Keeping your plants below the fence

Clown Baby · Jun 20, 2012

I dont know how obvious this is, but I thought I'd share.

I started outdoor season early this year. Popped seeds in February and put my plants out in the beginning of April. Anyways, something had to be done to control the height of these guys. I live in a residential neighborhood and the neighbors have kids. I'm sure they wouldn't enjoy a 10 foot chronic plant towering over the fence.

So in an effort to deal with that height and avoid topping, I set up a 4'x8' trellis and trained the plant through it. Right now it's about 2.5' to 3' at the highest point. Without the trellis, it would easily be 4' or 5' tall. The trellis not only serves to control height, but it also supports the weight of the plant, so I (hopefully) wont have to put up stakes during flowering.

The strain is Krakatoa from Irie Vibe seeds (they accept paypal) and the soil is some god awful clay that I should have dug out when I planted this. The sequence of pics ranges from roughly April 5th to June 15.

Ringsixty · Jun 20, 2012

SCROG....

nice plant

Kaendar · Jun 20, 2012

Could I ask why you wanted to avoid topping? That would increase your yield and help with the height problem.

Clown Baby · Jun 20, 2012

Ringsixty said:
SCROG....

nice plant

Ya... I just didnt want to use the term SCROG because I know someone would jump on their soapbox about how "its not a true scrog"..

Kaendar said:
Could I ask why you wanted to avoid topping? That would increase your yield and help with the height problem.

I dont like to top because it causes a lag in growth. If you bend it over like this (LST?) It will cause the plant to branch out (same result as topping) without the added stress and delay in growth.

Kaendar · Jun 20, 2012

Clown Baby said:
Ya... I just didnt want to use the term SCROG because I know someone would jump on their soapbox about how "its not a true scrog"..

I dont like to top because it causes a lag in growth. If you bend it over like this (LST?) It will cause the plant to branch out (same result as topping) without the added stress and delay in growth.

Im guessing you never heard of the FIM technique?

smang · Jun 20, 2012

Kaendar said:
Im guessing you never heard of the FIM technique?

Can you please stop posting so much and stop pretending like you know what you're doing.
First of all whether you FIM or top, there will be lag.

Nice plants BTW, what you feeding them?

TogTokes · Jun 20, 2012

smang said:
Can you please stop posting so much and stop pretending like you know what you're doing.
First of all whether you FIM or top, there will be lag.

Nice plants BTW, what you feeding them?

So true.........

Kaendar · Jun 20, 2012

smang said:
Can you please stop posting so much and stop pretending like you know what you're doing.
First of all whether you FIM or top, there will be lag.

Nice plants BTW, what you feeding them?

Not true, FIM doesnt cause as much lag as topping and it usually makes the plant bush out faster.

Clown Baby · Jun 20, 2012

Fimming or topping, it's still going to stress the plant n cause it to slow down for a while.
different strokes for different folks. you can FIM your plants all you'd like.

I give my plants a light feeding with every watering:
Botanicare pure blend pro grow <== im liking this stuff for outdoor
maxicrop sea kelp <== 20$/gallon. stuff works wonders
2 or 3 TBS molasses/4 gallons

I add about 0.3 EC of the botanicare, and after everythings in there (including tap water) it's about 1.2 EC.

Sometimes ill add a TBS of liquid karma, just because my hydro shop gives me samples. I dont know that I'd buy the karma though... not sure that it's more than just kelp and molasses in itself... either way, since they give me free stuff i gotta plug Rasahydroponics.com. good prices, if youre buying online check em out. they sell the vertigrow trays from the grow in my sig.

shameless plug aside, in hydro i run base nutes, kelp, and a pk booster. In soil I'll add molasses into the mix.

smang · Jun 21, 2012

Damn not bad at all.
They are looking great imagine if you had a non clay based soil!

Fimming make the plant lag aswell, why would you want any lag when I can get 9-10 top by bending my plant over with no lag?

Nunchukawaria · Jun 21, 2012

Dude, you put way to much effort into that when you could have simly tied it down with twine and a stake. Topping doesnt always pay off as much as training, altho its easy to do, I've had it set back my flowering time from auto to october. What I would do is train it sideways till the brances strech upwards and then bury the stem in good soil. Maybe set a rock or brick on it to keep it down in the dirt. You will have a world record root mass and a crazy marijuana train snaking around your fenceline. P.S. Your profile picture sucks.

Nunchukawaria · Jun 21, 2012

I don't know what fimming is but training does not slow the growth, if anything it speeds growth by getting more light to the whole plant.

Clown Baby · Jun 21, 2012

Nunchukawaria said:
I don't know what fimming is but training does not slow the growth, if anything it speeds growth by getting more light to the whole plant.

i dont think anybody was arguing that training slows growth. reread this when you are not stoned.
then pm heath robinson and let him know that he put too much work into his vertical grows when he could have instead just put a brick on top of his plants

Nunchukawaria · Jun 21, 2012

Clown Baby said:
i dont think anybody was arguing that training slows growth. reread this when you are not stoned.
then pm heath robinson and let him know that he put too much work into his vertical grows when he could have instead just put a brick on top of his plants

I don't get stoned kid, I get high and I stay high.

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