Landrace Sativa

Dabbie McDoob

Dabbie McDoob

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Ladies and gentlemen,

Background: My friend traveled to Jamaica and managed to bring back 50 seeds from the Blue Mountains. The rastafarian showed the tour an area where "ganja" grows wild. Tourists were encouraged to take "samples" to which my friend obliged. Near the end of the tour the guide stated that the plants were known by locals as lambsbread due to it's odor. This was good news to me.

Based off my initial analysis of the 30 or so specimens that survived germination, this female was allowed to enter the champagne room.
Plant was approx 10 -12cm (1 foot) at the transition to flower. Thus it appears to have grown about 400-600% during the stretch.
Internodal spacing is marked. Approximately 30cm between nodes.

Terpenes and resins are still not adequate to provide assessment. However, the plant odour is foul and unique.

Note: Thank god I left it in a 1 gal container. It likely would have exceeded my size limit.
Yes I could super crop, however, I wanted to see the plant develop naturally for fun.

This run is merely to propagate the genetics and have a little fun.

Cheers.
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farmingfisherman

farmingfisherman

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Dabbie McDoob said:
Ladies and gentlemen,

Background: My friend traveled to Jamaica and managed to bring back 50 seeds from the Blue Mountains. The rastafarian showed the tour an area where "ganja" grows wild. Tourists were encouraged to take "samples" to which my friend obliged. Near the end of the tour the guide stated that the plants were known by locals as lambsbread due to it's odor. This was good news to me.

Based off my initial analysis of the 30 or so specimens that survived germination, this female was allowed to enter the champagne room.
Plant was approx 10 -12cm (1 foot) at the transition to flower. Thus it appears to have grown about 400-600% during the stretch.
Internodal spacing is marked. Approximately 30cm between nodes.

Terpenes and resins are still not adequate to provide assessment. However, the plant odour is foul and unique.

Note: Thank god I left it in a 1 gal container. It likely would have exceeded my size limit.
Yes I could super crop, however, I wanted to see the plant develop naturally for fun.

This run is merely to propagate the genetics and have a little fun.

Cheers.
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Good luck! I had one I flowered for 120 + days and finally pulled the plug. You planning on leaving it in the 1 gallon threw flower?
 
Dabbie McDoob

Dabbie McDoob

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Yes, I will be leaving it in the 1 gal container throughout.
I actually had to put it in 11/13 to even trigger flower. I will be trying 10/14 or 8/16 if it just keeps developing as you mentioned.

Did your landrace reach a terminal bud development point or you just decided that was it?
 
farmingfisherman

farmingfisherman

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Dabbie McDoob said:
Yes, I will be leaving it in the 1 gal container throughout.
I actually had to put it in 11/13 to even trigger flower. I will be trying 10/14 or 8/16 if it just keeps developing as you mentioned.

Did your landrace reach a terminal bud development point or you just decided that was it?
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Kept going and going. In the end I was running 10/14 Strangest plant I've grown to date. 3 gallon pot. Good up lifting high that isn't speedy. Smells of a wooded cedar fuel mix. Buds are fluffy and almost entirely smokeable. PS In the end I pulled it. The plant was drinking like crazy and once it got difficult to keep up I gave her the long goodnight. Energy wise she is the most expensive plant i've ever grown. If I ever tried to sell her I would have to sell it by volume and at a hefty price because of how long she took. This is her dried and what I consider ready to smoke. She packs a very focused punch. Can't wait to remodel our house with her around. :weed:

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piratebug

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The indigenous Maroons in the mountains of Jamaica call her "long time weed", (but that saying only came about in the late 1930(s), its accredited to the Rastafarian people, but the Maroons have also used it for that long too), because to honestly let her finish out properly, it takes anywhere from 20 to 24 weeks! And flowering only begins when the sun shines for only 11:35 to 11:45 hours a day, so the best flowering time for the shortest finish is 11:10/12:50 without risk of causing a reveg! And shorter light-on flowering times don't help because Jamaica has naturally short sunlight times even in the summer months! So, in other words, cannabis plants that have evolved in the Jamaica region only have a 30 to 35 minute difference from when the plant will veg or flower!
 
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T macc

T macc

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I would get her into a 3 gallon pot after stretch. IME, a long flowering sativa's health will start to diminish after 9 weeks or so in a 1 gallon pot
 
Kalebaiden

Kalebaiden

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Dabbie McDoob said:
Ladies and gentlemen,

Background: My friend traveled to Jamaica and managed to bring back 50 seeds from the Blue Mountains. The rastafarian showed the tour an area where "ganja" grows wild. Tourists were encouraged to take "samples" to which my friend obliged. Near the end of the tour the guide stated that the plants were known by locals as lambsbread due to it's odor. This was good news to me.

Based off my initial analysis of the 30 or so specimens that survived germination, this female was allowed to enter the champagne room.
Plant was approx 10 -12cm (1 foot) at the transition to flower. Thus it appears to have grown about 400-600% during the stretch.
Internodal spacing is marked. Approximately 30cm between nodes.

