Kona Gold: The Blood. Rare Hawaiian strain

James Lilie said:

View attachment 4138672 You guys all bum me out, I'll just have to appreciate the fact thats the seeds are from HI. Its my favorate place. Like I said I grew out some Kona Gold last year and it wasnt bax, not the best Ive ever grown, but I certainly wont critize it. If zi got suckered, I'll never know, the seeds do ship tho. I jumped on the ban wagon to get some of that Molokai Frost, the presummer order. I figure I'll dispute it with paypal if this guy fucks me, he didnt the 1st time....The comment about spotting Hawaiian genetics in veg, come on dude even I'm not that dumb and I bought seeds from Pua Mana 2x( really hoping not to be a sucker). As far as Ace goes, Ive gotten some decent stuff there. I really want to grow the purple mexican (closest to Oaxaca Highland) I can find availible commercially. I'm just about to harvest Bubblegum XL, PLC- Cobs, hydro flood and drain.

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kona gold said:

He's what we know so far about Pua Mana Ohana.......
They ship seeds
They have a pretty good germination rate
They are sativa dominant
They produce decent 1st round experiences
They are different strains.

So why would they be bullshit?
Why is someone going to breed like 20+ different strains, and do all that work for bs?
That's a lot of work!!
As if they were just F1's there would be similarities. My two strains were completely different. All the seeds look uniform per strain.
Those factors, plus the structure, stem rub, and health of the plants tell me they are legit something.
There was no hermaphrodites reported.

So unless someone can explain why someone would go to all that trouble to create that many strains to be fake , is beyond me.

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kona gold said:

I get that can rub one the wrong way.


At @James Lilie , you do not live in Hawai'i or have grown much Hawaiian genetics, so don't be disrespectful to people that have been growing Hawaiian genetics for 28 years!
Let me put it simple for you!!!!
I can, as well as many others, spot GSC, Kush, Sour diesel and others in veg.
So it's the same with Hawaiian strains for me as well.
So if others can spot the aforementioned, why do you disbelieve someone can spot them?

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kona gold said:

He's what we know so far about Pua Mana Ohana.......
They ship seeds
They have a pretty good germination rate
They are sativa dominant
They produce decent 1st round experiences
They are different strains.

So why would they be bullshit?
Why is someone going to breed like 20+ different strains, and do all that work for bs?
That's a lot of work!!
As if they were just F1's there would be similarities. My two strains were completely different. All the seeds look uniform per strain.
Those factors, plus the structure, stem rub, and health of the plants tell me they are legit something.
There was no hermaphrodites reported.

So unless someone can explain why someone would go to all that trouble to create that many strains to be fake , is beyond me.

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waterproof808 said:

You're comparing being able to identify well known clone only varieties in veg to being able to detect any variety from Hawaii by looking at seedlings "much shorter than a foot"....thats apples to fucking oranges.

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jayblaze710 said:

You’re sounding pretty naive and gullible.

Why would he be dishonest about the genetics? Because people like you will buy it up.

If he sold his stuff as some Thai, African, or South American crosses, people wouldn’t care. That stuff is already available from other, much more reputable breeders. Why would anyone purchase from him?

But Hawaiian pot, nobody has that. They were extremely popular back in the day, so there’s already a mystique to them. Use some popular names that people already know (who hasn’t heard of Maui Wowie? Even non pot smokers have heard of it), attach some stories you’ve scoured from the internet, all of a sudden you have a highly desirable product that nobody else has.

The fact is, there are many, many breeders who lie about their genetics. That’s why the most important thing when choosing a breeder is to find someone who has the legit genetics, and is open and honest about the cuts they use.

What you’ve described about Pua Mana, that the seeds are sativa dominant, are decent, and don’t herm, can be had from a dozen other places for cheaper. The only thing Pua Mana offers that the other guys don’t is a fairy tale. But that’s all it is. A fairy tale.

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rikdabrick said:

Right on braddah. I was just checking, ha ha!

Beautiful job on those plants! That looks like an impressive yielding variety. How's it smell?

And thanks for the feedback on Pua Mana's seeds. Pua Mana needs some reviews online from some legit growers like yourself. Just because he's a multi-poster fake ass dude doesn't mean his genetics suck. I'm sure they're not the classic varieties from the 60's and 70's but if you're happy with the results then do what you do. The genetics could be from Hawaii too. If you grow out the Molokai Frost let us know how it turns out. You can start your own thread or just post it in the Hawaii Growers thread.

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• Thanks, the smell is good, but wish it were stronger! Well see how that Botanicare sweet works out with it. I know I should just use molasses, but hey I love experimenting. I will absolutely do a journal on the Frost, when and if it shows!

TimBar said:

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kona gold said:

I get that can rub one the wrong way.


At @James Lilie , you do not live in Hawai'i or have grown much Hawaiian genetics, so don't be disrespectful to people that have been growing Hawaiian genetics for 28 years!
Let me put it simple for you!!!!
I can, as well as many others, spot GSC, Kush, Sour diesel and others in veg.
So it's the same with Hawaiian strains for me as well.
So if others can spot the aforementioned, why do you disbelieve someone can spot them?

