Keeping the good smell after harvest??????

Hey guys I picked a small bud to dry and cure for shits and giggles but it seems that after I picked the bud and let it dry for a couple days that that dank smell is now gone.Will it come back after I place in jar for curing cause it smells super weak compared to the grow tent!!!!

Smitty42088 said:

Hey guys I picked a small bud to dry and cure for shits and giggles but it seems that after I picked the bud and let it dry for a couple days that that dank smell is now gone.Will it come back after I place in jar for curing cause it smells super weak compared to the grow tent!!!!

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If it’s not ready to dry it will lose it’s smell. If it’s dried improperly it’ll lose its smell.

Lordhooha said:

If it’s not ready to dry it will lose it’s smell. If it’s dried improperly it’ll lose its smell.

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Right on I mean it could be harvested now if it was flushed and it’s only been hanging a couple days I’m just hella worried I’m gonna lose the dankness of the bud.

Smitty42088 said:

Right on I mean it could be harvested now if it was flushed and it’s only been hanging a couple days I’m just hella worried I’m gonna lose the dankness of the bud.

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proper slow dry, followed by a nice slow cure is the best way to lock in the flavor..
cut buds, trim and clean.. hang for as long as it takes for the outside of the buds to start to feel dry to the touch.. some people say wait till the stems snap instead of bend, but i think at this point the buds are a bit too dry for my liking.. anyhoo, once the outside of the buds are dry to the touch, into jars they should go.. use a nice mason jar or the like with a good seal on the lid.. the first few days in the jar are precious.. open them up after a few hours after going into jars to make sure they're not too wet.. the buds will start to sweat in the jars and if they were a bit too wet going on, you'll know it when you feel them after opening.. if they're too wet, open the jars, take the buds out and leave them in the open for a few hours until they feel dry enough to jar again, if they're not too wet, open the jars and leave them open for a good ten minutes or so at a time.. you can always move the buds around at the point if you so choose.. once the buds feel dry after a few hours in the jar, continue to open them up every few hours for the first week'ish or so.. you'll know when they no longer need to be "burped" as often, and you can cut it down to once or so a day for the rest of the time.. i've found it takes a minimum of about 3 weeks or so in jars for the flavor to be locked.. the longer the cure in the jars, the better the taste some people believe.. i personally like at least a month or so if i can keep my hands out of them for that long..
hope this helps.

Smitty42088 said:

Right on I mean it could be harvested now if it was flushed and it’s only been hanging a couple days I’m just hella worried I’m gonna lose the dankness of the bud.

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If it came from the plant on your other post that plant isn't ready yet maybe 2 weeks left on it.

Lordhooha said:

If it came from the plant on your other post that plant isn't ready yet maybe 2 weeks left on it.

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It is I’m actually just starting to flush them before I put them in 48 hrs of darkness I was thinking two weeks to go as well that will put me at about nine weeks

Smitty42088 said:

It is I’m actually just starting to flush them before I put them in 48 hrs of darkness I was thinking two weeks to go as well that will put me at about nine weeks

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Um, to be clear on these things..

Both of them are a myth!

Proper slow dry and cure, takes care of the whole thing....

I got asked about this in a PM by a member after seeing the disaster another thread became. He asked where to find books and papers on "flushing" and said he might try the "fade".

Here's my answer to him......I felt it needs to be seen,,,,,,again!

Your looking for post grad work. You would do better to search papers......The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant! Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds, but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

Dr. Who said:

Um, to be clear on these things..

Both of them are a myth!

Proper slow dry and cure, takes care of the whole thing....

I got asked about this in a PM by a member after seeing the disaster another thread became. He asked where to find books and papers on "flushing" and said he might try the "fade".

Here's my answer to him......I felt it needs to be seen,,,,,,again!

Your looking for post grad work. You would do better to search papers......The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant! Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds, but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

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Said in reply to Dr. Who (In the past)....

Roger A. Shrubber said:

you're wasting your breath. i've told so many people the exact same thing, and it's like they have a brick wall between them and the truth, they just keep smashing against it like a bug trying to get to a light.
i took your information over a year ago, read up on it, found it to be completely accurate, and took it to heart, even though i was already leaning that way. i didn't take anything for granted, i looked it up myself. and it's 100% accurate.
flushing is a waste of time at the best, and counter productive to your desired goal at worst.

