somewhat like a perc 5 but not as clean. The body load of high doses kind of sucks in my opinion. It's now tested for at some rehab facilities and similar places. But, it probably isn't in your typical employee test.
Salvia is like DMTs nasty cousin. It's super intense, high body load, and hits stupid fast. It ends quickly and you may not remember any of it. I wouldn't really call it "fun" but, it is an experience. Nobody's mentioned it I don't think but Salvia is fucking harsh. I've smoked it a few ways and it always fucking hurts. Also not typically tested for (if it's even possible, I don't know.)
Just my experiences and opinions with these.
Kratom is another one that makes sense for those who get tested. Many who smoke bud won't really have a desire for it because a joint of decent Indica will likely do more for you than kratom. It's immensely helpful for some people trying to get off actual opiates, though. At higher doses it feels somewhat like a perc 5 but not as clean. The body load of high doses kind of sucks in my opinion. It's now tested for at some rehab facilities and similar places. But, it probably isn't in your typical employee test.
Salvia is like DMTs nasty cousin. It's super intense, high body load, and hits stupid fast. It ends quickly and you may not remember any of it. I wouldn't really call it "fun" but, it is an experience. Nobody's mentioned it I don't think but Salvia is fucking harsh. I've smoked it a few ways and it always fucking hurts. Also not typically tested for (if it's even possible, I don't know.)
Just my experiences and opinions with these.
shroomhaze
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I like salvia a lot, to me its a huge teacher. A harsh teacher and very scary at times, it needs to be approached with respect and caution. Extract are usually too much IMO and I wouldnt go anything higher then 5x-10x before working with the plant for a long time. K2, Spice are not like salvia at all
Rurumo
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So Salvia is like a nun, got it.
Moabfighter
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I know I posted earlier but again I just can’t wrap my head around how bizarre a intense salvia experience is. It’s like nothing you’ve ever experienced. I think I’m one and done with it. Have a lot. But man…. The detachment from the physical body and not really being able to control anything about the absolute fucking insane shit your mind is showing you is abit scary.
MyBallzItch
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Yup and roll up your weed ahead of time. I love smoking weed when tripping but HATE HATE HATE rolling up lolFIrst let me point out for the OP and anyone else unaware, that the drugs in the title are not even remotely the same, and elicit very different effects.
I didn't start smoking weed until I was 19, I ate my first mushrooms when I was 20, ate my first acid when I was 22or23, salvia some where around 25 Those are pretty much the only drugs I've done.
I've done some 40x saliva about 3 times. Wierd and disassociative is the best way I can describe those experiences. They were all different, none were "scary", but none were pleasant in any way either. I don't recommend salvia.
I've eaten shrooms countless times at this point in my life. I've grown them on and off since 2007 at different points. I even documented one of those grows and several of my subsequent trips in my grow journal. I've had trips on 6-7 dried grams a few times, its very intense. I usually enjoy about 3 grams if I wanna trip, and love just eating a gram and having a nice evening sometimes. Mushrooms will connect you with your inner self, they open up the communication between your conscious and subconscious. Mycelium is one of the oldest organisms in the world, and I've very much come to believe that it uses the mushroom fruits it produces to share knowledge with us. Knowledge about ourselves, and the world around us. I love mushrooms, but also learned early to respect their power. Mushrooms have always been lots of fun, but on heavier doses I definitely tend to get more quiet and introspective. I strongly recommend mushrooms to anyone that is open to adventure and doesn't have any major mental health issues.
I've also eaten a bunch of acid at this point. There were a few summers back around 2014-15-16 especially where I went through a couple hundred doses between me and my wife(mostly me lol). Acid has always been a blast for me. One hit isn't usually as much as you think it will be, and when people only ever try one hit they usually seem very underwhelmed. I've given doses to friends a bunch of times, and started them with one so they didn't get overwhelmed. Usually they say something like "really that's what acid is like, that's not that big a deal". But once you start eating a few more hits things start getting much more intense. Rainbow light trails, and every surface seemingly moving around wiggling and waving. Fractals at higher doses, and defintiely patterns forming and changing constantly kind of overlayed on the natural surroundings of where you are. I've watched faces form in tree branches, I've watched flowers bloom in the fall that only had leaves and stalks in reality. Colors change and become more intense, and sex is fucking awesome
The last thing I'm gonna share is what I consider to be the keys to having fun and successful trips that allow personal growth and entertainment.