Terpenes and resins are still not adequate to provide assessment. However, the plant odour is foul and unique.

Note: Thank god I left it in a 1 gal container. It likely would have exceeded my size limit.
Yes I could super crop, however, I wanted to see the plant develop naturally for fun.

This run is merely to propagate the genetics and have a little fun.

Cheers.
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That is gorgeous perfection right there.
 
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916Grower420

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Friend of mine also gave me some seeds from Jamaica. Buds had purple in them. Crossed the seeds with GSC and the result was buds that looked like chocolatope and smelled like wine.
 
Dabbie McDoob

Dabbie McDoob

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Update from today Week 6 almost over.
Slight phosphorus deficiency occurred but was remedied in about 24hrs with a bit of liquid bat guano. Plants resumed flowering to no detriment.
I top dressed w/ oyster shell, Green power bloom and gypsum.

Strain observations.
Buds. Bud sights appear very large..I was very surprised about the nodal development as typically in my experience heavy sativas make fluffly buds.
Terpenes are lemon and gasey notes.

Pollination. Pollenation was successful and a number of bud sites have seeds developing. I verified this w/ my microscope and they are developing properly. I am happy as this was a one and done situation. No backups lol.

I think this will run atleast 12 weeks. I will update then.
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Charsiguy420

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Nice grow man. I am curious if it is really true landrace or heavy sativa leaning plant? I have one growing in dwc, flipped it on 8th august and still no calyx development. Plant was taken from a year old clone of a clone. I was initially running 11:15/12:45 light/dark period but switched it to 10/14. When did you first start seeing calyxes?
 
Dabbie McDoob

Dabbie McDoob

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Charsiguy420 said:
Nice grow man. I am curious if it is really true landrace or heavy sativa leaning plant? I have one growing in dwc, flipped it on 8th august and still no calyx development. Plant was taken from a year old clone of a clone. I was initially running 11:15/12:45 light/dark period but switched it to 10/14. When did you first start seeing calyxes?
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I completely agree. I was talking to a few other people online and due to so many different strains being brought to the island and open pollination happening. The true land race strains are getting bred out.
I didn't see any action until It was in 10/14 for the first 2 weeks. I then put it with the rest of my flowering females in 12/12 and it's doing fine.
Great observation @Charisguy420
 
Dabbie McDoob

Dabbie McDoob

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Update Finished Week 8 flower

Sad news first. Clearly not a landrace as hoped. Definately solid genetics with clear landrace features.

Now the good news. Buds are fat AF. Frosty AF.
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Trichomes still have a way to go. I think another 2-3 weeks min.
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Terpes are predominantly piney with a gasey finish.

Pumped to smoke these buds
 
ilovetoskiatalta

ilovetoskiatalta

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piratebug said:
The indigenous Maroons in the mountains of Jamaica call her "long time weed", (but that saying only came about in the late 1930(s), its accredited to the Rastafarian people, but the Maroons have also used it for that long too), because to honestly let her finish out properly, it takes anywhere from 20 to 24 weeks! And flowering only begins when the sun shines for only 11:35 to 11:45 hours a day, so the best flowering time for the shortest finish is 11:10/12:50 without risk of causing a reveg! And shorter light-on flowering times don't help because Jamaica has naturally short sunlight times even in the summer months! So, in other words, cannabis plants that have evolved in the Jamaica region only have a 30 to 35 minute difference from when the plant will veg or flower!
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This is the first time in years I have heard the term "long time weed". I have old seeds gifted to me and I tried germinating them and they did not so they have sat in the "seed bin" :sleep:
 
Dabbie McDoob

Dabbie McDoob

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Mid week 11 Plant is ready. It has transitioned to the harvest/drying tent for 24hrs darkness and harvest
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Some close ups of the plant. She stopped eating a few weeks ago.
I decided to pull the plant as the amber trichchomes were starting to accelerate and bud swelling was diminishing.
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I will post the weight and smoke report in a few weeks.
I always shoot for 10-14 days min.
Terpenes at harvest still very gasey, lemon with a dank finish.
Resin production was above average, yet still no Kush/Indica dom.

I predict 2-3oz.

See ya all soon!
 
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Charsiguy420

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Congrats man! Those buds are screaming to be smoked. :weed:
If you got spare time, hop on to my grow for a second and help me with what I am doing wrong. I can't tame her..:wall:

Heirloom sativa, whats wrong with my plant?

Hello everyone I have plant in dwc reservoir that was healthy until i flipped it to flower. Ever since it's just been a mountain of problems. Strain: Bagseed heirloom sativa (possibly from kenya) Flowering time: 3-4months from flip its closer to 4-5months after flip sorry i was high Plant max...
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Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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Looks like purple skunk, it's all over Jamaica. I brought back some seeds a long time ago and grew them out and looked identical, but mine had a bit more fruity/fuel smell, with just a hint of lemon. Dank, dank smoke though, I miss it. Had the same purple striations up the trich stalks too, and purple striped calyx's, so I'm guessing it's the same thing (they breed true in JA).

One of those rare strains that I could smoke all day and keep going, but at night it put me out.
 
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