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kona gold said:

No body asked you or forced you to buy their stuff, so no worry.
You go buy your seeds from who you like, no need to bring your opinion to this thread.

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kona gold said:

People who grew in Hawa' i before the medical era, had their own strains. They were know for this!
So if someone had your strain or stolen it, you could spot it no problem.

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James Lilie said:

Hey @kona gold . I am going to do a grow journal with the Kona Gold beans I have left and post to this Thread. I will start it this week and post over the summer everything that I do. I believe I have 6 left out of the original 10 still with original packaging. The packaging is very nice, feels high quality, I'll include pics so ppl can see. This will do a few things, show case your genetics, give people more of a reference point for Hawaiian genetics( your genetics) instead of the back and forth from everyone.

I do request though that as these beans sprout and move into Veg that you point out the phenotypes that make this strain specifically Hawaiian. What would be especially helpful would be is if you can provide some breeder insight or tips to make this grow shine. During flower I will run 11/13 or 10/14 just like the Hawaiian sun.

I haven't grown for 28 years like yourself, but I'm not a novice either, I've been around the block and around some very experienced people in CO, long before legalization took place. I experienced the legendary Colorado Cough, you can look it up on seedfinder.eu, the info is correct. I'm also not in the habit of disrespecting people either and that's why I'm going to do this grow, to give you an opportunity to chime in and educated us. Hopefully this grow will help other in this thread make a more informed assessment, time will only tell.

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jayblaze710 said:

You’re sounding pretty naive and gullible.

Why would he be dishonest about the genetics? Because people like you will buy it up.

If he sold his stuff as some Thai, African, or South American crosses, people wouldn’t care. That stuff is already available from other, much more reputable breeders. Why would anyone purchase from him?

But Hawaiian pot, nobody has that. They were extremely popular back in the day, so there’s already a mystique to them. Use some popular names that people already know (who hasn’t heard of Maui Wowie? Even non pot smokers have heard of it), attach some stories you’ve scoured from the internet, all of a sudden you have a highly desirable product that nobody else has.

The fact is, there are many, many breeders who lie about their genetics. That’s why the most important thing when choosing a breeder is to find someone who has the legit genetics, and is open and honest about the cuts they use.

What you’ve described about Pua Mana, that the seeds are sativa dominant, are decent, and don’t herm, can be had from a dozen other places for cheaper. The only thing Pua Mana offers that the other guys don’t is a fairy tale. But that’s all it is. A fairy tale.

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aaagreen said:

These haters are worse than herpes they are AIDS because they are slowly killing Hawaiian strain by drowning facts with ignorant troll rants and pushing their crappy hybrids.

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James Lilie said:

Hey @kona gold . I am going to do a grow journal with the Kona Gold beans I have left and post to this Thread. I will start it this week and post over the summer everything that I do. I believe I have 6 left out of the original 10 still with original packaging. The packaging is very nice, feels high quality, I'll include pics so ppl can see. This will do a few things, show case your genetics, give people more of a reference point for Hawaiian genetics( your genetics) instead of the back and forth from everyone.

I do request though that as these beans sprout and move into Veg that you point out the phenotypes that make this strain specifically Hawaiian. What would be especially helpful would be is if you can provide some breeder insight or tips to make this grow shine. During flower I will run 11/13 or 10/14 just like the Hawaiian sun.

I haven't grown for 28 years like yourself, but I'm not a novice either, I've been around the block and around some very experienced people in CO, long before legalization took place. I experienced the legendary Colorado Cough, you can look it up on seedfinder.eu, the info is correct. I'm also not in the habit of disrespecting people either and that's why I'm going to do this grow, to give you an opportunity to chime in and educated us. Hopefully this grow will help other in this thread make a more informed assessment, time will only tell.

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James Lilie said:

Hey @kona gold . I am going to do a grow journal with the Kona Gold beans I have left and post to this Thread. I will start it this week and post over the summer everything that I do. I believe I have 6 left out of the original 10 still with original packaging. The packaging is very nice, feels high quality, I'll include pics so ppl can see. This will do a few things, show case your genetics, give people more of a reference point for Hawaiian genetics( your genetics) instead of the back and forth from everyone.

I do request though that as these beans sprout and move into Veg that you point out the phenotypes that make this strain specifically Hawaiian. What would be especially helpful would be is if you can provide some breeder insight or tips to make this grow shine. During flower I will run 11/13 or 10/14 just like the Hawaiian sun.

I haven't grown for 28 years like yourself, but I'm not a novice either, I've been around the block and around some very experienced people in CO, long before legalization took place. I experienced the legendary Colorado Cough, you can look it up on seedfinder.eu, the info is correct. I'm also not in the habit of disrespecting people either and that's why I'm going to do this grow, to give you an opportunity to chime in and educated us. Hopefully this grow will help other in this thread make a more informed assessment, time will only tell.

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