MINDSET
SETTING
INTENTION
Try to go into any psychedelic experience with a positive mindset. Don't try tripping when you are totally stressed out, or emotionally dealing with things that could effect your experience.
Have a comfortable setting, try to be prepared for your "TRIP". Try to be in a place that is safe and comfortable, especially on higher doses I tend to just stay home. On lower doses it can be fun to trip at festivals or concerts. You just have to learn what is the right amount for the experience you intend to have.
I have certain ways I like to dress while tripping to help not get clamy, sweaty or even to cold. I"ve found that personal temperature control helps greatly with having an enjoyable experience. I like to have a few usually healthy snacks, some fruit is usually extra delicious. I also like to plan a variety of entertainment options so that whatever mood I'm in I've got it covered before hand and don't have to figure it out while tripping. So I'll have some art stuff, some movies, maybe some sort of moving lights to watch and listen to music. You get the idea.
Intention is also important. If you want to work on personal growth, then going into the experience with a goal and a specific thing to work on in mind will help guide you. If you are just trying to have fun, then preparing a head and going into the experience with the INTENTION of having a really fun time will help make that happen!!
Thundercat
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Super true, I can't believe I forgot to add that part, thanks for getting it in! I love smoking while I trip too, but it's way harder to roll anything, and way easier to forget you have a pipe laying someplace weird and drop it.
Milky Weed
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I really like kratom, it works like an antidepressant for me and fills my incessant opium craving. I can’t function on opium, I can on kratom.
It has its own drawbacks such as addiction, but for me it is a much lesser evil than say methadone.
I never tried salvia because I had plenty of dmt, and the way salvia sounded I stuck with dmt and still happy I did.
K2/Spice is whack. I’ve only tried it once and I hated the feeling, I felt like the green goblin from Spider-Man on it.
It has its own drawbacks such as addiction, but for me it is a much lesser evil than say methadone.
I never tried salvia because I had plenty of dmt, and the way salvia sounded I stuck with dmt and still happy I did.
K2/Spice is whack. I’ve only tried it once and I hated the feeling, I felt like the green goblin from Spider-Man on it.
Lockedin
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I will be having some kratom later today - helped out at a friend's restaurant & realized I'm not in my 20's anymore.
4-5 grams - I have a bad knee that has already started complaining - sleep will be tough if I don't get in front of it...
Weed helps, kratom helps - a bit of both REALLY helps.
I was a sponsored skateboarder as a kid - now I know why everyone said I'd pay for some of the stuff I did to my body - but I'd do it again....
4-5 grams - I have a bad knee that has already started complaining - sleep will be tough if I don't get in front of it...
Weed helps, kratom helps - a bit of both REALLY helps.
I was a sponsored skateboarder as a kid - now I know why everyone said I'd pay for some of the stuff I did to my body - but I'd do it again....
Once received a giant trash bag of Salvia. I was supposed to get a sample. Anyway, you have to smoke it really hot and fast. Not the most comfortable smoke. After a few smoke sessions with it I gave the bag to somebody as I wasn't interested in it. They also gave me a few pounds of Hawaiian wood rose seeds (?) as a sample. Those I liked a lot better. Made super strong capsules out of those, after you got over the initial up-chuck the high was really nice.