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I'm an older person, but not too old to learn new shit. Especially when it's a subject I'm not so informed on. I too did my own research, and changed my view on flushing. Many thanks to the both of you, for taking the time in the past to explain things. And you know what? I've got one less thing to worry about.... Lol

My two cents - Don't flush, doesn't make a difference. Do cure, it will indeed improve/lock in the taste and flavor, but a lot of that also depends on your grow success, when you harvest, and genetics, regardless of your curing skills. I've got curing down to a science I feel like. But sometimes a crappy grow nothings helps. Also chopping too soon is a big no no, although ironically you'll sometimes get better flavor but less effect cutting earlier. Some strains just lose some of their terpenes before it's ready to harvest - and yet some other strains will always smell and taste like heaven almost no matter how bad you screw up...

An old timer here said that he cures his bud when it's dry enough that a joint stays lit. Regardless of stem or bud feel. Haven't tried it but it sounds to me like a good way to tell.

Xcoregamerskillz said:

An old timer here said that he cures his bud when it's dry enough that a joint stays lit. Regardless of stem or bud feel. Haven't tried it but it sounds to me like a good way to tell.

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True, that's at least a good indicator of how much moisture is in the buds at that given moment. Just make sure they don't dry out too much from when they are chopped. There's a point where adding moisture back to dry buds doesn't really help the cure...

monitor temperature and humidity. keep temperature at same level, don't let it change up and down

I’m only on my second grow, but my first grow I did outside here in Michigan. Plant was 5 foot tall and flowered for like....80-90 days (multiple years ago). For sure a Sativa, I still feel like I chopped early even though some trichs were Amber. I remember drying the best I could, and I remember curing for a month. Never could get rid of the cut grass smell. It was disappointing. Smoked okay, but too heady (another sign of early harvest) for me. I literally gave away all of it. I wasn’t going to smoke it and would have felt guilty taking money for it (not that someone like myself would ever do such a thing)

OscarZulu said:

I’m only on my second grow, but my first grow I did outside here in Michigan. Plant was 5 foot tall and flowered for like....80-90 days (multiple years ago). For sure a Sativa, I still feel like I chopped early even though some trichs were Amber. I remember drying the best I could, and I remember curing for a month. Never could get rid of the cut grass smell. It was disappointing. Smoked okay, but too heady (another sign of early harvest) for me. I literally gave away all of it. I wasn’t going to smoke it and would have felt guilty taking money for it (not that someone like myself would ever do such a thing)

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I’m sure you pulled early most people starting out check trichromes on the leaves rather than the bud itself.

I'm sure I pulled early too. I had to however, it was getting down near 40 at night

OscarZulu said:

I'm sure I pulled early too. I had to however, it was getting down near 40 at night

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Oh yah I’m northern mi too it’s why I’m building a huge greenhouse for outdoor grows.

It would be awesome to have a greenhouse, but for now, I'm a tent grower lol. I do plan on doing some outside growing this next year on my parents property.

Cool slow dry and a dry trim, will preserve the terps.

Drying for longer while cooler but no so long/cool as to promote mold and rot should help.

I prefer to jar more to dry side than on the moist side but that's only my preference. I like the herbs to be a in a state that when broken up will ooze and slowly roll down itself, if that can be visualized.

Some strains I find will seem to lose their smell and with time bloom back to life in the jar. Others smell strong from the get perhaps those strains sport terps which are not as volatile.

Keep things cooler when possible.

I do flush my stuff still as do a lot of others. For me the end flush is running water only near the end of the crop. Nothing wrong with that.

OscarZulu said:

It would be awesome to have a greenhouse, but for now, I'm a tent grower lol. I do plan on doing some outside growing this next year on my parents property.

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It’s nice I have several indoor grow rooms I’ve built but for spring I want to do a few outdoor plants. I’ve been working on a 30x40 greenhouse so far. That’s slightly messed up though growing on their property hopefully they’re cool with that.