DankMcNuggets
Member
Oh man salvia…I did it three different times. Always purple sticky salvia. The first two times made us hallucinate things that weren’t there, but we were all still very much in this same dimension. So I decided we needed the stronger shit. I bought 80x…it was a bad time. We were all sitting in my buddies room, maybe 6-8 people, listening to metal, and all the people who weren’t tripping at the time were videotaping it. So in a small room, metal playing, and people with their phones in your face. Not one single person had a good trip lol. We all went into an alternate reality. Some people went to “lego land” as they described it. Everyone looked like legos I guess idk I didn’t experience that. Then someone said he thought all his skin turned into rubber…he called his sister to come pick him up after he came down from the high because he was so uncomfortable. In the video you see me hit the steamroller, lay back on my buddies bed then jump up onto my feet rather fast. Stood there for a second, tried to take a step but only lifted my leg and leaned forward. My head bounced off my buddies bass drum and I rolled over onto my back and started hitting my fist on the ground because my skin was falling off it every time I did that but it was falling off in the shape of alphabet soup…fuckin weird. Then while I was laying on the floor and had an out of body experience. I was in the room looking down at my body then just started going higher and higher, saw the house, then the whole state, then the country, then I was in space watching the earth rotate. The earth, while rotating, then turned into the faces of my friends who were in the room with me. Every time it rotated and a new face emerged I was told another terrifying statement….
“Everything’s been a lie”
“This is reality, nothing you’ve experienced was real”
“Everything’s been a dream”
then I crashed back into my body and was pretty freaked out for a bit. It literally felt like I was tripping for an eternity…I think I’d rather have another bad acid trip before trying it again to be honest…all of us freaked out, we drooled, yelled incoherent sentences, and just all around had a bad time. But it was a lot of fun laughing atwhoever was tripping at the time. I 100%believe that we all had a bad trip because of the setting we did the salvia in but it was hilarious…until you were the one freaking out lol
“Everything’s been a lie”
“This is reality, nothing you’ve experienced was real”
“Everything’s been a dream”
then I crashed back into my body and was pretty freaked out for a bit. It literally felt like I was tripping for an eternity…I think I’d rather have another bad acid trip before trying it again to be honest…all of us freaked out, we drooled, yelled incoherent sentences, and just all around had a bad time. But it was a lot of fun laughing atwhoever was tripping at the time. I 100%believe that we all had a bad trip because of the setting we did the salvia in but it was hilarious…until you were the one freaking out lol
DankMcNuggets
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This was the stuff we did. Bought it at the local head shop over a decade ago. 
Hieronymus
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Salvia is fun for me but it's like a painful DMT experience.
Hieronymus
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It's like blacking out into a fucking croissant maker, total fucking sketchy alien fair vibe. It always makes me feel like I'm being churned on an atomic level. It's similar to DMT but too heavy for some. Kratom I did by the kg for years it's a fun way to get dope sick from something that isn't dope.
Hieronymus
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As for why? Well I've always been interested in mind altering substances and will try thing for the hell of it. Ever hear of yopo? It's crazy 5meodmt beans you toast grind mix with calcium hydroxide and blow. Crazy hard trip.
Moabfighter
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Dude! I bought jars and jars of this at Myrtle beach. Used it once and still have jars and jars of it lol. Strong shit
Bought large quantity of JWH-018 dirt cheap when it was still legal. Turned into a shitfest of fiending behavior and pot smokers on probation acting like it was crack. Wound up dumping remainder of material for everyones safety.
Bought large quantity of MH Root bark shortly before that was effectively outlawed it. Processed it into NNDMT. One person wound up permanently believing the earth was flat. Did manage to spend enough time in hyperspace to build a nice summer cabin. Still visit it sometimes in my dreams.
Salvia... stay the fuck away from drugs which produce delirium and while allowing physical mobility. Same thing with MXE.
These things will teach you lessons, not always good ones. If you are going to go down that road you better have a fucking map and read the travel guides first and learn to say "help me, I took some shit and I think I'm dying in the local language."
Bought large quantity of MH Root bark shortly before that was effectively outlawed it. Processed it into NNDMT. One person wound up permanently believing the earth was flat. Did manage to spend enough time in hyperspace to build a nice summer cabin. Still visit it sometimes in my dreams.
Salvia... stay the fuck away from drugs which produce delirium and while allowing physical mobility. Same thing with MXE.
These things will teach you lessons, not always good ones. If you are going to go down that road you better have a fucking map and read the travel guides first and learn to say "help me, I took some shit and I think I'm dying in the local language."